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I don't know with McCaffery, but I think that's worth the risk. They paid a premium to get him(2,3,4 in '23, 5th in '24). But what he can bring to a team, particularly in that system is huge. It's like having a really good slot receiver and RB. They can line Deebo up at RB, McCaffery at WRer and you have no idea what they're going to do. I still believe Trey Lance can be a really good NFL QB. I'd have gladly traded for him. A 4th round pick is a lot to give up for a guy who's thrown just 711 passes in HS, College and the NFL, but what he needs is to sit, learn and a good QB coach. I don't think McCarthy is a great coach(I think he's a better coach than his reputation, but still) but he did play a big role in developing a lot of different QBs. I think I'd have traded a 4th to get two years of Lance for ~2M in Base salary and let Tom Clement get his hands on him if we were in ANY other type of situation. Just break down those mechanics, build them back up like they did with Rodgers and let him run the scout team. I'm very confident in the Love/Clifford combination(insomuch as anyone can be with two QBs with 1 combined start)...but Lance's physical tools haven't gone anywhere. One thing they continually have going for them is they can pay other position because of the QBs. This year their most expensive QB will be Trey Lance and the ~9M cap hit. But Purdy is ~900K and Darnold is ~5M. I think their arrogance is a bit justified and I hope this will translate to Love, but it's a very QB friendly system. That much more when you've got a dominant LT, and weapons at both RB, WRer and TE. And of course, they added an elite DT when they signed Hargrave to go with Trent Williams. That's a whole lot of talent on that DL. They will likely have to give Nick Bosa something along the lines of 5/150. I'd guess 30M AAV and 70M fully GTD. Another reason I'd love to hear the Packers announce a Rashan Gary extension soon. His number is just going to sky rocket if he comes back and is healthy.

Any changes from today's game? Very few notable performances from players on the bubble. I'd move Ballentine into the 53, SJC off. Wilson-An ugly stat line, but the 2nd/3rd OL just didn't open any holes. I'd still keep him, but I suspect they'll start the year with 2 RBs, Taylor and Wilson on the PS. Carpenter looked better at MLBer. It's a low bar, but as he was probably going to make it for his STs ability, it's good to see. Newman had an injury, but assuming he's healthy, I think he makes the team...even if I don't think he should. The OT position is going to be interesting. I didn't notice Caleb Jones until later in the game Cox Jr looked even better. WRer-I still think the top 6 is pretty settled. If there's anyone at risk here, I'd say it'd be Toure with Dubose beating him out, but going back to all the comments by MLF and Gutekunst, that seems unlikely. I think the Packers are going to be able to develop some of these PS players, whoever it ends up being. Dubose, Chrest, Bones....I think Bo Melton has fallen out of favor. Still like the idea of developing Dre Miller. Late signing, but big physically, really fits the Packers scheme. Watson needed to make that catch on the underthrow by Love if he wants to elevate his game, but that's not a 53 man issue.

I think he pretty much solidified his spot on this roster today...not that there was much doubt as they hadn't even considered bringing in another kicker. I don't see that changing unless the Packers have a surprisingly successful season and Carlson is still struggling 2 months in. Then Crosby would be an obvious candidate assuming he doesn't sign anywhere else in the meantime.

They said it, but I didn't really see much evidence of it. Just a good swing on a FB in the minors and a bad swing on a breaking ball that fooled him in the Big leagues. I'm not stating the premise is wrong. I just don't know that it's right. My untrained eye says if you slow it down, stop even the first one, a bad swing, at 3 seconds, or just as the pitch is delivered and he looked balanced, hands are coming through, he's not opening up...but I'm also not a hitting guru. A lot of moving parts makes being a consistent hitter tougher for most players. That seems obvious. The bat waggle and the big step work for some(Bonds, Sheff) and others struggle with it. I just don't know if Wiemer needs an overhaul or if he's just a young player with big tools who has had a tendency to adjust slowly to the next level and if that's what is happening here at the highest level.

I still know of Packers fans who think Favre should have finished his career in GB... So the Packers way of drafting their successor toward the end of their great QBs career(which they've done twice, so maybe not an MO yet) may always be unpopular with some fans. I just want Rodgers to stop acting like an annoying Ex telling everyone how much he loves his new team and was ready to leave GB when he wanted to come back and ONLY chose the Jets when the Packers approached the Jets and they were the only team that wanted him in the AFC. But we'll make up and move on. It'll be much easier if Love has more success in the playoffs than Rodgers.

I was JUST chatting with a 49ers fan on Twitter asking if Lynch was actually a good GM or if he came into a good situation and then just hired a good coach and...he didn't have an answer for me. Look at their best players. Williams-Washington was done and they gave up draft capital for him. Bosa-Obvious pick for them. Kittle-Not on their team. But then they DID go out and get Warner, Deebo, Aiyuk, Hufanga(he was a 6th rounder). Their firsts are...uneven at best, but where they're good, they're REALLY good. And they trade for players like McCaffery and again, great coach. I think Lynch is more 2nd half Ted Thompson career in terms of drafting. Early misses, late round hits here and there...some have to be lucky. Brock Purdy'? But they're a really good team. Go look at the Eagles drafts year by year. Those weren't pretty either. But they found some studs in strange places, so...I don't know. Roseman has been outstanding the last couple years though. No question about that.

I don't know...I just remember Tony Gwynn basically saying he doesn't care about any of the stance or what happens until the pitch is delivered and he wants to see guys balanced in their load and their bat staying in the hitting zone. Looks like he's doing that to me, but...I'm no hitting coach. I know EVERY time I watch a game with my Old Man I hear how much he hates Wiemer's stance(same with Weeks). The more movement, obviously the more you need to do in order to get your timing down.

THAT is really cool to see. I haven't any updates on Yeager for a while. I thought he was likely having TJ.

I actually hope he had a forearm injury. Getting 2022 Rowdy back would be great. We're gonna need a couple other guys to really get going if we don't wanna be a one and done again. Get him back, Adames is hitting the ball hard. Frelick and Turang are having good ABs. You don't need to be the '27 Yankees, just timely hits at the right time. I'm pretty sure there's been a WS team just about every year the last 10-20 years that people dismissed at this time of the year.

Agreed. Both on the pitchers(target those types) and on Glasnow. A 3 team trade and taking back Glasnow is too convoluted IMO. Shane Baz is a guy I'd consider. I'm not afraid of pitchers with TJ or returning from TJ. I'd ask for a top 50 prospect or higher to move him, otherwise, just run it back. It's gonna get expensive with all these guys getting into their 3rd year of arbitration(or 4th year).

Newman was much better last week than the previous week or Family Night. We might be too hard on him based on how bad he looked at RT, but he's a solid backup, but it'd be nice to break the string of 3rd rd busts with Rhyan....who's also gotten snaps at Center.

I don't think it's worth rostering 2nd kicker and you'd have to waive him to get him onto the PS. I also don't think he'll be more ready to kick Oct 10th than Sept 10th. I think he just needs to go through it. There's always a few guys we sweat that end up on the PS. I'm guessing the fringe roster guys who are most likely to be cut are being shopped right now. Again, Royce Newman. He got 43 snaps last week. Maybe that's to play some center or perhaps it's more about showcasing him(though he's got two years on tape). If Rodgers were still here, I'd be mostly concerned about losing Heath/Wicks as you know Cobb would be on the team and we'd be a bit handcuffed, but there aren't many guys I'm too worried about. Even Cox. We're DEEP there and Enagbare has looked great. Van Ness doesn't offer much in the way of pass rush, but he's been stout vs the run(again, very similar to a young Gary). Hollins has had two good grades the last two weeks. Wilson is the only guy I don't want to see gone and he's also probably safe as a RB, but I'd still protect him. I just feel like he could slide in so easily next year as our starting RB or our #2 and replace Dillon.

I don't think I'd list QB 2 as a weakness. I think Clifford has come in and played out of his mind. I think you'd be in a better place with a backup than we've been the majority of the time since Favre took over. He's really the perfect backup IMO. Smart, gutsy, he's mobile so he can pick up yards with his legs. If he was a couple years younger and had a bigger arm, then I think the Love vs Clifford debate would have some validity to it, but...I don't see a problem there. And I think the fact that we're likely not a SB team is all the more reason to go with 2 QBs. Why spend the money to bring in a...Carson Wentz? The 3rd QB has to be worth a roster spot and I don't see one that is. Carlson, same idea. I think he just needs to get in games and kick. It's like a fielder throwing the ball. You can tell on the kicks he misses, he's aiming it. I'd say shortarming it in baseball, but the follow through doesn't look natural. When he just lets it go, he's got a massive leg and it's impressive. And it's straight. I haven't got the first clue what to do about safety though. Actually...I do, but Joe Barry has said Douglas to Safety is not going to happen. Anthony Johnson played 40 snaps last game. Hopefully they find something there.

I'm just saying, if he's really figured it out...if we've worked out any kinks in his armor or if he's locating, can you have too many guys with that type of pure stuff? IF that were true, he'd have to be one of the best 14. MAYBE over Houser? Eh, it's unlikely. He'd have to REALLY be pitching better for it to make sense.

I keep forgetting Lauer. He's been a very nice pitcher for us. I suspect he'll be a non-tender candidate, but I still feel pretty good about him. Especially in this type of role. I'd even feel alright about Carlos Rodriguez. It's not Devin Williams, but he's got a nasty change with that FB that I'd think plays up a bit in short outings. And he's been healthy and getting his innings in all year. Ashby might be a bit wishful thinking. I've said from the start, he's too important of a player to bring him back unless he is 100%. Unless he's throwing in the upper 90s with normal soreness and there is no more risk to injury in that shoulder than there is with anyone else. When talking about the future, he's a guy that gets left out when people say we'll have "no pitching," in '25. His stuff is as good as anyone on the team.

I think another lefty would make more sense. Gasser is locked and loaded. Or Ashby who's reportedly close to coming back(back as in able to start rehab outings). Milner needs a counterpart and Chaffin does not appear to be it.

Not sure if I was a believer or just an optimist, but I see an arm like Megill or Vieiera and I just believe in the Brewers ability to get the most out of them. It's certainly not a given(see Erceg, Guerra) but it works often enough that it's hard to not get VERY excited about it when it does happen. IF-IF he's figured it out and can become a HL reliever...or even a guy who comes into the game in the 5th inning with men on 2nd and 3rd and get a K and then a fly ball, that's a massive luxury. Uribe and Megill have this pen looking a WHOLE lot better.

I used to work at an insurance company and they were so...over the top obnoxious, they made a point to NOT put any paper in recycling. This was just out of College, but it was literally...hundreds of pieces of paper a day and they insisted it "all goes to the same place." So I feel you on this one. Just the huge folders....aside from the ones that were supposed to go in the lock box or whatever(a locked box with SS numbers on them where we'd have a company come each day and pick it up to dispose of it). Of course soda cans and bottles, all ended up in there. Some people make a concerted effort to do exactly the opposite of what you ask of them.

I think MOST people thought it'd be Ruiz last off-season. I don't get the same feeling that we need to move a guy this off-season. If we get an offer like we did for Ruiz for...Mitchell, I'd jump all over it, but barring that, 3 OF spots, 1B/DH...I don't think we should. I think they all compliment each other well. Chourio-every day; Frelick-mostly every day; Mitchell 50% until he proves he can hit lefties. Wiemer 80% until he proves he can hit righties better. But Ruiz was a guy we all had #4 and I think most viewed as a #5 OFer. These 4 have much more upside. Oh, and Blake Perkins is a rookie. I could see him helping over the next several years as well. He's a nice player. Tyrone Taylor...eh, I'd probably move on there.

Another arm that can add with Uribe and McGill I guess I should have scrolled up. The answer seems to be yes. Williams/Payamps/Peguero/Uribe/Milner/McGill/Vieira/Wilson This group would make Kevin Cash and his stable of horses blush!

This is probably closer to the final 53. I'm still skeptical Wilson makes it, much as I'd like him to. -Jones back and practicing is big. It's tough with guys who are 6'9 370 pounds. I may have been thinking too much about Becton's injuries and how his injuries have been longer just due to the size(And the Packers secrecy). -Tenuta, I don't think you'll be able to put him on the PS with a "significant injury." I still believe you put Allen on the PS, and Tenuta on the 53, then on IR rather than pay him for half a season or whatever it may be, and risk losing him altogether. I don't think there's any real risk in Allen being claimed(and MLF just said they're comfortable going with "just" 3 TEs). So you could promote him for a couple weeks until another roster spot invariably opens up. I also like Ballentine, again, now that we know it was a minor injury. Newman and then Wilson would be the most likely to be claimed(if they go 2 at RB which again, I think they may). Dre Miller is one guy I'd really keep an eye on. Not for a 53, but he's just got Packer WRer written all over him. 6'3 230 TE/WR hybrid. Big hands, good speed, strong...and despite signing late, he's playing more snaps on STs than any other WRer.

Right, it sounds like Tenuta is out for a while. A couple months. But I'm still skeptical they'll want to lose him. I missed the news from Tuesday that Jones was back, Hanson was out. That's good news and makes it more likely that Telford is waived and placed on the PS. To be clear, I don't think Hanson is a good player, I was more making the point that he was their backup C and a team virtually always carries multiple centers...which is why JRJ, Tom and Newman were getting PT there most likely. I think Heath has to be a roster lock(or as close as an UDFA can be) at this point. Just more evidence that 40 times are grossly overrated. His speed, short area quickness, all of it grades out as poor, but he plays faster. I love watching that guy play.

I definitely wasn't thinking he'd hit 45HRs or have big time power(though, you never know, very few project to hit for average and THAT type of power). It just seemed like their scouting reports were similar. Brown does have lightening quick hands, so...maybe the power becomes a 45/50?

Thanks. I think I've been a little lower on him than I should, but he could still make an outstanding 2B at the MLB level(I understand he's a SS, but he's not a Turang level defender from what I understand and have seen...which again, isn't much). AA is like...midterms. You get an idea of how we'll you're doing before then, but if you ace your midterms or do well, there's a pretty good chance you'll do well on the finals(unless you're held back several years). So I guess hope for the best next year. Still a pretty good walk rate and even if the SLG doesn't get back up to .450 or so, if he's hitting ~.260/.360 and playing good defense up the middle, stealing bags...those players always have value.

Is something clicking for Vieira? He's been dominant the last two months...and the whole year for that matter outside 3 outings in June. Another guy with a 100MPH FB, a splitter, whatever he's throwing now, but from scouting reports, he threw 5 pitches...very few accurately, but the Brewers tend to do well with those types.