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  1. sveumrules
    The Royals sold for a billion in 2020. This Sports Business Journal article tracks every MLB/NFL/NBA/NHL franchise sale since 1998... https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Journal/Issues/2018/11/26/In-Depth/Team-sales.aspx I've listed just the MLB sales below... 1998 Dodgers 311 M 1998 Rangers 250 M 1999 Angels 147 M 1999 Reds 67 M 2000 Indians 323 M 2000 Blue Jays 112 M 2000 Royals 96 M 2002 Red Sox 700 M 2002 Marlins 158.5 M 2002 Mets 135 M 2002 Expos 120 M 2003 Angels 183.5 M 2004 DBacks 160 M 2004 Dodgers 430 M 2004 Rays 65 M 2005 Brewers 220 M 2005 Athletics 180 M 2006 Nationals 450 M 2006 Reds 270 M 2007 Braves 450 M 2009 Cubs 845 M 2010 Rangers 385 M 2011 Astros 615 M 2012 Dodgers 2.15 B 2012 Padres 800 M 2013 Rangers 593 M 2016 Mariners 661 M 2017 Marlins 1.2 B 2020 Royals 1B 2020 Mets 2.475 B Using 2008 as a dividing line since it's in the middle-ish & no teams were sold that year results in the following splits... 10 years before 2008, 20 sales for 4.828 billion. 13 years after 2008, 10 sales for 10.724 billion. Pre-2008: 2 sales per year for a 241.4 million average Post-2008: 0.77 sales per year for a 1.072 billion average That teams have sold with notably less frequency of late, despite their sale prices skyrocketing by an even greater measure, indicates to me that owning a team is pretty, pretty profitable these days.
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    Seemingly, the narrative has developed that solely because the teams are profitable and despite already paying fantastic wages, in the spirit of fairness they somehow should take less profits and pay out even more in salary, a concept which is not supported by law or custom in America. Sure there's now law requiring a company with increasing revenues to share some of those additional revenues with the employees who generated them, but it certainly seems more equitable to do so. The NFL & NBA split revenue between players/ownership on a fixed percentage & their salaries have skyrocketed as a result. Despite increasing revenue, league wide MLB payroll is static since 2015 & down since 2017. But yeah, the players should just accept whatever the owners propose because it's indisputable that they'll do better.
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    Who won the world series that year? Nobody did. The possibility of another cancelled World Series could have theoretically been a pretty big motivating factor for both sides to make some compromises & get a deal done. But the owners locked out the players then fell into silence for over six weeks. What mistake did the players make in that instance?
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    No labor union in America is going to show up to work without a collective bargaining agreement with the employer. The players showed up to work in 1994 without a CBA.
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    Did the players go on strike? This is all about the owners forcing the players to fix the mistakes the owners keep making. The players would have absolutely gone on strike at some point this year without them getting what they want. Sure. But we would have still had an offseason & then actual baseball games while the negotiations were ongoing. I'd imagine the owners would have been more willing to negotiate (& maybe even make some compromises) if there was a threat of losing postseason revenue. Instead the owners locked out the players & then went into radio silence for over six weeks. Almost seems like they aren't even interested in negotiating in good faith. Maybe because they know they can do nothing at all & many fans will still blame the players for the owners' inaction? Pretty good strategy, if so. I guess that's one way to get billions of dollars (besides being born into it, of course).
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    Manfred at this point is essentially like that big brother that takes your own hands and starts slapping you in your own face with them & then asks mockingly "why are you slapping yourself in the face?"
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    Robert Manfred is an anagram for Mr. Boner Farted.
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    Sounds like who is getting close to what? Last report I saw was Stearns can opt out after 2022 if the Brewers make the WS, otherwise he's under contract through 2023.
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    Nice to see them bounce back & have a dominant win over a team they should beat. With how tough the schedule is from here on out they're going to need to take care of business in these kind of games down the stretch.
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    Agreed, Passan has had some of the best coverage throughout this whole ordeal for sure. I just came across this AP article noting that combined MLB payrolls have actually declined since peaking at 4.25 billion in 2017... https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-mlb-sports-business-health-7257a7c73e1e66aef4979986d5c5c864 That got me wondering how MLB salary growth compared to the NFL & NBA with their centralized revenue sharing over the last 10 years & these were the numbers I found... NFL Salary Cap 2012: 120.6 million NFL Salary Cap 2022: 208.2 million (72.6% growth) NFL Average Salary 2012: 1.9 million NFL Average Salary 2022: 2.8 million (47.4% growth) NBA Salary Cap 2012-13: 58 million NBA Salary Cap 2021–22: 112.4 million (93.8% growth) NBA Average Salary 2012-13: 5.15 million NBA Average Salary 2021-22: 8.25 million (60.2% growth) MLB CBT Threshold 2012: 178 million MLB CBT Threshold 2021: 210 million (18% growth) MLB Total Payroll 2012: 3.15 billion MLB Total Payroll 2021: 4.05 billion (28.6% growth) MLB Average Salary 2012: 3.2 million MLB Average Salary 2021: 4.17 million (30.3% growth)
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    BUT ITS AGAINST DENVER
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    Liberty Media released their 2021 financials the other day offering a sneak peek into the Braves accounting... https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-braves-made-some-money-in-2021/ A couple key paragraphs... The Braves enjoyed a banner year in 2021. Per their filing, they turned a profit of $104 million. That’s full-year OIBDA, or operating income before depreciation and amortization. That brings their four-year operating income, including the pandemic-marred 2020 season, to $193 million. If you’re looking for a rough idea of how teams fared from 2018 through ’21, using the Braves’ numbers and lopping off $40 million from their results last season isn’t a bad start. That would tell you that the average team has made roughly $145 million in operating income over the past four years, even including a disastrous 2020. Of course that second paragraph requires some extrapolation & educated guess work since we don't have the same access to other teams' financials, but it would appear the owners have been faring pretty well even with the pandemic wiping out a whole year of attendance in 2020, taking a bite out of attendance in 2021 & now probably losing some of the 2022 gate as well due to labor strife.
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    I've got Ashby/Wiemer together in the top tier myself. I could see the case for either as #1, Ashby has electric stuff & already had success at the MLB level, so he should be #1. But maybe his command limits him to the bullpen so maybe not. Wiemer's an athletic marvel with the best power/speed/arm/hair combo in the system, so he should be #1. But he's only really done it for like half a season & not at AA yet so maybe not. I mostly just want the lockout to be over so we can get a new BF.net Top 25 going for 2022. I've got 29 guys on my list at the moment so if Stearns & company want to wheel & deal once the CBA is settled they should have some ammo to do so.
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    Disagree. The average working guy disagrees as well. It is extremely relevant to people making 60K how much players make, and turn down. Again, using Soto as an example. Dude turns down 350 million and expects regular working guys to feel bad for him? I'm laughing out loud! Opinion, not fact. Do players even have a "plight" if they turn down 350 million? When did Soto ever say "feel bad for me?" It is a fact that the owners are much richer than the players... https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/12/mlb-owners-net-worth.html
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    Sal Frelick getting a mention in the Well Rounded Up The Middle Prospects section of the FanGraphs Picks To Click article looking at possible 2023 Top 100 Candidates... https://blogs.fangraphs.com/picks-to-click-who-we-expect-to-make-the-2023-top-100/
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    The median income in the country is irrelevant. Baseball is its own economy with an Antitrust Exemption & everything. If its hard to relate to the "plight" of the players, it should be exponentially harder to relate to the "plight" of the owners since they are exponentially richer than the players.
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    Maybe they would have, maybe they wouldn't have. The difference would be that while the two sides were negotiating there still would have been baseball happening. I'm not saying the players are "good guys" & owners are "villains", just that when you compare both sides actions & proposals against one another the owners are far more villainous. Right now the players are essentially Gard & the owners are more or less Juwan Howard.
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    Kind of fun reading the FG list from today & seeing some players with obviously more advanced & souped up, but still the same general profiles, as guys in the Brewers system. Of course we're talking about best case scenario type outcomes, but reading the Francisco Alvarez (#7) write up, there's definitely some Quero in there as a Venezuelan catcher with pop who makes good swing decisions & should be able to stick behind the plate. Or Corbin Carroll (#14) being where Mitchell could be a year from now if everything breaks right. Hit over power profile (but the raw is there) who is fast enough to stay in CF with injury concerns, possibly tied to all out play style. You can even squint at Oneil Cruz (#8) & see a little Wiemer in there. Imposing physical specimens with plus power, wheels & arms, but concerns about how much contact they'll make. Cruz is a SS at the moment which is a huge difference, but at 6' 7" RF is prolly his more likely long term position.
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    Ashby comes in at #46 (12th pitcher on the list if I counted right) and Wiemer #78 on the FanGraphs Top 114... https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2022-top-100-prospects/
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    I agree, but considering the owners locked out the players & their proposals to this point demonstrate an unwillingness to even really negotiate in good faith, I'd say their share of the blame is magnitudes larger than the players' share.
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    Looked to me like Gard was trying to coach up Howard on how to behave like an adult, Juwan clearly needs it.
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    If the owners hadn't locked out the players, the offseason & eventually the regular season would have proceeded as normal, just without a CBA in place. That's what happened in 1994 anyway. The owners didn't want this for two main reasons. One is the salary cap, errrr I mean the "luxury tax". Had the owners not locked out the players, there would be no mechanism in place to limit spending with the CBA expired. The other is leverage. If the season had continued while negotiations were ongoing the players could choose to strike prior to the postseason, where the owners receive a much larger percentage of revenues compared to the early season games they stand to lose by initiating a lockout instead. I'm still waiting to hear which elements of the owners proposals posters find more reasonable or better suited for the future of the game when compared to those same elements of the players proposals.
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    Sure, I'd prefer if the Brewers & all other wealthy corporate entities paid their own way for everything, but until the workers of the world unite & take over that is an unrealistic preference. As long as we are operating under the pay to play system I'd rather those subsidies go to the Brewers (who in addition to providing entertainment have a long history of community involvement) than say someone like FoxConn or whoever. How has the taxpayers ROI on a relatively small tax for the Brewers compared to their ROI for much larger taxes they've paid to subsidize other corporate entities over the years?
  24. sveumrules
    When the Nationals won the WS in 2019 they "paid" Strasburg 38.3 million, Scherzer 37.4 million & still had another 120 million left to fill out their roster. 13/350 is about 27 million a year. Lerner's net worth is estimated over 5 billion dollars, he can still afford whatever he wants whether he pays Soto 350 million or 500 million. Which elements of the owners current proposals do you find more reasonable than the player's most recent proposals?
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    FanGraphs tries to find some fun landing spots for free agent hitters with Schwarber going to the Brewers for 5/80... https://blogs.fangraphs.com/lets-sign-some-hitters/ Article also has Bryant going to TOR for 5/90. Assuming those contracts are in the range of what they end up signing for (I have no idea) & the Brewers are prepared to spend in that range (I have my doubts), I would imagine Stearns & company would be more interested in Bryant because of the additional positional flexibility he offers, but would obviously be alright with signing either at around those prices.
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