Greinke traded to Angels for three prospects; Rangers nearly won the bidding (Latest: revisiting this trade in December 2015; post 481)

[jjfanec]

I am really interested to see how our young pitching shakes out next year. Between AA to the majors we will have Fiers, Thornburg, Rogers, Peralta, Burgos, Nelson, Jungmann, Hellweg, Pena, Bucci, Scarpetta, and Bradley.

[Dollarbill13]

 

This should throw the Rangers into panic mode!!!

 

Now they'll have to give up Olt for K-Rod

[TURBO]

Angels get him for 10 starts

 

Plus a playoff run, which is their entire point of getting him, right?

 

[fondybrewfan]

The leg injury last year explains the big drop in SS in 2011. Looks like he got off to a slow start in April and May this year but has really picked up the last 2 months

[SRB]

The Future: Tall and skinny, Hellweg still is growing into his frame and velocity, but if he holds onto his control gains he has No. 2 starter potential. The Angels added him to the 40-man roster in November and Double-A awaits him in 2012.

Well nobody can accuse Melvin of not betting on high-risk upside.

 

Kevin Goldstein had Hellwig #3 entering the season, btw (behind Trout and Segura), so above players like Cowart/Richards

[TURBO]

Saw Cowart in person, dude is a stud! Really wanted him in the deal...

[Warning Track Power]

Minor League Experts:

 

Would anyone have preferred Garrett Richards to either of pitchers (Hellweg or Pena)?

[adambr2]

I'm very excited for this and I think it's a great, and necessary move.

 

Yet there is a part of me that for some reason, feels a bit of sadness -- not about the move itself...but just about the fact that we've turned into regular buyers, not sellers, and this almost feels like the end of an era in a way. We haven't seen a move like this for the Brewers in a long, long time, and it of course definitely signals the official white flag on the season, not that we needed an official one.

 

Don't get me wrong though -- absolutely a great move. Sure beats the supplementary draft pick.

[davego]

K-Rod may have just helped the Angles win another World Series.

[ninja33]

Minor League Experts:

 

Would anyone have preferred Garrett Richards to either of pitchers (Hellweg or Pena)?

 

to either one of them individually, yes. to the combination of the two? probably not.

[TooLiveBrew]

Well, this certainly looks like a good return at first glance. Interesting that the Rangers wouldn't part with Olt.

 

Now get Segura up to the bigs, and end the embarassment at SS.

[RockCoCougars]

Beside age, and ability to switch hit, this guy looks to be pretty similar to Profar in the stat lines. What is the major drop off there? I'm glad two pitchers are coming back as well, but I don't like the fact that neither seems to be able to throw strikes.

 

Bottom line, I'm glad that they didn't settle for the Rangers' garbage again. Even happier that they sent him to their big rival. Hopefully Greinke pitches the deciding game against them in the playoffs and shuts them down. I wasn't sold on Olt anyway, so I'd rather roll the dice on a SS.

[jjfanec]

Looks like Mark Rogers is not starting in Nashville as he was slated to. Wonder if he is taking Greinke's spot since Thornburg had arm fatigue

 

I posted this hear because it kind of has to do with Greinke leaving

[M Skjellyfetti]

Everything I have seen so far (fangraphs and BA) points to Segura not being able to stick at SS long term. However, many here have been saying we got a SS of the future. Anyone have a source that thinks Segura can play solid defense at short?

[brettac1]

Looks like Mark Rogers is not starting in Nashville as he was slated to. Wonder if he is taking Greinke's spot since Thornburg had arm fatigue

 

I posted this hear because it kind of has to do with Greinke leaving

Drug test come back dirty?

[SRB]

Everything I have seen so far (fangraphs and BA) points to Segura not being able to stick at SS long term. However, many here have been saying we got a SS of the future. Anyone have a source that thinks Segura can play solid defense at short?

Brewers scouting department?

[DuWayne Steurer]

Beside age, and ability to switch hit, this guy looks to be pretty similar to Profar in the stat lines. What is the major drop off there?

 

Profar is a stud defensively, and this guy is not. (according to scouts at least)

[jwill535]

Segura to AA

[jjfanec]

Beside age, and ability to switch hit, this guy looks to be pretty similar to Profar in the stat lines. What is the major drop off there?

 

Profar is a stud defensively, and this guy is not. (according to scouts at least)

 

But is he better than Yuni?

[TooLiveBrew]

Beside age, and ability to switch hit, this guy looks to be pretty similar to Profar in the stat lines. What is the major drop off there? I'm glad two pitchers are coming back as well, but I don't like the fact that neither seems to be able to throw strikes.

 

Bottom line, I'm glad that they didn't settle for the Rangers' garbage again. Even happier that they sent him to their big rival. Hopefully Greinke pitches the deciding game against them in the playoffs and shuts them down. I wasn't sold on Olt anyway, so I'd rather roll the dice on a SS.

Profar physically projects like Hanley Ramirez (or threabouts), except scouts love his defensive ability... zero doubt that he'll stick there and defend well. All with a higher offensive upside than Segura.

[sauveb]

Doug just said that Segura is going to AA.

[paul253]

Now get Segura up to the bigs, and end the embarassment at SS.

 

Segura is going to Huntsville per Melvin on the broadcast. I think it's a good decision. No reason to rush the kid, it's not like he's going to make any sort of difference at the big leagues this year.

[TooLiveBrew]

Doug just said that Segura is going to AA.

Oh. Great. [/blue]

[Dollarbill13]

Keep in mind that he was moved from 2B to SS so some of the knocks on him could be the learning curve. He supposedly has the arm for SS. The accuracy and range is what is in question.

[TURBO]

Well, he was the Angels back-up SS on their roster right now, you'd think that he would be as good as anything we have right now wouldn't you?