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I'm not putting any marbles in this basket, but there exists a world where Abner Uribe is a big piece of our bullpen this year. I believe he would qualify as overlooked heading into the year.
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Dang, not at all what I said. I was speaking in generalities. I try to offer an olive branch and it still gets turned on me. I am not sure you and I speak the same language unfortunately. Lot of lost in translation going on. All good man, take care.
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This is going to shock you ... but I'm 100% on board with Dejong AND if he ends up signing elsewhere for a fair contract I would stand with you in disagreement. I think we could use a vet on that side with a high enough offensive floor, Dejong seems to fit us right now really well. Generally speaking re: our bickering ... it isn't about who is right and wrong and who is the better/worse fan ... it is about furthering conversation. I say all of this almost as a 'thank you' for the DeJong suggestion, I have been hoping for a specific suggestion from you ... if you have more specific moves or people you want the Brewers to look at or if you have specific examples of guys they didn't move on in years past (that we know they could have) that have caused you to sour your outlook .. I genuinely want to hear them. I'm here to discuss Brewers baseball and learn, both good and bad. Personally, I just don't have much time for empty convo or the small talk around it. I think DeJong is a great fit.
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Respectfully, the fact that there are so many negative grades on the off season from posters here and the fact no one else is getting heat for those opinions should give you pause on how you participate on these boards and why you are responded to differently. Differing opinions are welcome, negative opinions are welcome. Why is it different for you? If I responded to every one of your posts with the exact same GIF of a guy beating a dead horse with a stick... It wouldn't take long before you called me a troll. But that's exactly what your account is becoming. Clicking on your profile and looking at your post history... 95% of your posts in the last two months have been the exact same thing. Brewers FO isn't trying, Mark A is cheap, the fan base is delusional. Regardless of the topic at hand. We've locked two threads in the last two weeks+ because of this. Self reflect.
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We are going to have this same convo, huh? Can we just start a thread dedicated to a certain poster so we don't have to do this in every conversation moving forward?
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Thanks for all of this work and effort. I am also a bit perplexed at the overall drop. We didn't have Devin for half the year, so our bullpen numbers from last season include that. Moving from Rea -> Cortes is also a full 1 win bump. A healthy Mitchell, a healthy Yelich (knock on wood both) ... I am also very bullish that the Hoskins/Black combo will greatly outperform the Hoskins/Bauers combo from last year. I am not mad at a projected step back, but the tumble that is predicted doesn't compute for me.
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I saw this on Twitter. It's days leading the division since 2020.
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194 responses to this thread and 74 of them are from one person. Maybe we should consider locking and deleting this one and moving on with our lives lol. Go Crew.
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The Brewers must not have loved the medicals? Miley said he wanted to stay here and it did seem to make sense for us, especially on a MiLB deal :(
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Ok! Now finally some answers. After repeatedly asking you to provide one solution you finally come through and say we need the guy who gave Deshaun Watson his contract, arguably the worst contract in the history of professional sports.
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A lot of folks are openly critical about many aspects of the Brewers org. Have you ever visited a game thread? There's more negative than positive in those threads. The reason you are being fought against by the entire message board right now is because you STILL have yet to present a single fact or solution to anything you are saying. You are crossing your arms and saying "I don't like it and you can't make me" and all anyone has asked you repeatedly is to provide any kind of proof that the Brewers FO doesn't have the Brewers best interest in mind. One thing. Provide one thing.
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Frelick
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Ok! We are getting closer. You are not upset at lack of spending, you are not upset at their lack of trades in volume... you are upset that the Brewers have not traded from organizational depth to obtain future MVPs (Contreras withstanding obviously, yes?) and that is the reason why they are gaslighting us by telling us they are trying to compete for championships. This is actually a pretty good idea. Trade from the minors to get future MVPs on our team. Can you find any players from our current minor league depth you would trade and which soon to be MVPs you would target?
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Absolutely. That's why I'm excited to hear your thoughts. I guess I also needed to put some of that response in blue. You have said multiple times in other threads that you know Milwaukee can't spend the money of bigger markets, so we know that isn't your issue. You've mentioned trading from organizational depth to bolster the roster and when it was mentioned the Brewers do it repeatedly your response was that they are trading them at the wrong time with disadvantageous value and you have said you are tired of this happening year after year. So that means we are expecting it to happen again this year? I would love to hear which pieces of our organization you would trade today and to whom and for what if you have any ideas? Being a 20/20 vision fan of the past is not a great trait but if you can have the vision for the future you can be an asset to the team! What are your thoughts?
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You're timing is just so strange man.. We are not even 2 months removed from Matt Arnold being named MLBs Executive of the year. They looked around all of baseball and pointed at Milwaukee and said "no one is doing it better than that guy" ... How lucky are we as a fan base that we have the Executive of the year AND one of our fans on the message boards can do the job better... Golden age of Brewers baseball.
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We traded Wiemer+ for Montas. We did exactly what you are saying we didn't do. What are you talking about? Did you think Crochet was available for that price?
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I am realizing more and more as I read these threads that there are a lot of Brewers fans who believe if the Brewers profit $10mil dollars in a season that Mark Attanasio has an extra $10mil in his pocket.
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Your stance of "we are being gaslit by the organization" can only be directed at salary, because you are otherwise telling us you have direct knowledge of the conversations we are and are not having with other teams regarding trades. Do you work for the Brewers front office? Because if not "basically refuse to make a significant move by using (prospects)" is misguided with no basis of proof.
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My guy you are a fan of the wrong team. I agree with you our chances of winning the world series are slim... but how many teams have a "better than slim" chance? 6? 8? We are in the majority and we are one of the best of those remaining. If you want to cheer for a team that has a lot of money, why don't you do that? Everything you are posting right now is all just getting back to the fact you wish we could spend or overpay with assets to "make an attempt". I'm not mad at you man, but the Cubs should be your team here in the Midwest. They have the luxury of overpaying for their on field product. We don't.
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So you went into last season having lost Woodruff and Burnes + all of the unknowns with our roster + having a new manager + making "no effort" to acquire anyone to move the needle ... and you still had such high expectations that our team UNDERPERFORMED to your liking and left you disappointed?
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With all due respect I think this is kind of a short sighted view on how to field a competitive team from our position. Because of multiple factors, we can't afford to give the big FA the $$ it would take to get them here so we have to operate differently. We are a ground up organization as opposed to a top down one. Do we not consider large investments into our foreign academy/structure a 'meaningful' move? The upgrades to the spring training facility? The continual promotions in the FO to avoid our guys getting poached? So when the Brewers have a good year and are in the green and fans say "invest in the team!!" ... I am happy the team is looking at that comment from a much bigger picture than just "go sign a name"; there could be a really good argument that the few times we have signed a guy "to make a meaningful move" in the last few decades at an attempt to be competitive... it has not produced results any better than when we have spent our capital elsewhere to make the organization as a whole better.
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Two things about that.. 1) If only we had spent the money to go get the best closer in baseball last year so we could have closed out the Mets we could have made a run at it, right? 2) What is your number to be satisfied? If a big payroll is what you need to feel like we are trying ... is that number $130? $150? Top 10 in the league? Do you think an extra $20mil/yr will get us over the hump? We gave Hoskins $17 last year and he arguably made us worse. To be safe we probably need to sign 3 or 4 of these $15-20mill guys to make sure one of them plays up the money, no?
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I guess I just don't know what we are wanting them to do? We have the 6th most wins in MLB over the last 5 years ... do fans want them to add $80million/yr to payroll? Or do they think an extra $7mil for a 1WAR 3B is going to win us a world series?
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Do we think we spend less of the working budget allotment each year compared to other teams re: player pay? Or are we just expecting Mark to dip into his pockets to make a personal contribution on top of that budget for that extra few % chance ... and if he does that and the Brewers over perform does he get the extra money he spent returned in full or does the extra generated revenue get split amongst the other owners, etc like normal profit/loss? Everyone that loses their minds over "Mark is cheap! He can spend more!" .. I would love to hear how much money they think it costs to run the Brewers each year. We see payroll and compare it to others then get upset. Genuine questions.
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The statue of Uecker outside the stadium is awesome. But the statue of him in the Uecker seats inside the stadium is now my favorite statue of all time and truly I could see myself getting emotional when I see it next and take it in. It used to be just a funny tip of the cap to our beloved announcer. Now it is just the greatest Brewer of all time watching his favorite team from his favorite spot, forever.
