I love going to Lambeau...but I hate the drive up, the traffic and all the rest, so in that sense, I usually sell most of my tickets and only go to one game a year. I don't really find the Timeouts and all that to be the problem...it's the fans at Lambeau. You get up and stand during a 3rd down on D and you have people tapping you on the shoulder. It gets so annoying. It's an older fan base, so...I get it and maybe it's just the section I have, but it feels like you're supposed to act like you're at the Master, not an NFL game. Baseball games I love going to on like Wednesday afternoons when you had 18K people there and I can kick back. I would say it depends on the magnitude of the 3rd down. No one wants to stand for every play, people are eating/drinking and in the bleachers things are pretty tight. I do get annoyed when someone stands up in front of me every other play, must be getting old. But I am with OldSchoolSnapper on the experience at an NFL game, it's just a pain in the ass these days to go and the games are so much better on TV now than 30-40 years ago. I think the long security lines sort of were the last straw for me but I did make 2 of my games last year(gold) and had a good time, once you get to your seat it's great. What does everyone think about maybe getting Everson Griffen? Seems like a mistfit for our D but I am always hoping we move away from the 3-4 anyway.