Woodruff/Burnes

[rickh150]

Burnes and Shaw will both have roles, albeit smaller than wanted, with the team THIS year. Both are too talented to not be with this group.

[TJseven7]

I want Burnes in AAA until 2021. He's a starter, he's just not ready yet.

 

I hope you mean 2020.

 

I hope so too. However, he looked far less ready this year than Woodruff did in 2017. I don't think this is going to up and fix itself quickly.

[LaprilOne]

Critiscism is fine. But two "garbage" references are over the top.

[djoctagone]

in a move that will cost him salary and major league service time, the brewers opted to end corbin burnes' rehab assignment (started 27 july), and instead, reinstated him from the 10-day injured list and optioned him to class aaa san antonio.

 

unless replacing another player placed on the injured, paternity or bereavement list, burnes must remained optioned for a minimum of 10 days.

[DHonks]

One of the most interesting things about this year's team is the separate tracks that Burnes and Woodruff have taken. Coming up I think they both were highly regarded top 100 prospects. Then Woodruff seemed to struggle a bit when given a shot. Burnes came in last year and was impressive early and both ended the season being lights out in the playoffs. This year they both are given spots in the rotation. Woodruff turns into the ace and an all star. Burnes gets crushed early gets sent down and has been a disaster from spring training on. He appears to be a lost cause this season. I for one thought that Burnes of the two would be the better pitcher. I had hopes for him to be a Sheets type starter with Woodruff perhaps being a Nelson clone if all went well. I have no idea how these two have gone so far in the opposite direction. With the strides that Woodruff has made if Burnes had become what we thought he could this team would be set for a stretch with high end starting pitching. Burnes failure is the single biggest negative of this season by far. What happened?? Any thoughts??

 

I've never understood where the idea that Woodruff ever struggled came from. I certainly didn't think that watching him and the box scores from 2017 and 2018 seem to validate that. One or two outings each year skewed the overall results. To me, that's just a young guy going through some bumps. Given time as he was this year, Woody was able to get it going. Remember, he didn't get off to a great start by any stretch this year.

 

As for Burnes, the kid needs to be sent down, ASAP. I don't care what he says, they are really running the risk of damaging his long term confidence by trotting him out there every other day. Can't ruin a guy with that much upside.

 

two things to note:

Woodruff wasn't ever a top 100 prospect, but he should have been. He really caught a lot of our attentions when he was consistently dominating AA and pitching deep into games.

 

Secondly, as was said, Woodruff never really struggled.

[Ennder]

Woodruff had a 5.81 ERA on April 21st, that is probably why people thought he struggled. The peripherals were better than that though.

[And That]

burnes must remained optioned for a minimum of 10 days.

Lordy please let it be at least 10.

[OnTheBlack]

two things to note:

Woodruff wasn't ever a top 100 prospect, but he should have been. He really caught a lot of our attentions when he was consistently dominating AA and pitching deep into games.

 

Secondly, as was said, Woodruff never really struggled.

 

 

Woodruff was the ranked 82nd heading into 2017 and 61st heading into 2018 according to Baseball America.

96th on MLB pipeline heading into last season.

[Pugger]

Speaking of Woodruff, how much longer do you all feel he will be sidelined?

[DHonks]

Speaking of Woodruff, how much longer do you all feel he will be sidelined?

 

mlb.com reported last week that he's not near returning. Looks like Mid-Sept at earliest, and that wouldn't even be stretched out.

[DHonks]

Speaking of Woodruff, how much longer do you all feel he will be sidelined?

 

mlb.com reported last week that he's not near returning. Looks like Mid-Sept at earliest, and that wouldn't even be stretched out.

[DHonks]

Speaking of Woodruff, how much longer do you all feel he will be sidelined?

 

mlb.com reported last week that he's not near returning. Looks like Mid-Sept at earliest, and that wouldn't even be stretched out.

[Oxy]

Speaking of Woodruff, how much longer do you all feel he will be sidelined?

 

mlb.com reported last week that he's not near returning. Looks like Mid-Sept at earliest, and that wouldn't even be stretched out.

 

Stearns told Grindle in the pre-game today that Woodruff should begin throwing off a mound next week. So yeah, by mid-september he should be ready to start.

[Oxy]

Speaking of Woodruff, how much longer do you all feel he will be sidelined?

 

mlb.com reported last week that he's not near returning. Looks like Mid-Sept at earliest, and that wouldn't even be stretched out.

 

Stearns told Grindle in the pre-game today that Woodruff should begin throwing off a mound next week. So yeah, by mid-september he should be ready to start.

[Oxy]

Speaking of Woodruff, how much longer do you all feel he will be sidelined?

 

mlb.com reported last week that he's not near returning. Looks like Mid-Sept at earliest, and that wouldn't even be stretched out.

 

Stearns told Grindle in the pre-game today that Woodruff should begin throwing off a mound next week. So yeah, by mid-september he should be ready to start.

[djoctagone]

corbin burnes will be given a start for san antonio this weekend against nashville.

[KeithStone53151]

Speaking of Woodruff, how much longer do you all feel he will be sidelined?

 

mlb.com reported last week that he's not near returning. Looks like Mid-Sept at earliest, and that wouldn't even be stretched out.

 

Stearns told Grindle in the pre-game today that Woodruff should begin throwing off a mound next week. So yeah, by mid-september he should be ready to start.

 

Will he be stretched out for starting though? Or just pitch multi-inning relief like last year?

[Baldkin]

 

Will he be stretched out for starting though? Or just pitch multi-inning relief like last year?

 

Counsell talked about this with Uke during the pregame a few days ago. I'm paraphrasing here, but CC said that Woodruff would start, but they'd stretch him out as they went, the expanded rosters in September giving them that luxury.

[JosephC]

corbin burnes will be given a start for san antonio this weekend against nashville.

 

Better be wearing helmets in the outfield seats. Last thing we need are a bunch of articles flooding the internet about how MLB is going to "umpire" home runs if they have to put netting above all the outfield walls to protect the customers who aren't paying attention.

[Brew crew 92]

corbin burnes will be given a start for san antonio this weekend against nashville.

 

Better be wearing helmets in the outfield seats. Last thing we need are a bunch of articles flooding the internet about how MLB is going to "umpire" home runs if they have to put netting above all the outfield walls to protect the customers who aren't paying attention.

 

Or, maybe they “fixed” him in maryvale.

[Brew crew 92]

Now I read Counsell saying Woodruff not gonna be ready till end of September, first of October. Wow, idiots they are this year. First it was Labor Day, then Stearns said middle of September, now this. Counsell is a jerk. “Obviously won’t be ready till end of September”, OBVIOUSLY? Really? So your gonna talk like that to us now? He can go any day now, not gonna bother me one bit. Fresh eye’s and idea’s and such might be warranted.

[adambr2]

Now I read Counsell saying Woodruff not gonna be ready till end of September, first of October. Wow, idiots they are this year. First it was Labor Day, then Stearns said middle of September, now this. Counsell is a jerk. “Obviously won’t be ready till end of September”, OBVIOUSLY? Really? So your gonna talk like that to us now? He can go any day now, not gonna bother me one bit. Fresh eye’s and idea’s and such might be warranted.

 

Craig Counsell has no control over the healing pace of Brandon Woodruff.

 

I watched this interview, I have no idea why you're so upset about what he said. He didn't say anything condescendingly whatsoever. Did you watch it or just read a quote? As you recently said, it's all about context.

[Brew crew 92]

Now I read Counsell saying Woodruff not gonna be ready till end of September, first of October. Wow, idiots they are this year. First it was Labor Day, then Stearns said middle of September, now this. Counsell is a jerk. “Obviously won’t be ready till end of September”, OBVIOUSLY? Really? So your gonna talk like that to us now? He can go any day now, not gonna bother me one bit. Fresh eye’s and idea’s and such might be warranted.

 

Craig Counsell has no control over the healing pace of Brandon Woodruff.

 

I watched this interview, I have no idea why you're so upset about what he said. He didn't say anything condescendingly whatsoever. Did you watch it or just read a quote? As you recently said, it's all about context.

 

Read McCalvey’s article he used quotes. Did not see the interview. Article comes off as condescending.

[TURBO]

He can go any day now, not gonna bother me one bit.

 

Strange, I think that every single day about someone on this very forum...

[Brew crew 92]

Now I read Counsell saying Woodruff not gonna be ready till end of September, first of October. Wow, idiots they are this year. First it was Labor Day, then Stearns said middle of September, now this. Counsell is a jerk. “Obviously won’t be ready till end of September”, OBVIOUSLY? Really? So your gonna talk like that to us now? He can go any day now, not gonna bother me one bit. Fresh eye’s and idea’s and such might be warranted.

 

Craig Counsell has no control over the healing pace of Brandon Woodruff.

 

I watched this interview, I have no idea why you're so upset about what he said. He didn't say anything condescendingly whatsoever. Did you watch it or just read a quote? As you recently said, it's all about context.

 

Ok, I believe you, if one(me)hadn’t seen the interview, and thought the latest word on Woodruff was mid-September, and just read the article, head explode’s. Thanks for clearing up my misinterpretation.