Madhawk23

I threw out a potential trade proposal for Duran in the Freddy Peralta thread. Here's the link: https://brewerfanatic.com/forums/topic/46268-what-could-freddy-peralta-fetch-in-a-trade/?&_rid=3996#findComment-1713856

Do the M's really need another SP? I could see them making a run at someone like Skubal, who's one of the top 2-3 SP's in the game right now and would be a real difference maker for any team, but I'm not sure if they'd really have a need for a guy like Freddy who's going to be more of a mid-rotation type arm for them. The Mets or Red Sox on the other hand are the teams that I think would make a bit more sense on a potential Freddy deal.

Since Woody has already been through FA a couple of years ago when he had the shoulder surgery (and when we locked him up for this current 2-year deal), I'm assuming that means we won't get the Comp round draft pick if he declines the QO, right?

For Woody's sake, I hope I'm wrong - but I don't think there's any way he's getting a 9 figure deal this winter. I think he might have to settle for a 1-year "prove-it" deal and then maybe he hits it big after that if he proves that his stuff is coming back (or that he can consistently pitch well with the lesser stuff). His late season injury won't help his cause this winter.

I definitely don't hate the idea of taking a flier on a guy like Buehler - especially if you think he can get back to being closer to his old self with an extra year removed from his latest TJ surgery. However, I think we'd be looking at an either/or situation between him and Woody then....and if that's the case (and the $$ is pretty close for both guys), I'd probably just prefer that we work out a deal to bring Woody back on a "prove-it" type contract for a year or two.

Any chance the Red Sox would be in play on a Freddy Peralta trade this winter? And if so, any chance we could do a similar type of a trade (as mentioned above to the Mets) where we include Megill in the trade too to up the package coming back? Red Sox get: Freddy Peralta and Trevor Megill Brewers get: Jarren Duran and Connelly Early (or Payton Tolle) Similar to the Mets, the Red Sox could instantly start talking extension with Freddy and would certainly have the financial resources to potentially get a deal done before he hits FA. And while I know they already have Chapman closing games, Megill would give them another leverage arm in the pen - and from the opposite side than Chapman. Duran has been in a lot of trade speculation for a while now with all of the OF depth that the Red Sox have, and while we too currently have pretty good OF depth at the MLB level - he seems like a guy that our organization would LOVE. Looks like he's not set to hit FA until after the '29 season so that would be another plus too, especially given the lack of good OF prospects in the upper level of our minor league system right now. Early pitched very well this year, and even shined in his first 4 starts late in the season for the Red Sox, so I'm not sure how eager the Red Sox would be to part ways with him? If they are higher on Early, maybe you swap Tolle into this spot. Or, if they don't want to trade us either of those guys, we could always ask for Brandon Clarke - but he probably wouldn't be MLB ready until '27 at the earliest I'd think. Thoughts on the Red Sox being a potential trade partner - if we do decide to move Freddy (and Trevor) this winter?

Thanks for the rundown on Mauricio. I knew he was a highly thought of prospect coming up the Mets system, but honestly haven't watched enough Mets games to really know much about his game at the MLB level. In reading your comments about him, he certainly feels like the type of guy that could come to an organization like ours and thrive. Not saying he would follow the Adames path, but it also wouldn't shock me to see him really emerge like Willy did after joining the Brewers.....if we were able to make a deal that included him in the package coming back. If we were to take Megill out of this trade with the Mets, I wonder if both Arnold and Stearns could get behind a Tong & Mauricio package in exchange for Freddy? Or, would Stearns have both Tong and Maclean as "off limits" in any trade package? If both of those guys are off limits, would Arnold and Co. be OK with subbing in a guy like Sproat instead? In reading Sproat's bio, I'm definitely not as high on him as I would be with someone like Tong.

I could certainly get behind a package of Tong, Sproat, Maurisio and Lantigua for Freddy and Megill. Getting a couple of MLB ready SP's back in the deal along with a guy like Mauricio that is also a big-league contributor already, feels like a Brewers type deal. What's the story on Mauricio though? I know he was a highly thought of prospect coming up their system, but doesn't appear to be a guy that's really broken out yet. Can anyone that's seen him play more than me tell me if there's still big potential in his profile? Does he have a starting spot somewhere in the Mets IF next season pretty much locked up? Or, is he just seen as more of a utility IF long term? I think for the Brewers to want him back in a package like this they'd have to see potential for him to be a 20+ home run bat. Could this guy be our next Willy Adames for example? A big name prospect that just can't quite find his way until he enters the Brewers org? Sign me up for him if that's what we'd be looking at.

I don't disagree that it's probably way too rich of a package coming back from the Mets, but I think it also would depend on how much they value a guy like Megill who still has several years of control left before he's a FA. Sure....they could always sign Freddy when he becomes a FA after next year, but this would give them several months to perhaps work out a deal with Freddy before every other team has the ability to also take a swing at him (assuming Freddy would be open to working out a deal with them before hitting FA?). But yes.....a huge longshot here that a deal like this would ever come to fruition and perhaps I'm asking for too much in return. Would depend on how desperate the Mets are to contend for a WS next year and also would depend on how highly they view their own prospects. We've seen closers go for quite a bit of value at the trade deadline each year, so three years of Megill should be worth a decent prospect package just on it's own. Throw in a TOR starter like Freddy, and I can't imagine that I'm too far off on what a return package could look like?? Definitely takes two to tango though on these deals, and we just don't know how motivated either side would be to do something like this?

First off.....I remain in the camp that says the Brewers should keep Freddy Peralta, and I ultimately believe that they will keep Freddy Peralta. I don't blame them at all for seeing what offers might arise this winter for Freddy, but I do hope that he's a still a Brewer when the team starts the '26 season in late March or early April next spring. But since it's officially the offseason now and all we can do is speculate on free agent signings or trades, let's have some fun with this. I think the ONLY way Arnold trades Freddy this winter is if he's blown away with an offer. And to get blown away, you need a team with some desperation. No other team (IMO) is going to be more desperate this winter than the Mets and our old pal David Stearns. On top of this, David obviously knows Freddy better than any other GM out there not named Matt Arnold. To make things even more interesting, the Mets COULD be in the market for a closer if Diaz does opt-out of his contract there. So again....let's get crazy here: Mets get: Freddy Peralta Trevor Megill Brewers get: Jonah Tong Jett Williams Jack Wenninger Elian Pena Why this could work: Again, 2026 feels like a big year for the Mets and Stearns. Sure, they could go out and just buy a bunch of FA's this winter, but the crop of SP's on the FA market doesn't look overly exciting once you get past the top 2-3 guys. So, if the Mets miss out on those guys, maybe they get even more desperate? I see a lot of people speculating that they might try to do a deal with the Tigers for Skubal. If that comes to fruition, then we can probably take this crazy trade idea off the table....but something tells me that Detroit will hold onto Skubal. Also, if the Mets do trade for Freddy they could instantly start talking extension with him and sign him long-term, so I don't think they'd view this as just a 1-year type situation. If Diaz does opt-out and lands elsewhere this winter in FA then they'll obviously need to find a closer. While I love Megill, I think he's somewhat expendable for us with the emergence of Uribe this season and we have other good relievers in our pen. On top of that, I feel pretty confident in our ability to find another Megill type that other teams give up on. And not sure how much this would matter, but the Mets have Trevor's brother already on the roster, so why not corner the market on all of the Megills! Why this may not work: Despite the Mets being desperate, I'm sure they probably don't want to deal either Tong or Williams, nevertheless both. Pena could also turn into a real stud prospect in another year or two as well. But, Tong does bring some risk with his profile with his smaller stature and somewhat funkier delivery. Jett is also a really small dude as well.....but let's face it, the Brewers love small guys! In the end though, giving up two Top 50 prospects along with two other intriguing prospects might just be too much for the Mets to feel comfortable with, especially if Stearns and Co. really love these prospects and their future potential. Summary: Freddy would give the Mets a front-line piece for their rotation. Not just for next year, but probably for many years to come as I'm sure they would extend Freddy shortly after trading for him. Megill could become the Mets closer on day 1 (if Diaz signs elsewhere), or if Diaz does come back - that's a pretty good two-headed monster at the back of their rotation. On the Brewers side - Tong would instantly take Freddy's spot in the Brewers rotation on Opening Day. Jett Williams and Jack Wenninger both startnext year at Nashville. With Jett's positional versatility you could probably call him up at some point next season if he's earned it. Otherwise, he's another good up-the-middle prospect for '27 and beyond to go along with guys like Pratt, Made, Pena, etc. Wenninger becomes another intriguing pitching depth option piece, and if he pitches well down in AAA next year could eventually find his way up to the big league club as well at some point in '26. Thoughts on this crazy trade proposal? And yes, I know that the odds of a big deal like this ever happening are slim to none, and slim probably already left the room. But hey, what else do we have to spend our time focusing on now that the season is over?

I definitely wouldn't hate it if Josh was added to the roster with those guys. I just prioritized those other bats since they're all further up the system from a development standpoint. But, if they want to get Josh A. some additional AB's in the AFL this year, I'm all for it.

I think this would be my AFL wish-list: Wilken Adams Quero Letson Crow (if healthy) Fitzpatrick (or another reliever profile that the org is somewhat high on)

Yeah, I know he was dealing with some back issues. In fact, I recall it was during one of his blowup performances against the Marlins at home back in late July. I thought for sure he'd be going on the IL after that, but he never did. Not that I would wish injury on anyone, but if it is Mears that is going on the IL - I could think of much worse things happening right now. He hasn't been pitching well in a while anyway.

Can someone give me a quick scouting report on K Garcia? Dude just turned 18, is a catcher….and seems to have hit the baseball well all year despite being super young! Should we be getting excited about this kid, or should I be putting in the brakes?

Thanks for the update! Would love to see Letson back and healthy again this week! Do we know the status on Crow?

I think it's just way too hard to predict at this point which teams are going to be willing to trade good SS or 3B this offseason? I do wonder though if we try to get Turang's elbow issue figured out this winter, and then see if we can't move him over to SS next year? I know he's been a gold glove 2B, and with the arm issues - maybe it's too risky of a move to SS....but I do wonder if that's potentially an option? Then, you could move Durbin over to 2B where he's probably a better fit for - both offensively and defensively. Which then of course would open up 3B. What really sucks about 3B is that I'm sure Wilken would have been up in AAA at this point had he not had the knee injury, so we would have had even a larger sample size of ABs at this point...not to mention we would have seen him at a more advanced level where he'd be one step away from the big leagues. Either way though, not sure if he would have been completely ready to take over the starting 3B job in Milwaukee to start the 2026 season? So, I think we'd be looking at a scenario heading into next year where we either need to find a 2-year stop-gap at SS or 3B (depending on what they do with Turang).

I don't disagree, but something tells me that's probably what it would take to get a guy like O'Hearn. Heck....we just gave up a top 30 prospect yesterday for a backup catcher. O'Hearn is one of the best rental bats on the market this deadline and is an All-Star this year.

What are we thinking that it would realistically take to get O'Hearn from the O's? Rental 1B/DH putting up solid numbers this year. Is this worth one of our young SP's with many years of control left (Henderson, Patrick or Myers)? Personally, I don't think it is, but I'm guessing that the O's would at least want one of them for O'Hearn. If not one of them, I think I'd be OK going with a Luke Adams and Tyson Hardin package. Would certainly sting to lose both of those guys from our system (whom I do like), but I'm guessing that's the type of package that it'll probably take to get them - if we aren't OK giving up one of the three controllable SP's mentioned above.

Whoever gets Suarez at this stage is probably going to have to do so with a massive overpay in prospect capital. At this stage, I think I would prefer that a team like the Tigers or Mariners land him, as I just don't think we can get into a bidding war here. Would love to add a power bat to this lineup, but something tells me that we can get creative in finding more power for this lineup without giving up a ton for a rental bat like Suarez. Just please keep him away from the north side of Chicago!

When is the deadline again today, and when do we think we're going to find out? Is this going to go right up to the last second?

I've seen Rice's name mentioned a few times on the boards over the past few weeks, but I guess I'm curious - why would the Yanks be so quick to move a guy like that? Did a national writer (from NY) suggest that he might be available? Aren't they going to need a 1B here soon when Goldy is gone after this season? Also, do the Yankees really want Cortes and Hoskins? Sorry - not trying to bash your trade suggestion, but I'm just having a hard time seeing a match here. But, maybe I'm not seeing it clearly?

This! 👆👆 I think the difference @Scooterfletcher here is how the two of us currently view CRod. You seem to hold him in much higher regard than I do, and what I'm guessing most GM's do. He's primarily a soft-tossing righty, and you better be able to throw the kitchen sink with impeccable command these days if you're going to make that work long term against MLB lineups. Just not sure if CRod is ever going to be that guy?

And....why does that matter? All that matters is what the trade value is for both of those guys at this moment - assuming you are wanting this proposed deal to happen here at the deadline. And at the current moment, Patrick has much more trade value than CRod.

Well, you can substitute CRod in for Henderson all you want, but there's no chance the O's are doing that deal. I'm sorry, but CRod does not have much value right now...and probably never will have much trade value. If you're getting a guy like Westburg in a trade, the package going back in return is going to have to sting. The package you outlined above just isn't strong enough to get a guy like Westburg.

Absolutely NO WAY I'm giving up two SP's with 5+ years each of control (both who have proven themselves as reliable MLB SP's this year) for two rentals in Naylor and Suarez! I realize we have more SP depth than any other organization, but we're going to need to dip into more of that depth next year when we lose Nestor, Quintana, Woody (and who knows, maybe even Freddy if we trade him?).