Turning2
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Assuming health and if MIL was intent on it, I could live with that. Williams seemed like an odd piece to acquire and perhaps was only added to be part of a deadline trade package. Lara potentially adds an upgrade to Frelick and Perkins in the Brewers current situation, but do we need yet another small, fast, defensive guy who may or may not be able to hit MLB pitching? Do any of the big market teams trot out 5'7" outfielders? I'm familiar of Letson as a standout in the lower affiliates but seems like there are a number of guys like that. Still think a bigger, veteran bat is more of a priority.
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Not a big fan of trading for a pitching rental coming off an injury. On the positive, that might keep the trade price down some. I see the appeal, just would prefer a bigger bat
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Giants (Roupp) vs Brewers (Drohan): 6/1/26, 6:40pm
Turning2 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Archived Game Threads
Thought the same thing. I would be livid -
Giants (Roupp) vs Brewers (Drohan): 6/1/26, 6:40pm
Turning2 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Archived Game Threads
Yeli with a clutch walk -
Giants (Roupp) vs Brewers (Drohan): 6/1/26, 6:40pm
Turning2 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Archived Game Threads
Hamilton was an excellent utility upgrade -
Giants (Roupp) vs Brewers (Drohan): 6/1/26, 6:40pm
Turning2 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Archived Game Threads
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Isn't it at least partially a mentality issue?
Turning2 replied to Turning2's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
LOL, yes I can get long winded. True, we are stuck with managing expectations. That doesn't address the mental aspect of the players involved though. Rightly or wrongly, fans can reach the "just glad we made the playoffs" submission mindset. I don't want the guys I cheer for to adopt that perspective, however. Maybe they don't. Sure looks like it sometimes though. -
The Dodgers are in the Brewers head in my view. At least somewhat. It happens. The Packers have (some might say "had"?) owned the Bears for decades. The Yanks owned the Twins in the early 'OO's. No doubt, LA's favored MLB son status allows them to spend on talent with impunity. That can't be entirely overlooked nor entirely blamed for their cat and mouse toying with MIL. However.... its not just the illegitimate "competition" which MLB Inc and the Players' Union foists upon small market fans. One star player on a team with no spending limits may make 3-4x what a star player on a small market team makes. That does not mean that the one guy is 3-4x as talented. At some point, it comes down to not only talent, but heart, determination, mental fortitude, and pride. They could use a little more leadership, more emotion driven by competitive indignation now and then. That's not a clubhouse cancer. That is a guy fed up with settling for being "the bridesmaid but never the bride" so to speak. This team does not have a leader everyone looks to and can count on to produce and spur the others when the chips are down against the elite payrolls. They were beat last night after the Tucker triple and Pages HR. The team has grit. That is indisputable. They can come back from that kick to the competitive balls by the Cubs, Padres, DBacks etc... but not L.A. Sure, there might be an exception here and there on that. The Dodgers have the best All Star pitching staff money can buy. They have a bevy of the best hitters money can lure. It's insulting and ridiculous. It's the reality of today's illegitimate MLB structure. But you can't tell me that L.A.'s roster overall is 3-4x more talented. I doubt it's even twice as talented overall. The Brewers' Goliath conundrum with L.A. is at least partially mental. When they can't dictate the flow of the game by "drag'em" at bats, often resulting in weak infield dribblers aided by speed, bunting, forced errors and timely hitting, followed up by top defense, and solid pitching.... they are cooked. That is overcome by pursuing a couple of reliable veteran power bats that have come from a different clubhouse culture. That requires a front office willingness to sacrifice what you can afford to sacrifice - namely... prospect capital, Milwaukee's default is to resist the age old wisdom of "a bird in hand is better than two in the bush". They have an obsessive preference with their young talent in the minors over proven, "better than mediocre" quality MLB players. They know full well that most of their supposedly deep farm system will not become above average to star major leaguers. But they can afford them. They use them to tease us fans along with their potential. This is how we end up with the "meh" rosters of over hyped prospects like Mitchell, Frelick, Black etc. It's effective enough to keep fans emotionally invested ("entertained"). It sells tickets, merch and overpriced concessions which keeps the ownership investors in the black and MLB INC healthy. It makes suckers out of small market fans who expect a level playing field but continue to bend over and take it because they love the game. We have no power or choice other than to divorce our financial support from the game that many of us love and still want to believe has integrity. Drug cartels profit handsomely, live in opulence by leveraging addiction against their clients too. To sum up.. the Brewers aren't mentally tough enough, are fighting an insulting set of financial tied competitive circumstances, and the unholy alliance of the MLB investors AND the Players Union laughs all the way to the bank while taking us all for the addicted suckers we are in small market America.
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Maybe you don't understand the overall gist of my post. I have edited it a bit. I enjoy the team. I give them credit for fighting the intellectually insulting uphill battle they face against the league financial framework. They are competitive and contenders which is far better than being a perpetual cellar dweller with no hope. But the bridesmaid eventually wants to be the bride otherwise she stops being excited to be asked to be second in line. At some point, a man requires a climax to the situation or finds another interest. The Brewers are second only to the Padres in oldest franchises never to have won a World Series. The financial environment, the league playoff system and divisional set up has changed since SD was formed in '69 and the Brewers a year later. One helped the small market teams (expanded playoffs bracket), and one devastated them (the financial sea changes of the Players' Union driven CBAs). At the end of the day... it's going to take a miraculous alignment of serendipity in order for MIL to win a championship. In today's world, attention spans grow shorter and shorter. Some of us old timers still hang in there, but MIL's business plan of stringing people along being "close but no cigar" will only play so long. There are a lot of younger generation Brewer "fans" who are only there for the spectacle, the attractions, the circus rather than the nuts and bolts of baseball. They will only be teased along for so long too before a brighter social media butterfly comes along.
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It's just another close but no cigar roster. They have just enough talent, chemistry, coaching to compete, to sell tickets, to keep fans invested and buying merch, and most importantly ... to keep the books of the investment group in the black and withing the targeted profit margin. It was my contention that this season was a deferral to get past the lockout and to reach the maturation of a handful of prospects. The lack of meaningful offensive offseason upgrades supports that. They made roster changes, but didn't alter the makeup of the roster. They mostly switched guys out for other guys of the same makeup. Those moves perhaps added incremental upgrades overall. Again, I believe they are hoping those incremental upgrades blossom simultaneously with the maturation of some prospects, and thus ... kind of a placeholder season. Truly competing for a championship this season would require moves to upgrade for known offensive talent. They need at least one outfield position upgrade and probably 2. Obviously they need more competitive offense from either 3B or SS. And that's not going to happen this year. I'm mostly content that they can compete and be entertaining for several months in a league financial framework that is stacked against them. As long as they don't become dogs (in the 10+ games below .500 range) with no hope I can continue to tepidly support the MLB INC / Player's Union machine.
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Mitchell is a bigger disappointment than Sal in my book at this point. Where is the HR pop for GM? Maybe they will both turn it around soon.
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Your 2026 Wisconsin Timber Rattlers
Turning2 replied to Jim Goulart's topic in Brewers Minor League Talk
Is there a somewhat "typical" timeframe in the season for when guys get bumped up to AA if they're going to get moved? Last year, I wanted to see Burke and managed to just catch his last game. Thinking of maybe a June trip, hoping to see most of those position players. -
Your 2026 Wisconsin Timber Rattlers
Turning2 replied to Jim Goulart's topic in Brewers Minor League Talk
Lots of intriguing prospects at this level this year. I'm a several hours drive away also. Hoping to take a mini vacation weekend drive with my fam and maybe a couple other friends. -
I've been in Black's corner for the past couple years. Nice to see him get regular playing time and produce. It's weird that he is still in somewhat on the bubble because they don't believe in his defense anywhere. Seems odd that a (prominently) non power bat can travel all the way through the minors without having enough glove to be trusted by a big league club. Perhaps that is more specific to MIL though since they put a premium on defense more than some other teams.
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A rare pitching lab project acquisition that hasn't panned out so far and may not. Didn't like to see Mears and Collins go, but gave them the benefit of the doubt that this was a good trade. Yes, I'm aware Collins isn't exactly tearing it up, but Baddoo and Matos offered less. And I'd rather have Mears than Zerpa.
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Biggest weakness is a shortage of healthy All Star caliber talent. Yeah, that's pretty obvious, but it's hard to pinpoint an area. They CAN score runs. Collectively, the offense hasn't been that bad. But who wouldn't want another consistent .275+ / 30+HR leader on this team. Who wouldn't want another .280-ish hitter good for lots of doubles? Pitching is still largely unproven. Priester could have been a fluke in '25. Mis isn't proven yet as a consistent, grizzled vet yet. Woody is always a health risk and a short timer. And then you have another 7-8 guys that are little more that hype, hope, and prospect potential, and will be in my view for awhile. I need two consecutive better than average years before I get sold on a player. Too many froth at the mouth about prospect status. Yeah, they have to come from somewhere, top prospects bomb too. They have speed aplenty, but speed that can't get hit is worthless. They have defense. Shaky lately, but I suspect that will level out. Regardless, great defense wins you division championships not the big prize. I do think there might be a "swagger / confidence" aspect they are deficient in. But swagger/confidence tends to equate to jerk personalities, and I'd rather my team lose with quality humans than egomaniac jag offs. So biggest weakness... impossible to say in my opinion.
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True, but also .... not necessarily true. The long run isn't guaranteed to pay off. It's subjective if getting 2 or 3 serviceable guys or prospects (and lots of service time years) who "might" become somebody special is worth 1 All Star (or near All Star) caliber player. Every team has serviceable guys and good prospects in their farm system. Don't need to trade for them. Just shows how overvalued the prospect hype can be sometimes. Early results point to Harrison as a good get from Boston, but I'd have rather they just shipped Durbin and Mona or Seigler for Duran to bolster the OF. But again, I think they are setting themselves up for after the lock out rather than 2026.
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I feel they will turn it around eventually and at least be respectably competitive. Said previously, I felt like they were positioning themselves for post lock out and that 2026 was kind of a mail it in season. They did nothing to help the offensive power, and they brought in more young, unproven pitching. The latter will have this year to get some seasoning for post lockout ball. Trading off some of the best players in exchange for a handful of prospects is a gamble. Sometimes you lose that gamble. Perhaps that is catching up with them alongside the injuries. They need more trades in a 1:1 mode - proven player for proven player. Easier said than done I realize.
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Too many of the same type of complimentary players in the OF.
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Chourio to IL with left hand fracture, Perkins recalled
Turning2 replied to markedman5's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Sure, I get that all. I care about the players as people too. However, there are priorities and risk managements that supersede emotion when dealing with multimillion dollar assets in my view. Just a difference of opinion. How would you feel if Chourio tore up a shoulder sliding into base, or ripped up a knee crashing into a wall and was lost for the season?

