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This makes up for losing Shane Smith to a degree. Sounds like we think more of a Koenig upside here than a harder throwing Hudson. -
I would agree for the most part however the Dodgers have some amazing teenage talent that would look great with our young guys. If we could get 1 of De Paula, Vargas, Morales, Quintero, Hope, Ko and maybe 1 of the younger starters with issues (most are hurt) Miller/Ryan/Shehan/Frasso/Hurt/Wrobleski/Hurt I could see that being a potentially really good package. Arnold could maybe even get a 3rd sweetener piece. I would definitely ask for Freeland 1st and then look at what other talent we can scrap away from them. I do think the Dodgers would be the perfect team to overpay for Devin.
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The likelihood of getting Sasaki is probably like 1%, there is just more money(advertising/long term), attention, and notoriety elsewhere. Sure we will try to get him but in reality there isn't much in Milwaukee to lure a big time foreign player. Crochet I would say maybe like 10 percent, I think our front office is doing their due diligence but I can't see us overpaying for Crochet and with the starting pitching values on the market someone is going to give up a ton for Crochet.
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What is going on 3/75 for Eovaldi, 8/218 Fried, 1/15 Wood these starting pitching prices just keep get higher. Do team not worry about starters in there late 30s any more? Fried isn't in his late 30s but will be 39 when that contract expires.
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I like most of that, but I don't get signing Austin Hays. Blake Perkins is a better overall player and way cheaper. I'd rather use the money to get someone better at 3B Drury, Drury was one of the worst players in the big leagues last year.
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The White Sox want mlb bats, my guess would be 2 of Sal/Mitchell/Perk/Black, Boeve/Adams/Wilken, and pitching prospect. I don't know if I would include Pratt, obviously the Sox would want him but I don't know if I would do an OF, Black and Pratt for 2 years of Crochet. At the deadline and Crochet want an extension which was difficult but maybe we could get creative and make an extension but in reality if we could pay Willy long term Crochet might be tough. I really have liked the idea of a 3 team for Crochet. Devin to NYY, we get Crochet, CWS get Spencer Jones (2 upper mid level prospects), Tyler Black, pitching prospect (mil) CWS need so much maybe we give them like 6 pieces like the Mike Clevinger deal once upon a time. I would love this deal. Black, Perkins, Boeve, Peguero, Hall, and Patrick We don't lose anything huge and the Sox get 3 bats, 2 starters, and a potential closer (for them).
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Agree, the closer trade market won't heat until the top 3 or 4 closer options sign but my guess is that Arnold and crew will be working like dogs doing a ton of leg work to get put trades in process with a number of teams for when Hoffman, Scott, Estevez sign. If there are any deals this week I think they will be for setting the salary up, I could see Civale being a trade early type of piece, with the prices the starters who have sign already. I wouldn't be to surprised to see a couple other bullpen pieces like Peguero or Payamps to get traded early either.
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I think some of that can come internally. I would expect Chourio to hit like 30 this year, Rhys can top 26 easily, Mitchell should probably hit 20 if he stays healthy, same for Yeli, Sal/Perk/Ortiz/Turang combined for 26 I think that should hopefully be more like 40 next year. I don't think we need to shoot for the entire 32 Willy hit but if we add a 3rd baseman it would be nice to get someone who could hit 20, but if we end up going cheap it can be sustained with furthering the good defense and baserunning over power.
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Finding the next Yeli, Contreras, Willy
jay87shot replied to jay87shot's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
Mayo has played an overwhelming amount of games the past 2 years in AAA at 3B and 12/17 last year in the bigs were at 3rd. I am guessing you meant that Mayo isn't a good enough 3rd baseman to stay there or take Westburg's PT. Mayo will be taking some 3rd base reps though unless they trade Mountcastle which is undeniably more likely than Westburg. I could also jut see them trading Mayo for Crochet and solving that whole thing. -
I don't know if there is anything to be had on that roster. Crochet and Robert won't come at a discount. Maybe Andrew Vaughn could realize some potential with a move. That is about it.
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Finding the next Yeli, Contreras, Willy
jay87shot replied to jay87shot's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
Could the O's trade Jordan Wetburg? Mayo, Henderson, Holiday, Mountcastle/O'Hearn. He isnt a great densive player but could fit in great at 3rd. They still have Urias and Mateo as depth. Would Civale, Peguero, and a decent prospect get Westburg. -
I think the Cards will get something better for Arenado straight up.
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Probably a cheaper replacement for Santander. I think that is a an overpay but for a 40 potential hr guy not crazy. They also just gave Gary Sanchez 8.5 for 1 year which seems like a lot as well. My guess is that they will add at least 1 if not 2 solid starter and some relief help.
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I would be open to Brice at short but only for a higher quality 2B. Jorge Polanco or Brendan Rodgers don't really move the needle at all to move Turang. At that value we could find a 3B, my quality line would be like Glayber. If we can get a young end bat that only profiles as a 2B I am all good with a Turang move.
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Willson Contreras, William's brother on the Cards. Keep William at C and trade for Willson. It isn't my favorite idea but I could boost the offense.
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While I am out here throwing out ideas what about Willson Contreras at 1B, if we could move Rhys cheaply I could see it working. I will be the 1st to admit I am not a big Willson fan, however his bat has been sneaky good .264/.380/.468 and he wouldn't cost much. I don't know if I am a huge believer in him at 1st but I could see him being a Carlos Santana style defender at 1st in time. It would likely be good for William and maybe motivates him to accept a cheaper extension.
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The consensus seems to be to trade Black before he loses to much value. What about instead of trading low on Black we trade high on an OF like Perkins and make Black the 4th OF? I think the general consensus has been that Black will be a good OF and his bat would offer more power and upside than Perkins. While Perkins is cheap and affordable we could get good value from a team that highly values defense. I could see the Blue Jays, Rays, and Phillies being great options among others 1)Perkins and Devin for Spencer Horowitz, Orelvis Martinez (Will Wagner preferably), and OF Alan Roden We get a 1B platoon, 3B option and a near the bigs upside OF. 2) Perk and Devin for C Eduardo Tait, P Mick Abel, and SS Starlyn Caba I am off Bohm until I see the price come down, this is just 3 solid high potential prospects for the Phillies 2 biggest needs. 3) Perk, Peguero, and P CarGo to the Rays for Yandy Diaz maybe small 2nd piece This would require Rhys to be moved but the Rays get 3 solid (cheap) pieces and save money we get a greatly needed bat to replace Willy with a couple years of affordable control. If you want you could make any of the Sal instead of Perk and add a little more value coming back.
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I feel like all 3 off these are short changing the value of Devin and/or Black. In my opinion, we should get a player like Mauricio and at least smaller 2nd piece. Devin at worst has 1/2 the value of Corbin from last year, I still also consider Black a top 100 prospect value, I know he is losing value but not to the point as a throw in like the Bohm/Jung deals.
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Cross Bohm of the list if that is the price, may it comes down later in the offseason.
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Finding the next Yeli, Contreras, Willy
jay87shot replied to jay87shot's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
I think Josh Jung comes to my mind 1st, he was great in 2023 but not much this year. The Rangers have a crowded IF and I would love to pluck him cheaply if at all possible. -
Any thoughts on if there are any quality young guys that a different team may give up on (cheaper than expected) and we could trade for a good young controllable bat. In all likelihood on the IF but feel free to mention OF. In this case I am looking for someone with some level of major league success but prospects are welcome.
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Agree with the not waiving NTC to anywhere but Cali. I think the Giants could be an interesting trade partner if the front office could work something out. We could do Yeli for Robbie Ray, Lamonte Wade, and a couple of interesting prospects and I could see everyone being happy. We get out of the scary later end of that contract and get two short term vets to help and a couple long term prospect peices. The Giants are desperate for some go bats and Yeli could fit in really nicely there and financially it doesn't affect the ledger for a couple years with Ray included. I do seriously doubt anything would realistically work, everyone is going to be to worried about his back and we will want something of quality value maybe next offseason if he can stay healthy for the majority of the year.
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Clearly the Mets and Cubs saw something in these 2 guys that makes them think they can be top of the rotation arms. For Montas, the stuff especially with the Brewers was high end even if the results weren't. For Boyd, the 8 games last year were terrific even if he didn't average 5 IP per game. I don't think there is anything that would lead someone to believe Rae is or could be more than a passible 5th starter. I do think this makes a possible Civale trade more likely because he should have more value than either guy based on results from the past 2 years. I still think there are going to be a bunch of quality starters at spring training like Lorenzen, Clevinger, and a few other last year. I would be all for trading Civale if we can get someone who is a top 10 prospect in our system and wait for a free agent hoping to sign someone for 2-4 million like John Means, Alex Cobb, Trevor Williams, Joe Ross/Jacob Junis/Wade Miley.
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I wouldnt mind the 25 year old Kim but I am not sure if he is the caliber player I would move Turang off of 2B for. I think there is some upside to him but at 5'10" I doubt the power gets much better and there will be adjustment concerns. The biggest worry is that it will probably take 5 years and that is a long time if he doesn't pan out.
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I like Rojas a bunch, as mentioned the bat isn't great but he has hit .260-.270 before which will play. My concern is that I would want to platoon, he hit .133/.224/.133 in 60 ab's vs LHP last year. Mone would be fine but our best 3B candidates in my opinion are Sal and Dunn which doesn't work. I love the ballpark data you included, I do think that the would hit better in AFF. I would love to sign him for say 3 million and still have the 2026 arby option. He probably jumps up to maybe my 1a/1b favorite cheap option with Jon Berti for 3rd. Actually we could just sign both and have a moneyball 3rd base and utility player that would likely be really effective.
