07/23/07 Brewers (Capuano) @ Reds (Harang) 6:05pm CT

[Brian the Automator]

[ You mean there isn't one guy on that roster who couldn't put the gear on in an emergency? ]

 

Miller was the last position player... You mean, put a pitcher out there at C?

[sauveb]

Bruce. I respect your opinions and I almost always agree with you but not this time. The blame goes to Estrada and the rest of the offense. If Yost uses Coco and we don't score we still end up with Balfour or Spurling. If we score we have Cordero for the win. You have to keep your closer for the save.

[Weirdos19]

Bringing in a pitcher who's ERA is over 16 isn't against the grain, it's stupid.

 

And, to not have somebody warm when he walked the first guy might be even worse.

 

Usually the first game of a roadtrip is pretty important. You need to get off on the right foot. Villy or Parra would have been better, either one.

[Bruce Ciskie]

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How many managers do what you suggest? I've _never_ seen it.

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That's not what I said. I've seen it, but not often. It's certainly not "the rule" or the "book", which is what I'm questioning. What sense does that make?

[brewcrew00]

You don't take a starter and warm him up, then sit him down, and then ask him to get ready in 4 or 5 pitches again. Just doesn't happen.

[DougJones43]

Again, good in theory, but what makes you think they are going to even score A run?

 

Maybe they wouldn't have, but wouldn't you at least liked to have had a chance to?

[Bruce Ciskie]

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The blame goes to Estrada and the rest of the offense.

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I absolve them of nothing. As usual, the last significant moment is the one most discussed. But Estrada is still garbage, and Graffanino before him.

[BREWCREW5]

it wouldnt suprise me if estrada gets a 2 or 3 days off.

[Brian the Automator]

[ Bringing in a pitcher who's ERA is over 16 isn't against the grain, it's stupid.

 

And, to not have somebody warm when he walked the first guy might be even worse.

 

Usually the first game of a roadtrip is pretty important. You need to get off on the right foot. Villy or Parra would have been better, either one. ]

 

The problem with Villy and Parra were that they both pitched yesterday. Neither of them looked sharp yesterday. Complicating things is that Parra really needs to get his work in not tonight, but maybe Wednesday night....

 

I suppose I might have gone with Spurling, although it pains me to suggest that as well.

[brewerjamie15]

The blame goes to Estrada and the rest of the offense.

 

Bases loaded. Nobody out. Tie game. You should be looking pretty good after the inning, right? Ugh.

[bobskube]

For those who said he went by the book, even though it is in hindsight.

 

Would you have felt better about this is you used your best options first and possibly gave yourself the best chance to win?

 

I know Yost was probably thinking about going to Cordero, but he figured that the Reds were sending up crap that inning-which they were-but a new reliever who had failed in two previous appearances...I think not.

 

Spurling would have been even a more logical choice if Yost was going in that direction because even though he is bad, he has at least done a couple of good things.

[Bruce Ciskie]

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Miller was the last position player... You mean, put a pitcher out there at C?

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At the point Estrada pulled his stunt, Weeks was still on the bench. Gwynn never played.

[DougJones43]

If we score we have Cordero for the win.

 

But Ned didn't give us a good chance to even make it to the 13 for a chance to score. I just don't understand this type of logic. People are overly concerned about what might happen when reaching point B, when point B doesn't even exist without getting past point A.

[jlau20]

ANYWAYS...

 

It's unfortunate that now that we get April-Cappy back, the offense has put up 3 combined runs in his last two starts, both of which were more than quality starts.

 

Here's to hoping Cappy keeps it up.

[brewerjamie15]

I'm going to go vomit and then go to bed for restless sleep full of bad dreams courtesy of Nedly and crew.

[MoneyballMan]

Miller was the last position player... You mean, put a pitcher out there at C?

 

Too bad we didn't get out of the inning - we could have stuck Balfour behind the plate as a little punishment!

[logan82]

I don't care who they put in to pitch. The offense has to score more than one run. You just can't expect the bulpen to hold the other team down forever.

[brewmann04]

Well i agree Johnny needs to be made an example Of and Benched for a few games, The Play was In Excuseable.

I guess seening For the last few Games putting out Spurling and Balfour makes you think Melvin Going to have get a veteran for the Pen.

[MoneyballMan]

I don't care who they put in to pitch. The offense has to score more than one run. You just can't expect the bulpen to hold the other team down forever.

 

Very true. Not scoring with the bases loaded really cost us. We wouldn't have even seen Balfour then. Against Cinci at the homerpark, we HAVE to score more than 1 run.

[sauveb]

Does anyone think we are seeing why Estrada is always being traded?

[brewcrewkid14]

I'm going to make a prediction that before we leave Cincinnati we will see a new guy in that bullpen out there.

 

Call it a hunch.

[Invader3K]

Why are people getting on Yost so much after tonight's game? I thought he did a good job managing. He can't hit for the players...1 run over 12 innings ain't gonna cut it, and Yost is the last person to blame for that.

[bobskube]

One positive out of this game is that I believe Mark A saw it and is just as mad as us and he will do ANYTHING necessary to improve this team over the next week.

[hawing]

That had to have been Balfour's last opportunity to do anything on this team this year - at least I hope so.

 

Yeah. Offensive issues notwithstanding, Balfour takes me back to the "Wheel of Relievers" of 2006. That is a bad thing.

[BrewCrewForever]

Why are people getting on Yost so much after tonight's game?

 

I dunno, Im not mad. Im much more pissed at the offense doing nothing besides Bran and Fielder, as well as the crap that is Balfour and Estrada.