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Very below average. Just had a really good contact season in 2022. Definitely an outlier. Type of deal for injury depth as Opening day approaches. You hope he doesn't see any ML time for the Brewers.

The part about 2025 payroll commitments does need to consider the rare Accepts a QO payroll addition. Burnes is 100pct no concerns. Adames though? And now say Hoskins if he did opt out after a 4+war top 20MVP season. It used to be Woodruff now insert Hoskins. Kinda gotta earmark some salary off to the side just in case as the season progresses or 1 or more is traded. We remember the horrible FA/trade outcomes but there was the good year by Renfroe. Good year by Wong. Grandal. Pre-2020 Cain. Those 1st 2 seasons paid his contract until those last seasons took money back. Hoskins is on the good side of things for the 2yr contract. Will be 31&32 for the 2 seasons. Above league average via Savant in 2022 in the categories that you want. Far more consistent than Winker ever was yearly. The contract would have looked really bad had it gone 4 years or more. The gamble he'd be good in 2024 returning from his ACL and instead he's no longer the player he was? Wow doubling down with the Yelich contract extension. The opt out just may be the reason Hopkins agreed to a 2yr deal for 34M with Milw. Versus say signing a 1 or 2yr deal with another team. The kind of things that when Milw doesn't sign with a FA it is reasonable it's not always just money offered. We'll get an update here on the contract I imagine before the weekend so today or during day Friday. Is a holdup due to 40man? Where there needs to be a corresponding move so they can't finish the signing til that's squared away?

It is the NL East. Miami/NY/Atl/Was. While 2 are neutral I believe, 2 are more difficult. Titanrick said with you but apparently, we are in the minority. It scares me to think we will lose Burnes for nothing more than a comp pick compared to what we could have landed by trading him. And it seems like a lesson was learned in the Hader trade that you can't deal core guys when you're still in the hunt. If we win the WS this year, great and gutsy move. If we don't, then we missed out on significant talent that could have helped us get there. With now the 2 large international signings- success with Chourio-Quero-Mitchell-Frelick-Wiemer-etc. You are getting stretched with so much ML and milb talent arriving at same time. The idea is they take QO picks because that's 2 or 3 besides the normal selections you're adding. It's a 40man collection over 6+years of team control. Without FA signings. So slow it down from this period. This current crop can add via trade in 2-4years. Heck next year Freddy/Devin can add via trade.

Waiting. The 2nd year would need to make him feel he couldn't exceed that to opt out. It's part of the idea on a 14/20 with 3mil going to Hoskins in 2025 of he opts out. So it'd be 17Mil overall for 1yr. If he did have the 2/36 projection maybe it's 15 and 19 with 3mil if opt out? So he got 18 yr 1 like a 2/36. And he's only gambling a loss of 1mil 2nd yr from 18M. While trying to earn more than 18M. Of course what are the deferrals they inject in these contracts. Lol.

The Mlbtr writeup mentioned Philly thought Hoskins would be ready for the WS roster if they made it. So I would think he's more than ready come OD. You look at his defense stats on BRef, 2 seasons at 1b over 1200 innings They give him -1 and +1/+3 runs both. 2 seasons under 850 innings. -7/-7 (855) -5/-20 (334) Smaller sample sizes grade low. Larger more average. He graded at MLB avg for range or slightly higher every season. Better than Tellez' time as a Brewer. The bat has a +16-17 run avg per season which is is 4-5games worth every season. In the Brewers lineup and how well it fills what they need, thinking +6 wins offensively. Which is like 9 wins with 1b performance last season. This all just depends that his ACL doesn't remove this ability he had priority to it.

There's the 15+M contract the team didn't have yet! Glad to see one signed that was wanted by boosayers of offseason signings. This makes for a promising top of the lineup if Chourio can hold down a reasonable top 4. Hoskins/Contreras and Yelich. No more Adames in top 4. Plus get 1 of Frelick/Mitchell/or even Black in top 2 as season progresses. Has a small feeling of GB Packers with the potential youth bat additions to flip the offense to well above avg. 2/34. Interesting how this comes out. Straight 17M per? Since an opt out vs option? 14/20 where an opt out is a 3m buyout of 20 remaining? Lhp masher acquired

Keon Broxton?

Right. Turang carries his lack of power here moving forward because his defense and baserunning. Add that the guy doesn't have to bat in top of the order. It's still early in Brown's advancement so guys that carry high OB to me is questionable carrying all the way to MLB as the pitchers get more control and better overall making batters whiff with their stuff. Pretty much his stat line I'm dropping 75-100 OPS which leaves him in the 600s. Anyway enough bout Brown. Wilken hopefully shows off some defense on top a couple bombs.

Has there been a whisper that Milw is entertaining a Peralta trade? Freddy started and threw the most IP of his career. He learned he was tipping pitches early in the season. He's getting paid 3 years of what Burnes is being paid now. In his prime age. There is a ceiling here that he's not even touched. You're definitely selling low right now if you trade Freddy vs a trade of Burnes selling at value. Keep Freddy for 2 more seasons, then entertain a trade for his last. The salary is too good to not hold on to a ToR arm. Especially as we figure out this OF depth we have and who's going to lead the team from it in 2025 ahead of Chourio without questions. Trade Burnes ok. Freddy? No way. Name a better SP deal in all of MLB.

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/2021/1b/ Just notice if you go back 2020. Or forward 2022. The 1b position is awful among seeing translation from the rankings and the minors to MLB. Andrew Vaughn was oh so needed back in a trade the early Hader trade ideas. Evan white Bobby Bradley? This is the reason you sit here contemplating over Santana vs Cooper right now. Or 1 Rhys Hoskins who played 0 games last season rehabbing, being the guy who should be offered the most years+dollars. Someone probably holding out for a 4yr deal as long as possible because a 1yr prove it deal could go very wrong with his batter profile. So many reasons why advocate for Yelich to get a 1b mitt and play there. Contreras sooner than later if it's just not Black.

GB had the chance to make this near identical start as the Dallas game. They very much could have been up 3 scores and have the ball. Instead it was just 6pts scored. Carlson led to MLFs decision to go for it on 4th and 1 due to 0 confidence in him. I'm positive that's the 4th game Carlson is directly responsible for a losing outcome this season. Maybe the 5th. Mlf imo has consistently ignored being on the road and taking 3 pts when within chip shot range(42yds imo) by going for it on 4th downs and not converting. Take the points. It'd have been 9-0 up 2 scores. Instead 49ers score a TD and just like that you are behind vs still ahead. But maybe again that goes on Carlson where MLF doesn't think 2 more FG attempts are going to be successful later in the game and he has to score TDs every drive. Won that game for 90pct of it. Wasn't even a good game by Love accuracy. A lot to build on positive. See what they can bring in through the draft and FA.

Was he invited last spring? By the looks of his stats for last season would be why not invited this season. Or health? I did say quite often so not always. Just feel like all 3 of Mitchell, Frelick, and Turang got ST invites?

Weapons. Reed, Watson, Wicks, Doubs, Musgrave, and Kraft. Ignore who may actually be the better player in the field, Jones. Count those up? 7. I'll take a 2nd TE over a FB. I mean how many teams run offenses that employ a FB to make a difference these days? (24 FBs in entire nfl) Both Kraft/Musgrave missed games besides being rookies. But they have emerged as every bit the Kittle problem defenses need to plan for. Times 2 when on the field at same time. FB? Give me that. Deebo I'll give you credit is better than any GB puts on the field today for WR/RB weapon. Still needs the QB to get them the ball. Jones is heavily disregarded how great he is. He's a top 3 RB in the NFL who doesn't get the ball enough or stay healthy to, to rack up the numbers. He has a 5ypc average for his career. I think looking at CMC #s this was his 1st Year doing that. Love is playing to MLF's script vs Rodgers who took the play out of Jones hands multiple times scripted for him to run. You're seeing 4 straight games over 100yards what a weapon Jones can be weekly(without a fullback)

Hasn't it been happening quite often lately they invite the 1st rd picks to camp? Or is that a 2nd season thing?

We are at the beginning of watching the greatest show on turf part 2. With 2 Kittles at TE. And if Jones remains in a Packers uniform 2-3 more seasons. What I mean by +13 pts is give us SF defense this team is 13pts better than SF's offense with it. I'm sorry. I write like I'm conversating this in my head. Small summary. We score 29-32pts. San Fran scores 24-28. The +13pt comment is explained above. Just like Dallas, people give credit to winning teams offense and are ignoring a better team offensively will score more points, taking more time off the clock for said offense juggernaut to score what is expected of them. Ignore comparisons the first 8games of the season. Compare for last 9 games of season. That's the matchup here. Gotta imagine the numbers are a different story than the 17game season shows.

Ty Sommers comment is based on how he would back up on coverage already 5+yards off line of scrimmage and then watch balls get completed in front of him. Ala what Walker has been doing up til 3 weeks ago. Sommers at least made an effort then to make the tackle vs Quay just following the play hoping to run in to somebody in the process of tackling or not even making a play at all. He should be better. He's not. Watch him have a great 4th year and come away with a contract he doesn't deserve. That's the effort and body type I see watching his film this season.

With Jones, the Packers offense is better on the field than SF in terms of Weapons. The Musgrave play happened because of 2 consecutive positive runs by Jones set up play action that showed what play action does after being set up properly. Jones has been this type of RB but not used enough over his career with Dillon stealing multiple drives of him ever seeing the field. As a whole GB +13pts on offense this game. Defense. How well does Purdy and Kittle work vs how does Walker play if ever responsible vs Kittle.(or Deebo for that matter) Sustained drives that keep GBs offense off the field equal pts gained by SF. Keep them at or below 50pct 3rd down we win. 60+ well then ST. Carlson misses XP weekly and FGs. GB will lose because of him then. 29pts-loss. 31-34 win.

The defense improved some when Quay Walker stopped playing so much 6-8yards off line scrimmage about to play zone on 3rd and 5-8 and immediately upon snap take 4yards back, watch who he should defend catch the ball in front of him and proceed to not make any effort making the tackle just hope he got ran in to. The last 3 games somebody has him running towards line of scrimmage forcing him to be in the play. He's stepping forward in his coverage at snap I noticed vs back 4yards so that receiver isn't 7yards open in the middle of the field. Plus in a better position to make a hit vs just getting run in to. He's getting far too much love for a guy I think sits between Blake Martinez and Ty Sommers level at LB. He should be better but he's taken a big step back from his draft day body and skills. Ive wondered on Barry scheme or LBs coaches who can't work with his talents teaching him away from what he does best. Another thought was Savage's return. How long ago was that? He may have locked down a little more turf Quay was being asked to cover and that pit him more in position or aggressive up near line of scrimmage. How Walker plays of the 11 on the field I think he sits most responsible for the bad vs good on the defense.

Looking at Statcast for the 4 not named Hoskins this sums up for me. Santana for his Career(entire) has been expected to hit more HRs than he actually hit at AM Fam aside from 1 season where he hit the expected. (Crazy) Cron somehow hits top 8pct max exit velocity yearly yet almost never averages top 50pct overall exit velocity. Lots of pop ups hurt him. HRs about expected at AM Fam. Cooper is consistent (tailed off on EV and increase k pct)nd has a +11 HRs at AM Fam last 2 seasons. Smith is awful compared to these 3. He's just younger but his class of numbers isn't close. Now aside from Santana the other 3 were less PAs so I'm not sure if we're looking at platoon stats with Cron and Cooper. I'll have to check. But on looking via statcast it'd be Santana 1, Cooper 2, Cron-3. Bauers-4. Please no Smith. Crons numbers are boosted in 21/22 due to Colorado vs expected vs Cooper and Santana. Making his case worse. Santana has the defense locked down. The HR expected + locked down. Coopers splits last 2 seasons were .904 vs lhp and. .666 vs rhp .628 vs lhp and 788 vs rhp with PAs being about equal both seasons. We should be sticking with Santana and Cooper as the backup plan. Cron 3rd if you just want a guy to dfa immediately when Black or someone else steps up to take over.

Is Quero a certainty to start in AAA? I've wondered on him hanging back in AA to catch Miserioski while he develops to a promotion to AAA. That's the future duo you hope spend 7 seasons together winning a few GG and CY multiple times right? Certainly Miserioski's ramp up year in terms of innings allowed to pitch. Good for both development.

Kid is already in a MLB man's body frame. Quiet body in this swing until end. But he's the build you dream off just popping balls without trying. Hope he doesn't get 6-7 and above. Gotta figure corner of/3b if they already like the arm. The power in the swing should come natural at that height with age.

Aged well boys and girls. Musgrave and kraft are better TE outlets than Rodgers ever had in his career. They are #1 and 2 above maybe #3 Finley? Playaction with a run game and having the 2 best TEs to throw to besides you WRs, is absurd. If Jones is healthy, this offense is unstoppable if they want to be. Also, scored 1st and the smurf that is Prescott quickly showed up and gave GB a 3 score lead not long after. His throws 3 in a row there reminded what Love threw to begin the season. Off target. Love after 5 games his problem was leading and throwing the ball 1.5 yards further than he was. His accuracy shows he does that with ease now. Yet he's even better. Congrats to Love on his successful season and being the right decision when drafted.

1st Packers post this season. There's a lot of helium on the cowboys offense at home. The defense on games I looked at scored 16pts themselves. Set up the offense inside the 25yard line at least 3 more times. Teams turned it over on downs like 3 times per game. Dallas winning the turnover game being something Love hasn't done the last half this season. Detroit kicks a FG vs going for it on 4th and goal down 10-3 on 3yd line. 10-6 game. They win 23-20. Point is, Love and the offense is playing at a higher level than Dallas has been going up against. They take care of the ball, I'm going GB runs away with this game. Kraft/Musgrave are such threats and outlets that Love has thrown to on big time plays. Contain Lamb on 1 big play that we make over him. Yeah he'll get more opportunities, but it's Prescott- he's going to flare one Lamb's way if Dallas is behind and a deflection or interception will seal the deal for GB. I think I'll go see just how many pts Dallas defense scored at home or gave Dallas offense field position within the 35yard line(FG range) 33pts defensively so 32pts a game offensively. 5 times inside 35 but 4 more time on the 37 they scored as result so 9 overall. 16-6 TO win. QBs faced-Z Wilson, Mac jones-Zaippe. Stafford. Devito(170yds offense). Howell. Smith. Hurts. Goff. Dallas does an exceptional job scoring 1st at home 1st drive Tds. I'd avoid giving them the ball first. But MLF won't do that. Also Dallas does an amazing job giving up 8-12yrds on 3rd and 9-15 and followed by stopping opponents on 4th down. Either don't go for it or hope Love is the better quality of those 9 QBs Dal went against in those situations. (Certainly lately has been)

I'll take a stab and guess between 3 Arb seasons and Super 2 seasons, your window to extend/sign through remaining Arby years is at #2. 3 and 4 that player has basically signaled they'll test FA. By not settling by yesterday's date and exchanging figures, the team and player do extend that timeline to complete a 1+yr deal. Can't believe Passan said Brewers signed Williams and then turns out they didn't? Burnes last year he was CY in 21- career high in IP and Ks in 22. He was top of the food chain for mlb players as a SP for the arb stage he was in. I think there was the pressure on on the players side to submit a higher number for future players and the same could be said from the Brewers FO and owners side. Had Burnes won, what's his salary today? 16+M instead? He beat projection yesterday. Makeup on both sides? Owners+ Players?

Hopefully in Williams exchange it turns in to signing a 2 year deal. Glad Burnes settled. There's now a salary number on determining trade value as does Adames. Both higher than projected, but not too bad. Payamps bullpen role, the deal or Arb wouldn't make a big splash 1 way or the other. Seems the team gave up more than projected thus far.