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2005 2006 2007 = 3 years of minors not actual time in the minors.

Yes and the Bucks didn't need to select Maker they could have went with either Furkan Korkmaz or Timothe Luwawu both who are 6-7. Kormaz is more refined in shooting the 3 but both are as much of a project as Maker is. Both Korkmaz and Luwawu are players that would fit into what the Bucks are trying to do.

I would have liked to have gotten Furkan Korkmaz he has a fairly decent 3pt shot. If the Bucks could have traded up to get him that would have been best but I don't think that was an option. I would have tried to trade with the Celtics for 16 and 23. Taking Either Furkan Korkmaz or Malik Beasley at 16 and then at 23 taking Zizic. While I like Vaughn I am not sure he becomes the 3pt threat everyone thinks he is going to become. I hope I am wrong but I just don't see him becoming that 3pt threat that the Bucks need.

If you are going to be evaluating a player based on stats in the minors then you need to take that information and comb through them thoroughly. You need to look at where the player is playing. A hitter in Brevard is going to have troubles with hitting for power and a pitcher in Colorado Springs is going to have problems giving up extra base hits that are normally outs in other AAA parks. Another thing about stats is that it only tells about 1/3 of the story of the player. Scouting reports and what the player is working on in the minors tells the rest of the story. To me Medeiros has a ceiling of a top of the rotation pitcher will he ever make that ceiling probably not but he does have a high ceiling though his floor is really low. This is the problem with drafting based on potential if you hit you have a hall of fame type player and if you miss you have someone that doesn't even contribute to your team or does so only at a fraction of what they could have been. The same thing with Coulter, Taylor, Gatewood, Clark and Harrison. All of them could be All Star caliber players or they could be major league regulars. The nice thing about all of these upside players is that they are all extremely young still. Only Taylor and Coulter are 22 the rest are either 20 or younger. I am not going to get all that concerned over these players until they reach the age of 26. If they haven't figured it out by then then I will be concerned and call them busts but not until then. All of these players have a lot of ceiling left in them and it is going to take time for them to mature into the players they will become. Not every player is going to be a Trout or Harper and rise through the minors quickly. Even players like Weeks and Braun took time to reach the majors. It took Weeks three years before he made it to the majors and that was probably a year to early for him. He should have been in the minors for one more year and the Brewers should have just stayed with Spivey until Weeks was fully ready. Prince took 4 years to make it to the majors and Braun took 3 years. I don't believe any of the players the Brewers have in the minors now are as advanced as Prince, Weeks, or Braun but they do have the ceiling that these players had when they were coming up in the minors. The biggest difference is that the floor of Weeks, Prince, and Braun was not as low as the players currently in the Brewers minor league system. As for Ray I am going to say this again he is very similar to Jackie Bradley Jr. and when he was drafted I wasn't all that high on him and I thought along with my friend who is a scout that Bradley wouldn't make it as a CF in the majors. Well we were wrong and it looks as though Bradley is playing a passable CF for the Red Sox. I firmly believe that Ray's ceiling is that of Bradley which is an every day starting CF.

My problem with the Bucks pick is not the player they took but who they didn't take. The Bucks didn't get an outside shooter that they desperately needed. I see what the Bucks are trying to do they are trying to get an athletic team that has the height advantage. If the Bucks are going more with a run and gun style of offense then this pick makes sense. The Bucks really needed to get a player who can shoot the three and they didn't get that in the draft. Maybe the Bucks tried to trade down in the draft but couldn't find a taker the Celtics had a difficult time finding someone to take the #3 spot. With only the 76ers giving them a serious offer and it looks like that offer wasn't enough for them to trade the #3 spot. I don't think the Bucks are going to be able to trade Monroe and he is going to be someone who comes off the bench or is a rotation piece when Parker and Giannis are not playing. I like Monroe but his offensive skills slows the team down which means you need a 3pt shooter which the Bucks do not have currently. The Bucks needed a 3pt shooter if they are going to continue with the run and gun offense with Monroe in it. Since the Bucks did not get a 3pt shooter I am not sure where Monroe fits on the roster anymore. Is he a bench guy that comes in when Parker and Giannis and if he is then the Bucks need that 3pt shooter and I am not sure the Bucks have that player on their roster right now.

Wow Stone goes in the 2nd round yeah he is going to regret not staying at least another year in college.

By my eye, Hill has been a lot better in the infield this year than Parra was in the outfield last year. I'm not able to look it up at the moment, but weren't defensive metrics down on Parra's work the past few years? Yes the advanced stats showed that he was worse but his history of being an above average to an elite defensive player in the OF is what separates his value from Hill's and makes it that much more. Plus even with Hill's play so far he isn't even coming close to the value that Parra was providing offensively last year. Hill's value is more along the lines of Broxton (low point) or even Krod (high point) than it is of Parra's. Though the Orioles over paid for Parra last year and gave up too much to get Parra from the Brewers.

Not really thrilled with this pick. Hopefully the Bucks can trade up into the 20's and get a guard.

Not even close. Parra had a good season last year and was considered an above average to elite defensively in the OF. Hill is nowhere close in value that Parra had last year.

The Bucks see Middleton as an untouchable player along with Parker and Giannis. The Bucks have already turned down a first round pick for Middleton from Boston. Not sure if it was #3 or one of their many first round picks but the Bucks have told the Celtics Middleton is not available along with Parker and Giannis. The Celtics also asked for Parker I think that would have been the #3 pick going to the Bucks then.

In a Hill trade you are looking at a best case scenario where you get a player back like what the Brewers recently got for Krod or the trade last year of Broxton. The Brewers are going to get a wildcard who is in the low minors. There are plenty of teams that will be looking to get Hill. The Mets could be a team that takes a chance on Hill someone like Patrick Mazeika or best case scenario David Thompson make sense here. Thompson is probably a stretch and Mazeika is more likely in a Hill trade. I still don't see the Royals as a fit but if they were Ramon Torres or Brandon Downes are possible.

How about trading with the Celtics for 16 and 23 or 31 and then taking Furkan Korkmaz and Diamond Stone (at 23) or Stephen Zimmerman (at 31)? That gives the Bucks a big who can run but will need to work on his defense he wouldn't be a bad player coming off of the bench as he learns to play defense. I think Korkmaz could be a Giannis type where he becomes better as he matures. He already has a good 3pt shot all he needs to learn now is how to drive to the basket another player who you could team up with Vaughn. He could also play the point as he is a very good passer but he needs to add weight if he is going to be a starter at SG.

I don't think the Bucks need a PG as I believe Ennis is the PG that the Bucks are looking for. While he may not be the best defender in the league at PG I believe he is a definite match with what the Bucks have been trying to do on offense. Not to mention he wasn't that bad of a shooter in college. It also looks like Stone has fallen a lot. There is also talk of him not even being drafted in the 1st round he maybe a 2nd round pick. If Stone falls to the 20's do you trade one of the 2nd round picks to take him? There has been concerns with his interviews along with some background issues that are scaring some teams away. Valentine is another player who has been falling due to an issue with his knee. He is another player that could be had in the later part of the draft around the 18-25 range. I am not sure Poeltl will be there when the Bucks pick at 10. From what I have gathered it will be either Poeltl or Ellenson available at #10. If Poeltl and Ellenson are not available at 10 who are the Bucks going to pick? I wonder if the Celtics would trade their 2 first round picks plus a player to even out the salary for Monroe, #10, and both of the 2nd round picks? If the Bucks could do that Jamal Murray would have to be the pick at #3 and then Stone at 16?

This is 100% false now as Wheeler is experiencing discomfort in his elbow. What does that mean it means his value is tanking faster than some really good pun insert here. Even before the news today about Wheeler's elbow discomfort his value wasn't as high as some here have been making it out to be. Wheeler has barely even pitched yet this year and he may not even pitch this year. You really think a player who could be out of baseball for another year is going to have more value than Braun? If Wheeler needs surgery again he will definitely be off of the top 100 even the top 200 he would be off. His value if he needs more time this year or needs surgery again means he will have negative value for the Mets. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/zack-wheeler-experiences-soreness-surgically-repaired-elbow-article-1.2682567

Not really racist at all. It is a fact that people from Cuba come from a society that their lives are completely dictated by the government. I believe Livan Hernandez said he had a bit of trouble adjusting to the culture here in the US compared to the culture in Cuba. It is no surprise that a lot of the Cuban players have struggled after a year it is an adjustment going from living in Cuba to living in the US or even in any other country. Unless that country is similar to the one the player is leaving there is going to be a culture change that the player is going to have to go through. The same is true for American born players if you go from nothing and then all of a sudden you have this large signing bonus it is similar to a player coming from Cuba and adjusting to life in the US. All of this will have an impact on how a player performs to deny that it doesn't have an impact is just ignoring the issue.

The Brewers desperately need to get out of Colorado Springs it is nearly impossible to evaluate pitching there hitting is also nearly impossible to evaluate also.

Well even cutting it to 150 and then Ramos is the leader at catcher and he only needs 1 PA to become qualified so it is not really at that disingenuous at all. Even at 100 PA Lucroy is still top 3 with Chris Herrmann who has never had an OPS as high as he has now in the majors who will more than likely come back down to his .600-.700 OPS range. The point still remains a catcher at an .800 OPS doesn't come on the market all that often if ever. The price for Lucroy will be high and the Brewers will get at least one elite prospect and possibly two.

Supposed to be 119 this weekend in Phoenix. Nope still don't miss the Wisconsin winters.

I still think the Red Sox will be the team that gets Lucroy. A Devers and Espinoza trade would be at about what the price for Lucroy is at right now. Catchers that put up a wRC+ of 134 do not grow on trees and Lucroy is putting up MVP type numbers right now at the catcher position. If you want to look at OPS Lucroy is putting up an OPS of .894 this is an elite OPS for a catcher. The only other catcher with qualifying PA who has an OPS greater than .800 is Salvador Perez at .847. Hypothetically if Buster Posey was on the market and had the same contract as Lucroy what would he demand on the trade market? Remember Posey is only 1-year younger than Lucroy also.

I think the coach needs to be involved with the draft and player acquisitions it is the coach who is coaching the team so they do need to have some input on the players being acquired. Jason Kidd has had a little bit too much of an influence on who they are targeting though. I would agree with Kidd needing less of an input but he does need to be involved on who is being added to the team. Ultimately though the GM needs to be the one making the final decision on who the team acquires.

What happens if the runner is hit by a ball that ricochets off the bag and the runner is in foul territory. The base runner is not out since they were in foul territory but is the play just dead and is counted as a foul ball or does the batter get rewarded the base and the runner has to go back to the base they were on. For example if a ball hits the third base bag and then ricochets back and hits the runner in foul territory.

It is a very risky strategy to employ. You basically have to hit on the players you draft. The risk of not hitting on those players will set you back at least 4-years or more in your minor league system. If you are losing two picks in the first round of the next two drafts you are losing a lot of signing pool money. You would almost be guaranteed to have the lowest amount of money to sign players for the next two years. Which means you are probably going to be drafting nothing but college seniors or slot value players. If you are going to employ this strategy it would be best to go all out and sign restricted FA in the next two off seasons. Since your signing pool is going to be extremely low anyways it is probably just best to gamble everything at that time and go "all in". I don't see many teams doing this maybe a big market team will do this if they wan't to super jump start their rebuilding process but the risk of this not paying off would be franchise crippling even to a big market team. The big market team wouldn't be crippled for as long as a small market team would be but it would still hurt.

Unlikely to happen. This is the same as when Estrada was horrible the last year he was with the Brewers there were plenty of people on here who said the exact same thing. There were even calls to DFA Estrada at some point in the season. I am glad Melvin didn't do that as Estrada turned into Lind which turned into three young pitchers. Peralta will still have some trade value at the end of this season how much will depend on the market this off season. I could see another Estrada type of a trade in the off season but I do not see Peralta being released his salary will be minimal and won't be a hindrance to the Brewers. There really isn't anyone that Peralta will be blocking in AAA or AA either well not until at least June. Garza if he doesn't play well this year would be more likely to be released than Peralta and I only put that at about a 10% chance of happening.

For 1 1/2 years of a catcher playing at an All-Star level and a team trying to trade for Lucroy are going to have to give up at least 2 A type prospects. Anything less and the Brewers are losing on the deal by a lot. The team that is acquiring Lucroy is getting 1 1/2 years at a very small salary plus they are getting a compensation pick when Lucroy leaves the following year. So the team acquiring Lucroy is getting more than just 1 1/2 years of an All-Star level of play at catcher. Just for a 1/2 of a season for Lucroy would be Devers + B-/C type prospect. The market right now for hitters no matter the position is in favor of the seller as the buyer is going to have to pay a premium in order to get a player they want. The Rays are not going to be buyers in this market so you can cross them off the list. The Rangers are also not going to trade for Lucroy unless they can get him for Brinson and a lower level prospect. The Dodgers also don't make any sense at all for a Lucroy trade. They already have their catcher for the next few years in Barnes and Grandal. I don't see the Dodgers giving up on Grandal this early. Though Braun to the Dodgers does make sense here and depending on how much the Brewers pick up salary wise will determine the type of prospects the Brewers will get in return.

With the year Lucroy is having if a team wants him then it is going to cost a lot of prospects. Red Sox are the most likely trade partner that have the pieces to make a trade happen. Devers, Espinoza, Ockimey, and Ball should be enough for Lucroy. After the Red Sox I don't see a team that has enough prospects to get a deal done. Maybe if the Nationals would trade Giolito and another piece then maybe but otherwise I don't see a fit. The Rangers have the pieces but I don't see them as an interested party.