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How often has that happened, though? The Brewers are winning games because their bullpen is performing well OUTSIDE of just Hader. Sanchez and Boxberger have been exactly what you want from the middle-inning guys.

I really liked the old 'circle numbers' jerseys they used a few years back that were different than the straight blue & yellow ones they've used since the retro jerseys were a thing: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/25/2014/11/cd0ymzcznguwzdbhnduynddiytjhm2yyzthlmtjjotqwyyznptnmmwmwmzczntu1ytu5odi1ogqymzjjzwu1zmyymdni-e1416178065626.jpeg The ones this year look like weird Oregon Ducks jerseys.

I really do wonder, if the Dodgers do get bounced in a WC game, the Brewers probably end up with the best NL World Series odds, right?

I think it was hard to fairly evaluate both the Norris and Curtiss acquisitions based on their early performances, because the COVID situation in the bullpen immediately required them to be put into situations that they weren't intended to have to throw in. We'll get to see and more fairly evaluate Curtiss next year, but I'd expect Norris's numbers to stabilize as he's now used more as he was intended.

Biiiiiig break there.

The Rockies appear to have so successfully created a team built to win at Coors that they're truly terrible at winning anyplace else. Bewildering.

Yeah, building a team & making supporting acquisitions of a type of player, then complaining that the team doesn't do basically the opposite is the epitome of cluelessness from an owner.

Yeah that's going to go over real well with his players. Makes you appreciate Mark A, Stearns, etc and how well they run the Brewers. [sarcasm]But Cohen SPENDS MONEY![/sarcasm]

Pitching and defense....

49ers cut Josh Rosen. From a top 10 pick to a early camp cut in just a few seasons. What a weird road he's had....

Yiadom was a 3rd rounder a few years ago by Denver. Traded for a late-rounder to NY last year. Basically just a guy, but maybe the Packers like him in their scheme. I had held out hope that Jackson might get a fresh start in a new coordinator's scheme, but he clearly needed a fresh start elsewhere based on how terrible he looked Saturday. Such an unexpected bust.

Quite possibly the best thing that could have happened to the Reds today.

The Brewers really had to choose between Vogelbach and Shaw and clearly chose Vogelbach. He does have value in September as a 27-th man after rosters expand to provide PH power off the bench. But, that opportunity may lead to all of a dozen or two ABs, which isn't all that important. He's good enough insurance for a Tellez injury or such, so I'd imagine they'd like to keep him around just in case.

I'm disheartened that presenting an opposing viewpoint that highlights the high probability of success of the Brewers and the statistical improbability of some of the doom and gloom scenarios that some are worried about is viewed as 'stirring the pot.' But, at this point it seems like it's pointless to continue to make the point to people, as the argument has been laid out there clearly for those that want to hear it. As such, I have no issues bowing out of your ongoing conversation. The subsequent part of your post does suggest that you continue to not believe what the math is showing. Which, as I've said, is fine. You do you. But for the benefit of anyone else concerned about how realistic the possibility is that the Reds will overtake the Brewers this season, the fact remains that the division race is, essentially, over statistically. Does that mean it's impossible to blow it? Nope. Just that it's something that would literally happen less than a handful of times every 100 seasons, and hasn't happened in actuality in 26 years. Whether that's something you want to focus on for the next 6 weeks or not is up to you.

This is where sites like the one you cite do a bit of a disservice by conveniently listing these probabilities side-by-side in a handy chart for reference- the calculation and variables that go into the numbers are wholly different. For example, for any division race, the n is 5. There can only be five possible outcomes. As the season moves on, the number of possible outcomes is gradually reduced due to the outcomes of the games- IE, in the NL Central at this point, there are now three truly possible outcomes. From there, the giant lead the Brewers have over the other two more or less leads to the probabilities. For World Series odds, you start at 30, and whittle it down from there. As of today, there are STILL 14 teams with a 'chance' per that site of winning the WS. Obviously, by the time the Brewers play in the playoffs, if all holds constant for Milwaukee, four of those teams won't make the playoffs and their odds will get dispersed among the others. By the time the Brewers would play their first game in the playoffs, two of the WC teams would be out as well. If one of those losing WC teams was the Dodgers, then the Brewers' WS odds balloon. So, results-based variability remains because you have to factor in the outcomes of the series. IE, the Brewers WS odds are much lower if the Dodgers are still in the playoffs vs. not in, even if the Brewers aren't involved in ousting them. Hence, WS odds are great in that it shows that the Brewers are one of the favorites. But, it's a whole different statistical animal to project them at this point in the season than it is the division race at this point, which basically has three possible outcomes, which are essentially 'weighted' by record. Hence, statistically over.

Ok? If by 'regally above the discussion' you mean that my understanding of statistical probabilities will keep me from wringing my hands over the next 6 weeks? No claim has been made that you can't believe the contrary. Just noting the fact that the division race is basically over to try and keep you from developing an ulcer. But, if you care to disagree with the statistics, that's your prerogative, I guess.

Cubs aren’t looking to get better for the rest of this season Which is obviously the right call for the franchise, but the 'became Cubs fans circa 2015' part of their fanbase won't get it. I do admire the Cubs' FO for seemingly doing the 'right thing' with their tear down in spite of what must be brutal pressure to try and maintain a respectable team.

I think the continual issue here is that one of the sides of the views on this is backed by overwhelming statistical evidence, and the other requires a massively unlikely set of scenarios to unfold. As such, thinking that may actually happen requires a pretty grim view of the team's future performance, and I don't think there should be surprise that that grim view is viewed skeptically as a result. So, yes. The division is statistically over. As others noted, the Reds and their fans have moved on to the wildcard, which is statistically more probable for them, and it's probably healthier for us to view it much the same.

When you repeatedly post reasons why something could happen despite statistical improbability, then challenge the validity of said statistical improbability, it's because at least SOMEPLACE in your consciousness or subconscious mind, you're thinking that it's going to happen. Again, just IMO. Thank you Dr. Freud. Welcome, I'll send a bill shortly. It's a lot like the guy in High School that admits that he doesn't have a chance with the hottest girl in school, yet continues to mention all the scenarios where she might say yes. When you keep talking about ways it could happen despite insisting that it probably won't, it's because you actually think it will. Again, sadly the nature of a lot Wisconsin sports fans currently.

When you repeatedly post reasons why something could happen despite statistical improbability, then challenge the validity of said statistical improbability, it's because at least SOMEPLACE in your consciousness or subconscious mind, you're thinking that it's going to happen. Again, just IMO.

On the fumble- liked that he sensed the pressure enough to step up, as you noted. Disliked that he didn't feel it enough to avoid the TO. Thoroughly disliked how badly BOTH tackles were whipped on a clear pass-blocking situation.

They should move him to WR then. Thanks. My wife was the only one who got it otherwise, and she barely chuckled.

Preseason and all, but that’s a nonsense call on Burks.

Now that some of the nerves are behind him, Love looks pretty sharpe.

Preseason and all, but Funchess is a legit veteran receiver. We may have seriously underestimated his potential contributions….