2011-06-01 Brewers (Marcum) at Reds (Leake) - [Brewers lose, 4-3]

[bucks2281]

Ugh. Cordero was a main contributor in our 2007 collapse ... it stings even more knowing that this is his FOURTH season with the Reds and we still haven't scored a run off of him.

[jjkoestler]

Insert my first strike here

[pebadger]

I think I saw this game 2 months ago.

[fondybrewfan]

Jeez,

 

Counsell had no intention of swinging there at all

 

I had a bad feeling once the lead was cut to 1. Today is the perfect example of the need for a loogy.

[DuWayne Steurer]

well that hurts. Another 'shoulda' in the books.

 

This series is horribly marked with terrible pitches to Votto and Bruce with men on base. Should be leaving Cinci with a series win.

[owbc]

Well the Brewers stole about 5 games on the last homestand so I guess they were bound to give one back. Better luck against the Marlins this weekend. Rainy season hasn't started yet so at least there won't be any rainouts.

[Mr QL]

This team is an embarrassment on the road. I am so P/O'd right now. I hate... I'm not even going to say anymore.

 

We're a good home team but unless we make some changes, we aren't going to sniff the playoffs.

[endaround]

Cordero won the world series!

It is his 300th save so it is kind of a big deal.

No idea why you let Counsell hit there

[Oldcity]

Lot of blame to go around. Melvin for going into a series against the freaking Reds without a LOOGY. RRR for not using Axford. Loe for not even making it hard for Votto.

[thablingster]

Well, this is the game that not having a LOOGY came back to bite us. Not that RRR would have used him anyway because Loe has to pitch the 8th inning, but it's just the principle. Tough loss.

[wisconsinfan47]

We'll get the Reds when it counts.

[ELCABALLO45]

Why does Loe have some god given right that he HAS to pitch the 8th, and finish the 8th no matter what happens??!?!? Has he proven to be a stud set-up man for years or something, and I missed it?!?! Hasn't Bradock had enough sleep yet?!?! How can a MLB team not have a LOOGY, that was exactly why you need one!!! THis is so frustrating, so much more talent on this team to be only 4 games over .500!! Vent done. Run.

I understand what your saying. But bringing in a loogy against Votto is basically pointless. He kills lefty's as well.

[Oxy]

Loe's previous 9 appearances before tonight: 9 IP, 2 H, 1 BB 0 ER.

[PrinceEatMeat]

Would've been nice to not hang pitches against their two best hitters in the same game. Terrible loss. Would've been no point in putting in a lefty anyway. Votto kills lefties. Highest batting average in the league against them.

[danzig6767]

Why does Loe have some god given right that he HAS to pitch the 8th, and finish the 8th no matter what happens??!?!? Has he proven to be a stud set-up man for years or something, and I missed it?!?! Hasn't Bradock had enough sleep yet?!?! How can a MLB team not have a LOOGY, that was exactly why you need one!!! THis is so frustrating, so much more talent on this team to be only 4 games over .500!! Vent done. Run.

I understand what your saying. But bringing in a loogy against Votto is basically pointless. He kills lefty's as well.

So far this year he has, but he also has no home runs vs lefties this year and over his career Votto has always hit righthanders better, especially for power.

 

I'll take that sample over 47 at bats this year vs lefties.

[jjgott]

San Francisco at least tied it up against the Cards so hopefully this loss doesn't change our distance with St Louis

[SeriesFinale]

We'll get the Reds when it counts.

Heh, what on Earth would give you that impression?

 

 

[endaround]

Would've been nice to not hang pitches against their two best hitters in the same game. Terrible loss. Would've been no point in putting in a lefty anyway. Votto kills lefties. Highest batting average in the league against them.

He is this year. That's 50+ odd PAs. For his career he's still good against a typical LHer but much better vs RHers (about 100 points for OPS). The bigger issues is that Loe shouldn't pitch to LHers.

[theavrock]

Loe's previous 9 appearances before tonight: 9 IP, 2 H, 1 BB 0 ER.

Loe's numbers vs. Votto 3 for 6 2 HR's

He shouldn't have been pitching to him. Ax should have been warming in case the situation got out of control. He was coming in unless the Crew scored 4 in the 9th.

The fact that managers are stuck in the closers only in the 9th mentality is dumb. You put in your key guy when the situation warrants it.

[Eddiehitsthefoulpole]

We can't keep giving away these games. I lost confidence in Loe as the 8th inning guy a couple of weeks ago but this is a shared loss. That wasn't the NL all-star pitching staff that shut us down. Just when my natural pessimism starts to fade into optimism.........

[NievesNoNO]

Man, tough loss!! A wasted start by Marcum. The Reds are going to win a lot of games when their opponent only scores 3 runs. I hate that almost all MLB managers won't use their best reliever more than 1 inning. The result may not have been different though. Need to stay positive and get the next series.

[danzig6767]

Would've been nice to not hang pitches against their two best hitters in the same game. Terrible loss. Would've been no point in putting in a lefty anyway. Votto kills lefties. Highest batting average in the league against them.

He is this year. That's 50+ odd PAs. He's still good against a typical LHer but much better vs RHers (about 100 points for OPS). The bigger issues is that Loe shouldn't pitch to LHers.

Yep, 47 at bats vs lefties this year, but over his career he's hit righthanders much better and none of his homers this year came against a lefty.

[number59]

As much as tonight is a stomach punch game.....sometimes you lose a 1 run game on the road against good teams no matter what.

 

Not every result is an indicator of how "something needs to change." This team is trending upward.

[brwrsfan]

My heart hurts.

I agree. You wonder how many of these they can take. This was a chance to get rid of demons on the road, against the reds, etc. Instead we lead all game, then find a way to blow it when it matters most and suffer yet another heart breaking defeat. Hitting Phillips can't happen. Nor can leaving Loe in to face Votto. Career numbers and Loe this season would indicate that you take him out and bring in Axford (or anyone else for that matter), yet we just let him sit there. Then he just throws one belt high, right down the middle. Game over.

 

It just seems that on the road at least, we find ways to NOT win games, not the other way around. And that's a bad trend.

 

[Oldcity]

Loe's previous 9 appearances before tonight: 9 IP, 2 H, 1 BB 0 ER.

How did you feel about that matchup going into the at-bat?

Loe should never face lefties, particularly good ones.