Carl Crawford

[SJgunny]

I read today that Crawford would be available for a top of the rotation Pitching Prospect. Any thoughts? I like Crawford and with Hart in center or right maybe a good fit. Would get some more speed to the top of the order. And speed in the outfield.

 

stats

G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB

2006 147 585 85 177 20 15 18 76 281 35 83 56

 

CS obp SLG AVE

9 .345 .480 .303

 

link was NY mets paper but here it is www.nypost.com/sports/mets/ex_rayvision_mets_joel_sherman.htm

[Klements Bratwurst]

Melvin did say this weekend that the offense needs more team speed.......hmmm....plus he just happens to be an outfielder.....

 

I would hope that Yo wouldn't be the asking price as he is so close. What do you guys think if Melvin offered Inman?

[JohnBriggs12]

I think it would take Gallardo to get Crawford.

 

I'd have to think that one over.

 

Baldelli is another guy mentioned and when he's been healthy, he's real good too (.880 OPS this year after sitting out all of 05) and he would come cheaper than Crawford. His weakness is that he doesn't get on base enough and since the injury, his steals are down.

[hauser42]

They want a top pitcher for him that is close to the majors. I would think we would have to part with Yo to do it. I have no issue with moving Yo if we can get Crawford he is a big time player for this team.

[brettac1]

I think I'd trade Gallardo for Crawford.

[brewerfan82]

Just some info to consider:

 

Statistics from 2004-2006

YEAR  AGE   G    AB   R   3B  HR  RBI  BB   K  SB  CS   AVG   OBP   SLG   OPS

2004   22  152  626  104  19  11   55  35  81  59  15  .296  .331  .450  .781

2005   23  156  644  101  15  15   81  27  84  46   8  .301  .331  .469  .800

2006   24  147  585   85  15  18   76  35  83  56   9  .303  .345  .480  .825

 

Contract Situation

2006:  2.50M

2007:  4.00M

2008:  5.35M

2009:  8.25M (Team Option; 2.5M buyout)

2010: 10.00M - 11.5M based on escalators (Team Option; 1.25M buyout)

[brewerfan82]

That is a very VERY nice contract situation for a very good, young player. If we can get him for any pitcher outside of Sheets, Capuano and Gallardo, it's a no-brainer. That said, it'd be hard not to pull the trigger even with one of those three, with Gallardo being the best match.

[Diggr14]

Im not sure what it would take to get him, but I'd imagine it'd probably have to be Gallardo, Villenueva, or Ryan Braun as starting points.

[brewerfan82]

I know it's impossible for us to fathom what would get a deal done (too many unknown factors on our end), but it's fun to speculate.

 

I'd try to run a package of guys past the Devil Rays before offering up Gallardo. Maybe a combination of the following guys (with my preferred trade bait in each group listed first):

• Villanueva/Parra/Inman
• Hendrickson/Eveland
• Iribarren/Fermaint

That being said, they could very well refuse any deal not including Gallardo and I would probably cave http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif

 

Potential Lineup (age on opening day 2007)

LF Carl Crawford (25 years old)

SS JJ Hardy (24 years old)

2B Rickie Weeks (24 years old)

1B Prince Fielder (22 years old)

RF Corey Hart (25 years old)

CF Bill Hall (27 years old)

3B Corey Koskie (33 years old)

C  Damian Miller (37 years old)

[AJAY]

I wouldn't trade Gallardo. As far as I am concerned, the kid is untouchable.

[brettac1]

Yeah, young pitchers never get hurt.

 

A 25 year old hitter who's just getting better is what the Brewers need. The odds say that his chances of staying healthy and productive are way, way higher than Gallardo's. There's a decent chance that Gallardo goes out next year and blows up his arm - it even happens to guys with good mechanics.

[sbrylski]

Gallardo would be a steep price to pay for a guy with an OBP only about 40 points higher than his BA. The SB are nice, and he steals them with great effeciency.

 

I don't think I'd part with Gallardo. Inman+, I'd be down with, but I wouldn't trade Gallardo or Braun, and therefore I likely wouldn't be trading for him.

[pogokat]

i'm not a huge crawford fan, but this thread is telling because we are gonna have to part with some of the top prospect guys to get a big name player...

 

i think currently, the brewers are stacked enough in the pitching department that they probably could make a deal to get someone like crawford...i'd hate to see the prospects traded, but it would probably be a smart move...

 

i think crawford would cost us gallardo and inman....but at least he's young and cheap...instead of Andruw Jones, who is neither..

[Team Canada]

Gallardo would be a steep price to pay for a guy with an OBP only about 40 points higher than his BA.

 

That's one thing I noticed too. Granted he's young and presumably still improving, but that's not that great for someone at the top of the lineup.

[Klements Bratwurst]

I also agree that a player like Baldelli could be a nice fit for this team. It could be done cheaper too and would answer our centerfield problem. Rocco's .880 OPS would be a nice addition to this lineup.

 

LOL- Get Delmon Young. Joking. That would make us have the first two picks of the 2003 draft!!!

[brewmann04]

You can"t give away our top Pitching and Hitting prospects.

The potential of Gallardo and Braun are to high to give up.

I would Have to include Inman also with the above names

[DHonks]

the teams that trade their top prospects are the teams who can afford a massive payroll. For instance, the Yankees would rather not rely on kids. The Brewers can't go trading for hitters like Crawford, because that contract will be right when Fielder and Weeks are getting $7 million, and Hardy $4 million.

[TheEndless7]

I would LOVE to get Crawford and I think we have a lot to trade that the rays will look at, but I doubt we'll manage to get him. I don't think Gallardo would be the asking price, but it would be close.

[thumperden]

Crawford is an almost ideal candidate for a leadoff/cf guy. That would give the Brewers a position to trade outfield depth for pitching to help make up for the loss of a Gallardo type.

 

Let's see, Clark, Jenkins, Mench, and Nix are certainly expendable. Hart and Gwynn probably stick. If the Brewers sign Graffanino with the prospect of starting him at 2b, you could put Weeks in LF, Crawford, in CF, and Hart in RF. That's a lot of speed in the OF, with Gwynn as a 4th/5th of and Hall as an occasional fill-in.

 

That excites me a lot.

 

Who the Brewers would get for pitching help in trade would probably be close to majors ready arms or average major league arms.

[Weirdos19]

I think a package of Eveland and Gwynn may get it done. Dana could start for them, and Gwynn would be a cheap replacement for Crawford.

[sbrylski]

I think a package of Eveland and Gwynn may get it done.

 

Doubt it, but sign me up!

[Invader3K]

I'm in favor of giving up pitching prospects for young quality hitters at this point. This offense is desperate for some pop.

[And That]

I'd have no problem giving up a package like Dana Eveland, Zach Jackson and Hernan Iribarren for Carl Crawford. Thing is, you'd really have to sell the D-Rays on the pitching prowess of the guys you're giving up. Crawford is an exceptional baseball player that I would love for the Brewers to get, but the price would be high, for sure.

[RyDogg66]

No way a deal gets done with Dana Eveland involved. I'd say one of Gallardo, Inman or Rogers would have to go, and then maybe an Eveland or Hendrickson as a throw in.

[endaround]

Eveland dominated AAA as a 22 year old. Yes he isn't a #1 propsect but a guy who K's more than one an inning is good.