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  1. His inclusion on the 40-man was more of that oddity of his being drafted, signed, failed physical, and resigned. Rather than expectations of moving up quickly. He has a high ceiling, but needs to show more control to move up quickly. edited- added link
  2. With all due respect, you have no idea how old most of us are on this board. And calling people "pups" negates your "Nothing against" comment. (Of course, old dog != new tricks is the recourse to that) Just because certain practices worked with certain individuals in the past, doesn't mean that is the way it should work on the future. Looking at the number of pitching prospects that the Brewers have lost through injury is plenty of argument to revisit how people are handled. It has nothing to do with toughness or mental ability. For every Moose Haas, there is a CC Sabathia. Every generation has its ironmen, and its tin-foil men. Personally, I'm very glad that the Brewers are being proactive with Peterson in investigating how best to handle pitching prospects, because its an area of huge need. The Brewers have been terrible at if for many years. For the most part, the Brewers have been very patient with most of their prospects (Odorizzi), but pushing some when it "clicks" with an individual (Gallardo). Seeing how they have promoted pitchers in the Melvin era, I can't generally disagree with how they have handled their pitchers. But unfortunately, they still have a high incident of injury.
  3. Dare I say the guys in my generation were tougher mentally and physically (Haas threw 192 innings combined as a 20 year old)? I wonder if anyone has gone back to look at how many arms were blown out in "those days", leaving us with just the examples of those that actually succeeded? I bet there was a higher injury rate, yet it didn't matter as much, since they were cheap to replace. I would think that: 1) League expansion: making the talent spread out further throughout the league. 2) Advancement of scouting: making it harder for people to slip through the cracks in the draft 3) High salaries: blow out a few of your quality arms, makes people back off pushing everyone. contribute to the system we have now instead of the 1970s. Not their mental/physical toughness. In fact, I would guarantee players are more physically tuned then those of the 1970s. Without looking, I would wager a bet that you could find a Manny Parra-like pitcher from the 1970s. Comparing him to Moose Haas is hardly fair.
  4. Yeah, ever since Peterson was hired as the pitching coach, its been assumed Mulder will sign a MiLB deal with the Brewers, since the two have a good working history.
  5. I have a feeling that anyone like that signed is going to have to be at the minimum salary level. Good or bad (see last year), we tend to fill those spots with young, cheap talent. And while it didn't work out too well last year (bad for Brad, good for Casey), that is what we are stuck doing with our salary situation.
  6. Wouldn't a trade be pending physicals also? I thought Mulder would be signed to a MiLB contract, thus not needing a 40-man spot for now.
  7. Sounds like Blyleven is now up for the Cow Milking Hall of Fame... (sorry no link)
  8. Of course the Cubs kicked the goat out and have had horrible luck ever since! http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif
  9. I'm not surprised on Arnett over Odorizzi. Its only a difference of B to B-... Plus they had similar numbers at the same level last year, while Arnett was basically throwing FBs only. Arnett will probably also be pushed faster due to his college experience. I'm surprised at his comments about Schafer. I guess he will have to prove himself at AA before he gets any credibility.
  10. I'm hoping he is a Cub killer. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif
  11. Of course he likely will not be one of the 7 best to break camp, so this is a case of a pitcher who is better likely having to start in AAA. Lofgren has to either be on the 25-man, or returned to the Indians, since he was a Rule 5 selection. I think he meant that Lofgren will remain on the 25-man despite not being on of the 7 best.
  12. Yeah! He is in a contract year... http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif
  13. I think the team has to actually purchase the insurance for individual players. More often than not, they don't purchase it. I doubt Riske was covered, but am only speculating.
  14. Yes, very nice post. The Brewers right now have a good fan base and its imperative that they keep it strong. That's the only way to keep our revenues in the middle, which is the low end of making the WS. I'm curious, how did we match up with the Twins in revenue? I think this also makes a strong statement for the future need of a salary cap/revenue sharing/whatever to balance the large and the small. Otherwise, the low end of the pack has no chance...
  15. Find me all the teams that has four starting pitchers that project to have a 4.25 ERA or better. Completely agree. That's why I went from ERA to $$ figures in my example. Because in your example, I don't think you can get two 4.25ERA SPs for the same cost as one 3.75... maybe, maybe not. If you look at Wolf for $10M vs two $5M pitchers SPs: I'd argue that many teams wouldn't upgrade their rotation by adding two $5M SPs. Sounds like Bush may get $5M this year in arby? Looper got $4.75M last year? RP Lyons just got $5M/yr.
  16. Why should a team pay an exponentially higher salary for a 3.75 pitcher when two 4.25 ERA pitchers can be gotten for less money and give the same overall upgrade? When the two 4.25 ERA pitchers don't provide an upgrade to what you currently have. Or when the 3.75 ERA pitcher will sign with you and the two 4.25 ERA guys won't. I know you are thinking that two 4.25 ERA pitchers would upgrade the Brewers (and I agree), but I'm providing an answer to the question. Plus, assuming you are talking about Wolf ($10M) vs two (lets change this to $5M) SPs. I doubt two $5 SPs will upgrade our current pitching staff. $5million per pitcher will get you Looper or Lyons (evidently).
  17. Good to hear. Thanks for the update
  18. I fully expected Braddock to start in AAA anyway, so I don't think this has any RP/SP ramifications. There is a higher chance Lofgren gets sent back after ST than actually keeping him. I'm still hoping Narveson competes for the 5th SP with Bush. Odd man out is the long man in pen. Suppan traded for ? DiFelice will be non-tendered. I don't think the 60-day DL is in effect during the offseason. I think you have to wait until ST? But what if we took Riske off the 40 man? Who in their right mind would claim him? And if they did Huzzah!
  19. Butler? Really? He is out best young pitching depth at AAA. Right now, he has to be first choice call-up for SP from AAA. I would cut Periard off the 40-man before Butler (not that I want too). Too bad Scarpetta had that draft/injury issue as he is holding one spot hostage right now that someone at his level normally wouldn't. Hopefully we can use Dillard/Smith/Aguilar as trade add-ins in the near future. I like Dillard, but Milwaukee brass sure doesn't seem to. Aguilar still seems a ways off, but with promise. Smith did well last year, but nothing special. You could probably add one of Iribarren/Heether to the possible trade add-in possibilities also.
  20. I'm assuming we didn't lose anyone since no one mentioned it? Sounds like our BP might be pretty crowded this year! Options are a good thing.
  21. How many World Series titles have the Twins won with this approach? Two more lately than the Brewers (1987 & 1991 - ignoring 1924 right now). Plus Central division titles in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2009! We compare far closer to the Twins than the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, or Dodgers. They are an excellent model for any small revenue team to follow. They haven't won the WS in quite a while, but making the playoffs consistently is far more than the Brewers have done in a long time. It would be nice if the Brewers were consistently above .500.
  22. Making trades ... for young pitchers. Somehow, I think that is easier to say than do. I'm sure if Melvin would do this if he can. I'm sure he is looking at those avenues also (like Hart for Maine) I completely agree that we need to follow the Twins model of franchise building, but face facts. We have a hole in our pitching prospects that needs to be filled (this is where Jones/Rogers/Jeffress was supposed to step in). As someone else pointed out, the Twins do sign FAs to fill holes. If we don't sign some FAs this year, our pitching is going to bring us down yet again. Melvin & Co. have built a competitive environment. Fans expect them to win. Players expect to win. Not doing anything starts undoing those expectations. Support drops back to Selig levels and we get set back again. I think Wolf was a good signing. He was definitely needed this year. I just hope we don't sign anymore long term contracts for FA pitchers. Look for 1 year contracts for the second SP or a trade.
  23. Yeah, Chris Cody surprised me a bit. I would think someone could use him as a LOOGY for a year. MJ is a possibility. I could see someone giving him a shot and giving him back to Milwaukee if he doesn't handle ST well. I agree Katin could be a candidate for your 4th/5th OF.
  24. Coach, How is Angel's hand (thumb?)? Fully healed now? Hopefully he can go into ST at fully healthy and show what he can do!
  25. I didn't realize that Dillard had an option left. I thought he used the last one up last year... With so many options at A ball, who will skip to A+ and who will remain at R+? Looks like Arnett, Odorizzi, Heckathorn, Bucci, Howell, Lasker, Seidel and Krestalude are all aiming at A-ball... I suppose if they keep up the tandem pitching there it would work...
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