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I am hoping they pull the plug before then. It sucks, Perkins is someone you want to root for but it’s time, there’s just no real value to the MLB roster there.

We are dang tough to beat when Miz or Kyle is pitching.

Unfortunately probably yes. Ironically they actually probably can afford him. Catcher is one position that doesn’t usually see exorbitant paydays in MLB and I don’t really know why.

Probably. 6 playoff teams per league these days helps.

7 innings and 12 K’s but he allowed a run. Send him back to the pitching lab.

Back to 102 on that K. Might have just enough gas to get through 7 and then turn it over to the pen.

Being 29-25 with two 10 game winning streaks is something.

Little surprised by this. Miz was laboring a bit in the 6th and the velocity was down.

We have a lot of trouble adding insurance runs because the guys that we have at the bottom of our order just generally aren’t very good at getting in the guys that do their job well at the top and middle of the lineup.

Just a terrible, terrible AB by Joey.

Good work Mitchell.

It adds a challenge to the offensive game plan when you forfeit a free out every time through from your 7 spot.

This inning is definitely it for Miz if he can get through it.

Or just, you know, not be on the roster at all.

Mitchell has been playing some better ball lately. Perkins and Ortiz were as advertised.

That was probably one of my favorite Chourio ABs this season. Didn’t hack at a few pitches that he normally would have and ended up drawing the walk.

Yeah, trend was probably the wrong way to put it on my part. Either way I understand we are working with a limited sample size. It seems to me that we are more active in shopping high end pitchers than high end position players prior to their contracts expiring, but I’m sure they approach each situation on a case by case basis depending on the organizational depth at that position, the offers that they get, and other factors.

No, but who would that have been other than Adames? It’s not like we’ve been dealing position players before it got to that point, except guys like Collins and Durbin who we apparently did not see as part of our long-term future. I expect Contreras to be the second. With Turang it’s possible that the current middle infield depth allows us to part with him sooner.

Yes, because Miz and Harrison have been downright amazing. It isn’t because we have a deep rotation with legitimate back end starters.

… yes? At the moment we have essentially a 3 man rotation.

Williams is probably a good addition to this discussion because that obviously turned into a home run via Durbin. In general I think I would have a greater willingness to trade relievers than starters, being more replaceable. I've noticed with high end position players we tend to ride them out until the end and then offer the QO rather than deal them. I think that will be the case with Contreras who I assume we have almost no hope of extending.

Potential value, yes. I'm holding out hope for Sproat, and I understand the optimism. However, too many are penciling him into the top of the Brewer rotation for the next 6 years. Not everyone who touches 99 is just a tweak or two from becoming a TOR starter. In fact I would say the vast majority do not.

The amount of disrespect here for a guy who won us 17 games and almost 180 innings and finished in the top 5 for Cy Young voting is absolutely wild. Peralta’s numbers are all near his career averages, so if Met fans want to ship him out for whatever they can salvage, that’s their problem. He’s hardly been a liability; they have a lot bigger problems on that roster than Freddy Peralta. If you like Sproat and Jett, that’s fine. Nothing wrong with that, But acting like we could barely find room in our rotation right now for Peralta is comical.

In the current regime, we've seen a pattern of trading high end starting pitchers that we know won't be returning, a year prior to free agency, no sooner, no later, while with position players we often let it ride all the way to the QO. This of course occurred with Burnes and Peralta. Actually, this goes all the way back to the Yovani Gallardo days, but that was obviously pre-Arnold. So has this benefitted us? I'd like to disclaim a couple things here — obviously Matt Arnold is a tremendous GM and I'm not second guessing that. It's okay to discuss whether a particular strategy has been beneficial or if the alternative (taking it all the way to QO) would be better. Additionally, I know that in these arguments, we see a lot of "the players we acquired provided a total of 'X' WAR while the player(s) we traded away gave us only 'Y' WAR in that one season. I'm not sure how beneficial that information is, because 1) we're more focused on October results at this point, and these arguments don't really include that, and 2) just for an example, if Joey Ortiz hadn't been our SS the last 2.5 seasons, someone else with unknown results would have been taking his place. Corbin Burnes brought us Joey Ortiz and DL Hall (also the CB RD A pick in 2024, but this is offset by the lost potential QO pick, so for all intents and purposes the deal was Burnes for Ortiz and Hall.) Hall is an adequate lefty bullpen arm, nothing more and nothing less. His command has been concerning this year while the results have still been acceptable. We know what we have with Joey, who has a fantastic glove but lacks a strong enough bat to be a long-term solution at the position. In the 2024 season, the season ended in heartbreaking fashion with the Game 3 Wild Card loss to the Mets. Would the series have been different with Burnes leading the rotation? Would we have continued to advance deeper in the NL playoffs? These are hypotheticals that of course, we can never know, but are still worth considering when making these kinds of trades. In 2026, we are in a position where Peralta would ironically make a much needed addition to the current rotation. Jett hasn't had his shot yet, and Sprout, while certainly having a capable high upside arm, hasn't had the results we'd like to see so far. It's certainly fair to say the jury is still out on this one, but let's also not forget the loss of Tobias Myers in this deal, who has continued to be a reliable long man/swing man. And we also need to consider that Freddy would have brought in a comp pick at the end of the season on our side. Just want to hear everyone's thoughts on these type of deals — should we be continuing to do them? Or are the assets we've gained simply not worth losing out on a high end starting pitcher especially for a club that continues to be in contention year in and year out?