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Pointless. No reason to ask this question until after the trade deadline-Next year. Because at that point you'll know what the returns are(if any) for all the Brewers whose control ends after 2024 season. Which stands at 7-10players. Team could blow it up this year by trading most of those players and say Urias/Williams/Rea controlled through 2025. Tank to 70-ish wins, get a top 8 draft selection and have a stocked aplenty minors system of players you're likely seeing 5 or more play in September.

The counter I'd have on the RBs to shorten the field, is Rodgers had the green light to run, pass option change Lafluer's(whoever) called play at his discretion. He'd pass out wide to a WR when the O-line/RBs were in motion for the play to be a run. If the WR didn't catch the ball or break that first tackle, very little yards gained/none/lost yardarge. Had the running play happened, well Jones has a 5yards per carry avg. Dillon below 4 I believe. Expect it'll be different this season as Love won't be reading defenses anywhere as well Rodgers did to change the play without anyone knowing but him and the WR. Rbs will get the ball fed to them running more clock and more consistent pulling 4yards or more to shorten the field, even gaining 1st downs. Expect this to lead to a bunch of play action utilizing the 2 TEs or over the top deep balls to Watson. He really does have the full array of weapons that Rodgers never had. 2 receiving TEs vs Kuhn plus Finley.

Nice to see 2nd HR had runners on 2nd and 3rd with 2outs. Excited for this guy. He has to be headed to AAA before too long. How the team works him in to the Milwaukee lineup next season with Contreras really leaves me wondering. Which of the 2 puts on a 1b glove and plays there? How much DH time could there be when Yelich you would assume slides there next season.

Well for being 2 years younger and obviously not to the 119games Walker played for his entire age 20 season in 2022, Chourio has some games to build up to the similar stats besides hrs/rbi. Looks like we're at 38games thus far. You'd imagine the callup would happen in late June early July to AAA when a healthy Frelick/Wiemer would have joined the team. Injuries moved Wiemer right away and unfortunately took Frelick less than 3 weeks later. 6-8weeks is what was said Frelick would be down. What are we 3weeks in? Expect a callup around 65-70AA games to AAA. He can add 60+games at AAA to determine a Sept callup. August 1st if the crew trade say Wiemer or Frelick around deadline.

No it's the expectation because he has 2 veteran RBs to shorten down and distance to go. It's the expectation because Gutekunst used 2 draft picks in 2020 to select Love over helping the current team. He's special, that's what that move suggested. Love has had 3 years to prepare for this role. Burrows, Herbert, Tua, and Jalen Hurts had none. Hurts drafted after Love already established top tier QB besides Burrows and Herbert. I expect better from Love than rookie level record. Year 2&3 from the 4-Herbert 9&10 wins. Hurts 8&14 wins. Tua 7&8 wins. Burrows isn't fair to comp considering his sure fire generational QB taken 1-1, but 10&12. Average year 2- 8.5 wins. Year 3- 11 wins. I don't get why it should be comparable to Rodgers' 6wins just because 7 games lost were by 7 pts or less, with 5 being 3pts or less. Expected w/l was 8.9. 8.9wins in a 16game season is where the comp should be. Not the actual w/l. So again 9 at 16games and 10 if 17games. 2007 they faced a schedule for a 1st place 13win team. This season is following a 3rd place 8 win team. Easier schedule. Jennings was Rodgers #1 WR a 3rd year 52nd pick in 2nd rd. And Driver. Nelson and Finley were rookies that season. Ryan Grant and Brandon Jackson RBs with Kuhn FB. Compare Watson-Jennings Doubs-Driver Musgrave/Reed-Nelson Kraft-Finley Jones/Dillon-Grant Jackson. Seems to me Love has more weapons to play with better RBs again. He just doesn't have the veteran Driver but a higher drafted similar size Doubs. I think Gutekunst should be removed from GM if the team doesn't win 7 or more games. With only Love suffering a 10game or more injury saving him from that expectation. He built this roster for Love's emergence, not at all to surround Rodgers the last 3 seasons.

I agree the defense should put more pressure on QBs. More pressure means more QBs making quick and at times poor decisions throwing the ball or bad throws on the run. The secondary will have more opportunities to make interceptions if they can catch the damn ball. That is giving the offense better field position and more chances to have a scoring outcome(if these aren't pick 6s 😁) The worry is how does Love react to pressure himself. Has he learned in 3 years to get rid of the ball and avoid taking hits? Will he run with the ball and slide or take hits? How well does his body respond to the hits, or is he soft and by week 5 his season is over? Can the O-line keep him upright consistently? I'm expecting to see a lot of screens out in the flats to WRs or TEs lined up 3 to a side this season. You've got guys with probably enough wiggle to make the 1st guy miss, and if the blocking is sustained they'll take 6-9yd chunks, where you hope Jones/Dillon turn in to 1st downs if the play didn't get them a 1st to begin with. If Love starts 16 games or all 17 games, I think it's a failure if they don't win 9games this season. 10 of he starts all 17. Obviously that can be adjusted if the defense suffers multiple injuries to key guys like Gary's impact did. And no team plays a full season without losing at least 1 top 8 player on it for numerous games. Think GB's history is filled with these losses before week 4.

He's shown that the team can handle an Adames injury or trade future with his defense. As a 2b/SS great defense gives you a long leash with bad batting. And thus far Turang is showing better than bad batting.

Houser isn't at a 3year FA contract level at this moment. He's more at the 1+mutual Option type FA contract. His role was to become a RP this season. And now we're back at SP. If we see an extension this offseason I'd figure they pay him his last season of Arb and put a mutual option to it. Maybe sounds like an in-season deal. He's a swing man pitcher at the moment. Your best comp would probably be Carlos Villanueva who fit that role that I believe got a deal at some point with the Cubs...tanking years?

It'd be foolish for the Packers to not pick up his 5th year option. I'd think the hold up is trying to extend Love now and he's witnessing what Jackson got and well. Love knows where he stands in terms of talent, the practices, maybe what Rodgers passed on to him where he thinks he at in the league. The outside view is he's not proven to be a top tier or tier 2 QB thus far. So outside people would think like Reilly 20/20/25x3 should be good enough for Love to take. But Love shows out this year his numbers are upper 30s since that is what the rate is. Daniel Jones has 40mil per the next 4 years. Love is sitting in the catbird seat because he's got 20mil easy coming to him on that 5th year option. All it takes for him is to look really good for 1 of the next two seasons to see twice that or more come 2026. It's just a dream to believe Love would sign an extension that at first glance you'd think that team friendly if. Any extension he gets the first glance has to look like whoa, whoa, whoa that's way too much! It's their fault really to be in this situation because A. you didn't have to draft him in 2020. B. you didn't have to extend Rodgers to the seasons where you're stuck making the 5th year option decision on Love or extending him. C. You also let Rodgers get the win believing he could pull out 5 consecutive wins, vs benching him with 5 games to play and giving Love a real shot to prove himself on not only the 5th year option but a price point for an extension.

I'm not too high on Brooks. He's clearly slow and non agile. Bowling Green's conference is basically filled with 1 good team and the rest fighting for 4-6wins on the season. I went back through last 2 seasons of box scores and vs the 4 teams with significance outside the conference faced. UCLA had 0 tackles, 1 PD. Mississippi St. 1 solo tackle 1 PD. And the bowl game vs New Mexico St. 0 Tackles. 1 PD. In 2022. Against the 7-6 2021 Tennessee Vols he did have 5 total tackles with 1 for loss. Minnesota 1 tackle a sack. So against 5 teams outside his conference 5G 7 Tackles 2TFL. 1 sack. Highest rank teams were MS St at 20 and UCLA at 21. I'd be very surprised if the NFL talent facing doesn't keep him from having any impact.

You're probably right since I use wifi. I just wouldn't mind it split it half on 2 posts with the scrolling space to move to the next post.

Any chance when you post videos to limit it to 2 or 3 max? Really bogs down trying to load. Sat for over 1min waiting for this comment to load.

More TE video watching. I'm feeling Mayer will be a bust. A guy who suffers an injury and loses what he barely has going for him. Washington has Finley vibes on the field only meaner and bigger blocking. He's a steal. Musgrave really gives me the Jordy Nelson vibes if Nelson were a TE size and build. Biggest rec threat ability. As I mentioned LaPorta is just the mix of Washington/Musgrave. Fall back option if the two are gone when we pick but 40s is high. Mod 50s fits right to even 60s. I'd rather take Mausch before him.

Great finds. He destroyed both Skoronski and Johnson. Huge factor is the weight gain building up and into his position. He's not finished and will be a big problem for defenses. Just quick TE tapes, there is 4 available with 2nd rd potential when you add Sam LaPorta. Mayer doesn't look fluid the way he runs. Didnt pop out to me. Musgrave looks much quicker but a little small so rec would be amazing but blocking iffy. Washington absolutely moves like Lewis only 2 steps quicker and maybe smidge meaner. LaPorta was like a mix of both Musgrave and Washington. Bears and Lions have 5 picks in the 2nd but only 1 before GB's 2 picks. (Bears have #1 in 3rd) I'd expect 1 or both to try jumping ahead of us. T Cody Mausch reads and looks like what the Packers want for an OL. I could see GB trading down 45 if Branch and other ideal targets were gone, with 1 TE selected at 42.

Or if they are in need to shed some cap money Baltimore maybe offers to take Bahkt and his salary of our hands? you know plus a couple picks from them.

So true on the early 2nds. You go back and see the values from like the top 10-15 picked in 2nd round, they seem to hit more than the majority of values of bottom 10 in 1st round. That overnight plus 1st rd drops very good decisions being made.

Thanks really forgot that move. Really just forgot he'd been around that long.

It's either the 3rd or other 2nd. It'd be every pick after the 3rd rd and a future 5th rd pick just to get in to the 30 selection.

Has Gutekunst traded down once in a live draft? Don't think he knows how to make it happen. Savage, Love, Watson only trading up. He's definitely trading up tonight. It'll either be in to top 10, or the 20s. I'm hoping it's the 20s version because the potential cost moving inside the top 10 would leave the team with their 6&7ths and 2? Picks above 6th rd. I still can't see why they would use the 1st on JSN after drafting Watson, but then again he failed to supply Rodgers with top WRs so now he'll feed Love the top WRs and ignore the more glaring need for a DE and TE or OL protection. I just think they could draft a WR later having Watson as a #1 Doubs #2. Slot guys as JSN is talked about as, are the type who fall in to 2nd-5th rds. Went over to WalterFootball. Lucas Van Ness is in the draft after redshirt sophomore year. Has the measurables while being a year younger has the sound of a 1st rd pick you extend and have for the prime age seasons. Myles Murphy also sounds like the duo fit pass rusher/ run defense they need badly. We're going to be a team giving 4-6secs for QBs to tear apart the defense again if we don't get help with pass rush.

Could who they brought in be an effect the belief Skoronski is picked well before 15, now 13? How was Jenkins talked about pre-draft? Wouldn't Pro-Bowler at guard who can kick out to average Tackle be a good fit with the OL makeup right now? I imagine guard is quicker to get going over a tackle? So he gets seasoning in game experience while grasping the Tackle position as time goes?

Just isn't a reason to draft a WR with 13th pick after trading up and getting Watson in 2nd last season. I'm looking for Edge or OL with 13. Skoronski or Paris Johnson. I wonder on this draft if 1 of the 2 fall down to 13 you the one who did. Otherwise the writeups on Edges seem to have mix on being an edge or adding weight to be a DT. The defensive fronts we run, the hybrid version sounds like a winning add to me either way. Our secondary may produce more turnovers with a QB more under duress or having better 3down distance to go situations stopping the run. Of course there's the dire need on a TE. I keep seeing Kincaid in that 9-13 range. Doesn't read to me like he or a bunch of these 1st rd/early 2nd TEs really belong there. Just seems to show how weak the draft class is by projecting them that high. Maybe I'm missing something with Kincaid being that high but if he's around when 13 comes and GB selects him, hope he turns out to value there. We need one. I've hated the last decade of TEs with 0 downfield threat. 0 Red zone threat. Just always felt Rodgers found TEs on defensive breakdowns coving them. It wasn't that they beat a guy 1-on-1.

I don't think they would use both 2nds. I think Patrick is same when agreeing from my suggestion that 1 of the 2nds would be used to trade back in to 1st. Both 2nds would technically get to 17-20. So would that be a tier of players better than 20-50 and worthwhile?

Going to guess GB trades up back in to 1st rd with either Cincy or NO to select the best remaining TE that falls there using 1 of the 2nds and the 3 rd. pick.

Well what's your definition as high? 3rd rd sounds good to me so expectations would be it turns in to an awful player because 3rd. I'd think they find a way to sign/trade for a vet vs spending a pick on a guy this season. I'd hope Love is focused on his 1st season starting versus being dragged in to some teaching already himself. I'd also want a vet that could be a mentor as Love goes through his in game experiences to talk to.

Finally the saga is done. Draft value gained is about #33/34. So the 1st pick in 2nd rd. Kinda lame we had to throw in the 5th but maybe that changed the 2024 narrative if Rodgers didn't play that season GB should return some kind of 2025 pick. 65pct of the plays I assume is offensive snaps? Or plays that a QB is used. Seems easier than the condition of division winning or making the playoffs to get the 1st in 24. He could miss 4-5games now that are losses that improve that 1st rd pick. And obviously if he doesn't play 65pct, that 2nd is going to be higher.