Jopal78

It’s about the money. In ten years a major league player can earn the generational wealth which would take all but the most successful business people a lifetime to amass. Look at when the explosion of salaries in baseball occurred (Robin Yount was MLB’s highest paid player in 1990 at 3.2 mil) and I would bet it tracks the proliferation of baseball camps, clinics, travel teams, as well as the beginnings of the increases in pitching velocity and even size/mass of the players.

The same people that buy $120 Packers tickets off StubHub for $300-$400 each. Clearly, the Brewers wouldn’t charge the prices unless they already had the research showing they can sell them at that cost, and the increase in revenue from demand pricing is enough to offset any alienation of other ticket buying fans. The reality is Brewers want to lease suites and sell expensive tickets because the people who buy them are most likely the people who also drop a pile of dough at the game on liquor, beer, merch and food. The fans who grill their own hotdogs and drink beer in the parking lot have a $28 ticket and carry in their own food from home aren’t that valuable

Judging by roster construction this last success cycle; likely a couple of homegrown players teamed with mostly players from outside the organization. 1B: Thames, Aguilar, Tellez, Hoskins 2B: Villar, Hiura, Wong, Turang SS: Arcia, Adames 3B: Shaw, Moustakas, Urias, Anderson, UTL: Sogard, H. Perez Peterson, Monasterio, Ortiz.

Well, maybe I could’ve worded it better but youre reading everything too literally so you can try to make a point. Anyways, I should’ve said once a player is in the major leagues for good. It is rare that they do not play out their six years and file for free agency. The last Brewers position player to take an extension prior to free agency. I believe was Jonathan Lucroy 10 years ago or more. Corey Hart I believe took one too. Even on the pitching side where the chance of eventually suffering a major injury is nearly 100% there have been two Brewers pitchers in the last decade to sign an extension prior to free agency The reason that the vast majority of professional baseball players are disinclined to sign contract extensions is it leaves money on the table that they could get by going year to year then filing for free agency.. As applied to Contreras, the framework of signing extension with the Brewers, is probably something he’s not inclined to do to begin with. When you factor in numbers being thrown about here are less than the top players at his position, it only makes it even more unlikely to be considered I don’t consider the Brewers to be dumb or lacking foresight. Surely, they know the players they like, and would consider extending on their terms, and likely have approached those players. The fact they do not end up signing many of those players means their overtures were most likely rebuffed.

I think you like to argue for arguing’s sake. What does Hiura have to do with anything? He wasn’t unable to stick in the majors to even acquire the service time necessary to file for free agency.

Salaries overall continue to rise and rise which drags them up across the board. So it’s not really a question of resetting the market at a position. Look at it from the perspective how many 15+ million per year players were there in the majors 5 years ago compared to now? More importantly, the conviction in one’s ability necessary to even make the majors in the first place means that very few pro ball players are going to doubt themselves enough to take less money than they could likely earn just to be “safe” against injury or underperformance. Consider the Brewers. When was the last time a Milwaukee hitter in the majors did not play out his six years and head to free agency? You probably have to go back a decade or more to Lucroy, Hart etc. Even pitchers, where the risk of eventual injury is near 100% there have been only two in the last decade in Ashby and Peralta that didn’t play out their six years and become free agents. Since the last CBA which increased player compensation there is not much reason for major league players to not go year to year and file for free agency as soon as possible. Yes there are exceptions to any rule but it doesn’t change the fact players will make more in their career hitting FA as soon as possible.

Ok, but you miss the point. At a time when salaries continue to explode, why would Contreras sign an extension with Milwaukee giving away his best earning years to make less on average than the top catchers in the game make now? They play for money; and he’d be making a boneheaded financial decision which neither helps him in the short run or the long run.

I thought the Brewers were going to have SP issues this year, but good golly the Mets SP wasn’t hot and now Paddack with nearly 50 pitches through 2 innings, Varland played in traffic all day yesterday and lasted 4 innings, I’m starting to think Milwaukee just might be okay in the SP department

Willson Contreras was 30 when he signed his 5 year deal. Murphy was 28 when he signed his six year deal. A 6 or 7 year deal now would leave Contreras coming out of contract at 33 or 34 having signed away the best earning years of his career for just 15 million AAV. (Realmuto 23 mil. AAV, Salvador Perez 20 mil. AAV, Wilson Contreras 18 mil. AAV) The Dodgers contract with Smith is unique because he has a guarantee for what is almost certainly the rest of his career, plus its front loaded as he gets 30 mil of the 140 mil up front as a signing bonus. Like any player, if the Brewers were willing to pay market rate prices they likely could sign Contreras to an extension tomorrow. However, Wm. Contreras has no logical reason to sign an extension like the proposals above. It would be for less AAV than the best catchers in the game get, and would end at the exact time most catchers experience a drop off in play

Look at Pudge Rodriguez; he was washed up as a hitter after age 32. Piazza was done behind the plate at 35, DH’d for a year and was out of the game at 36. Buster Posey retired at 34. All three are HoF or likely HoF catchers. It would be dumb to sign Contreras, or any catcher, into their mid-30s. The Dodgers have the luxury to eat the back end of that Will Smith extension or pay most of his salary in order to trade him to another team.

After his initial call up he didn’t really drive the ball much last year. Too early to say, I thought Turang wouldn’t hit enough and at the outset he’s made improvements this year.

Part of it might be besides Hoskins who do they have with some experience at first base? I don’t think they call up Black to play a couple times a week.

I don’t get it with Bauers, doesn’t really give them good at bats, hasn’t been good in his career. Can’t believe he’s still surviving on prospect hype.

Absolutely! But he only did the 1st and 2nd innings so far.

Morbid but the life expectancy for a 90 year old American male is 4+ years. In Bob’s case it’s probably more relevant that Vin Scully (another one of the all time greats) retired at 89. Ernie Harwell retired at 84, etc. It could simply be his desire to spend two months worth of summer nights calling games is waning.

Seems to me the lines to get to a QR code will make it just as time consuming as the queue to get into the lots was. Like most things this smells like nothing more than a way to maximize revenue by eliminating the cost of many of the paid parking staff, and potential revenue losses from any cash thefts by the attendants, discounts given or freebies.

Partial dislocation of the shoulder (subluxation) won’t know more until inflammation subsides. Reportedly had same injury previously and underwent surgery for it. Not a good sign.

Is Rickie Weeks with the team? In dugout shots I’ve seen injured Devin Williams and Woodruff yet haven’t seen Weeks

I saw Hall‘S final Cactus League start and his velocity was the same 92-93 which the D’Backs didn’t have problems getting the bat on. Then he started landing 76 mph breaking balls for called strikes and pitched well.

I was in Arizona last week, and after observing Hoskins play thought he was the textbook definition of someone who lumbers,

Sure, there is no more Uecker doing the pregame show in Montreal as a disgruntled French Canadian, or a multi inning story about the Furry Convention in San Diego at the Brewers’ hotel, BUT even 90 year old Uecker mistaking a player for someone else beats the other three bozos (who seemingly spend the broadcast dropping pop culture references) every single time

Mitchell won’t ever amount to anything as a major leaguer; too many injuries. Has yet to play in more than 68 games in a season since turning pro. No way to know for sure if his Type 1 diabetes plays a role in his injuries, but folks with Type 1 are more prone to fractures than the general population

You may have a point with the Acuna’s and Peralta’s who are signed as kids in the islands. But Corey Ray got nearly 5 million dollars, just to sign after being drafted, Hiura got 4 million, Frelick got 4 million dollars etc. The thought that even a 100K automobile would break those guys or the purchase of a luxury car being indicative of wasting their fortunes is kind of silly. Which also omits the likelihood that many of the cars players tool around with in Milwaukee are leases (I’m sure Turang packs his gloves and spikes into the Bentley and drives from Southern California to Arizona, then on to Milwaukee).

Look at the other active pitchers with 2 or more Cy Young awards and their AAV: Verlander—- $43 million AAV Scherzer—- $43 million AAV deGrom—- $37 million AAV Even Kershaw got a 10 million dollar guarantee and he might miss all of ‘24 and retire. If those are the comps, you might think Snell/Boras have egg on their faces, but why would Snell even consider signing a deal which would lock in his compensation for years at a rate so much less than his peers?

Tough world, Boras apparently mucked it up, AND got his guy $30 million dollars for ‘24 at the same time. Not to mention agents get paid by taking a percentage so it’s actually against his own financial interest for his clients to take one year high AAV deals. You’re right, Snell could be fizzled out in a year or two, OR he could win his 3rd Cy Young which would punch his ticket to Cooperstown. What’s Boras to do when teams that can afford 30 million AAV are risk averse or well into the luxury tax? All of his clients have extreme competitive drives or they wouldn’t be in the majors, so arguing to bet against themselves is something that’s likely given much thought. So they wait until the last minute hoping someone panics then choose the top AAV and try again next winter.