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You realize projection and estimation are the same things, right? And with respect, that YOU may not be around to see what the Brewers do with all their young prospects, Chourio, Misiorowski, Quero, Black, Frelick, etc...that's not a good reason to just trade them. Your comments about the dismissiveness about the "FUTURE" which is in quotes for some reason(it is a real thing and not just some abstract theory)...is too much for me to even address.
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Pretty sure ONE of those players was a deadline deal. It's amusing to me how you're simultaneously upset about trading for a really good reliever for...no discernible reason, but also upset about NOT trading for...someone else. Who's that someone? Don't know. And when it comes to trade deadline talks, talking about prospects who were busts is the lowest form of "debate" IMO. Because David Green wasn't great, we should trade Jackson Chourio! That....makes absolutely no sense, but sure.
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I'll have to look for it. I'm confused why the hell we're Upset about trading a 28 year old rookie who apparently have a big fastball...at 92.5MPH while upset about trading for a veteran LHPer like Chaffin who has been a very good reliever...but is a soft tosser...at 92.1 MPH. Also...why we're talking about the Brewers.
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Yes...as am I. That was my entire point.
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Also Drew Pomeranz as has been mentioned. How about Salamon Torres🤣 But of course none of these have ANYTHING to do with Chaffin and the Brewers didn't give up a prospect for him. Chaffin BTW, 3.13 FIP this year.
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You say it's never happened and when I show you when it happened you just dismiss it and shift the argument. But fine. How did they acquire All Pro's Cambell and Nixon? Or Douglas? You DO realize they were spending over 310 million on players salaries while the salary cap was 215, right? And I genuinely don't understand what difference it makes if they're on the roster right now, nor do I care if they didn't go out and sign a couple of older WRers, one who hasn't played in well over a year. Why isn't Julio Jones on your list? And "literally wasted?" No...they didn't "literally waste it." You're upset that after they spent roughly 200M in Free Agency to go with an expensive core(not the least of which because that HOF QB took every penny they left on the table) they didn't go on a big FA spree when they were 60M over the cap heading into the off-season? Is there some type of ignore option available? Some of this is painfully ridiculous to read.
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Yeah,...not to take this WAY off topic, but remember when they went out and signed Za'Darius Smith, Preston Smith, Adrian Amos and Billy Turner while just missing out on Allan Robinson the year before the salary cap went DOWN due to Covid? That was as aggressive an off-season as Wolf ever had in Free Agency.
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Still in the low 90s in Nashville where he posted a 7+ ERA. Velocity usually "gets fixed," by getting healthy, maybe a different type of off-season workout. Generally not in-season. But with all the arms we have, this doesn't seem to be one to be wringing our hands over.
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No, more like, "huh...not sure that person even knows what they're upset about," type amusing. Wouldn't say hilarious.
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Lets maybe see how he throws the rest of this year. We were making the exact same declarations about Wong a year ago at this point(for example)...and we've still got a lot of regular season Baseball and the post-season coming up...hopefully.
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Ok...again, the contradictions here are a bit amusing. So Chaffin having an ERA blow-up game makes you LESS confident about him(Despite a longer history of success)...but Strzelecki having a serious of bad outings after a nice start to the year and posting an ERA of ~5(NOT including the two games he gave up runs after that .66 ERA start, one of which was also a 5 ER game) then you like the possibilities? I don't get this. Strzelecki had a series of bad outings and lost his FB velo. He went to AAA and had a 7+ ERA. Beyond all that, I'd say the Brewers tend to get the most out of their pitchers.
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What exactly constitutes a "hard throwing reliever," in MLB in 2023? Because to MY mind a 92 MPH FB does not constitute a "Hard thrower."
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I don't recall a trade I hated so vehemently and so immediately than the Norris trade. I definitely went with the, "I'm sure the Brewers know something I don't," rationalization, but while normally true, not so in this case. I did not like that Tristan Peters trade. Wasn't a huge fan of the Bush for Kelly trade, but...there was at least reason to think Bush was good.
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I don't know who "booed" you here, but I've said we need another reliever. I've seen probably 20 others say we need another reliever. There were threads about Hader that got I guess "booed" because they were kinda ridiculous, but even in those people agreed that it'd definitely help the Brewers. I just can't stand the "I told everyone and you all didn't agree," posts....I hate them more when there is no merit to it and then that much more when you're not even proven right yet.
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Except they weren't hard throwing relievers. They were....lower 90s type relievers. If they were still throwing in the mid to upper 90s, they're probably both still in the pen, but something seems off with both of them
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I'd send Turang down. Miller's a nice defender at 2nd, Turang's isn't hitting... The swing is nice, good bat skills, speed, defense, just seems to be pressing(like most of the team).
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Yes, he's a very good player. He's not the type of player you trade Chourio, Quero, Misiorowski+ for. That player is...Soto from last year or...I don't even know who. We all know he's a very good player. It's an absurd trade though.
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So exactly how do YOU come up with your valuations? LOL...in what world do you think the Brewers would trade Chourio ALONE for Kim...and that's before you double down on the absurd and throw in Quero or Misiorowski. There's a very good reason this is the deal that "Nobody is talking about." It's because...it is ridiculous. This very much feels like Clancy, but the exact opposite.
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Jake Cousins gone
BrewerFan replied to Jim French Stepstool's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
Eh, his FB had dropped into the low 90s from what I saw. Even with a really good slider, I think you need more velo than that to be a high leverage reliever. I was more upset about losing guys like Guerra, Erceg...Varland, pitchers like that. But hope Cousins can get going yet. -
They've got all this on Bref...which I'm sure you knew. https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=fielde001pri Prince "struggled," a bit at AA...which is not unexpected at age 20...and it wasn't really struggling, just relative to his normal production. 272/.366/.473 .839 28 HRs, 577 PAs, 497 ABs, 65 BB(I guess 15 HBP or sac flies). I guess in contrast to Chourio, it was a pretty great season for Prince. .285/.343/.483 .827 16 HRs I'd love to see Chourio walk like ~12% of the time, but the guy is such a stud on the bases, in the OF...just all around. I wonder where Chourio is going to end up as his season line looks like an EKG RIGHT after they yell clear...
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I'm again not only not buying that it was the tacked balls that made Chourio look...just normal, nor the idea that "so many" were trying to impugn him. Black and Quero were raking all year long. Chourio was just a 19 year old kid in AA and it took him a few months to figure it out. The league as a whole...so far as I saw was striking out less with the tacked ball. I just think there are some who have dug into REALLY bad arguments about Latin American players and jumped Chourio for being merely good while making the biggest jump in levels of competition. I'd say on this whole board I saw maybe 2 people use the first half of the season to doubt Chourio and I don't believe either have stopped. Now, if I do have any of those facts wrong and AA is hitting that much better post-tacked ball, I guess that would just make me that much more excited for the other 2 top 100 prospects in Biloxi.
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I'm still genuinely in awe the Brewers haven't given Hiura another shot. A new stance, new swing. Looks like he's on time. He has to be a little bored at AAA, but he's more than earned another shot given Winker has been our DH and when he's not, it's often been Cartini. It's really just inexcusable. Lets say he "only" puts up a 750 OPS and strikes out 40% of the time. THAT is a massive upgrade on Winker.
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It's amusing to me to watch Mets fans just FREAK OUT at Buck keeping Vogie in the DH spot...while we keep rolling out Winker rather than giving Hiura a shot. Imagine this team with the New York market....minus the ~400M going toward players salaries!
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I don't think either is going to require top prospects. I'd think Oakland would be the type of team that'd have some interest in Zamora. A good defender who gets on base, has speed and can play SS, 2B and 3B. But again the problem I see is the Brewers are lacking the type of prospects teams are looking for that they'd be willing to part with. The top guys are off the table for a prospect like either of these guys. And then nobody wants to trade a guy like Baez or Yophery Rodriguez for a rental...just to watch them potentially climb through someone's system en route to to becoming a top 100 prospect. So it's Justin Jarvis, Freddy Zamora, maybe Carlos Rodriguez(CF), Ethan Small...who likely has little value.
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Rooker is a 28 year old who's hitting for the first time though. That makes me a bit skeptical. Not that you're going to find a perfect player on the market.
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