Game 4: Steelers @ Packers - Sunday, Oct 3rd 3:25PM

[CheezWizHed]

I dont think they were offsides.

 

I don't know there is a view that can really tell since you can't see down the line, but they were up out of their stance when the ball moves.

 

Same as Preston Smith's offsides.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I dont think they were offsides.

 

They made such a great play on that molasses snap that it looked like an obvious flag. But it sure looked like they reacted to the ball.

[yourout]

I dont think they were offsides.

 

Without a look right down the line there is no way to tell.

That over head shot from behind is really misleading.

[DuWayne Steurer]

Easy to block a kick when you're 4 yards offsides.

 

4 yards? Borderline call at very best....

 

Yeah, on replay it was definitely closer than it looked in real time.

 

For as much as people complain about all the calls that go against us, and the conspiracy theories about how the NFL wants the Packers to lose, let's just take the W on this call and be happy it went our way. :D

[young guns]

Did they not have a down the line camera for that? Seems like they normally do, so why not on the fg attempt?

[OldHeidelberg]

I am not clear on the rule of "the ball moves" that they were talking about he didn't really snap it until a split second later, would that be a false start to move the ball but not snap it?

[young guns]

If you jump, and the offense moves, that's technically an offsides, I think. It doesn't result in a dead-ball. Again, I think so. Not 100% sure.

 

That’s what I always thought. I couldn’t tell on the second one but the first sure looked like he was back onside before the ball was snapped. It didn’t matter as that was the TD though.

 

I know on the first one when he crossed the line the RT flinched, so that would be an offsides even if he got back. the 2nd one shouldn't have been, but ultimately didn't matter.

Awww.. didn’t catch the jump. That makes sense.

 

 

When the OL jumped they play should have been called dead shouldn’t it?

 

No, because it's not a false start penalty its offsides.

It is still called dead if the offense moves before the snap, just called off sides in that situation.

[nodakfan17]

I dont think they were offsides.

I don’t think so either. Huge break right there.

 

Continue piling on Special Teams.

[FVBrewerFan]

I dont think they were offsides.

 

Without a look right down the line there is no way to tell.

That over head shot from behind is really misleading.

 

Really doesn't matter in this case. Overhead view shows they weren't lined up in neutral zone. Ball moves, then they move. That said, it's odd there's no camera down the line. Also another example of why NFL replay/ review system is horrible.

[PinaMadness]

Maybe the officials thought there's no way a team's special teams can be so bad that they can let a jailbreak happen like that so they threw their flags.

 

They overestimate the Packers' special teams units.

Edited October 3, 2021 by PinaMadness

[adambr2]

I dont think they were offsides.

 

I don't know there is a view that can really tell since you can't see down the line, but they were up out of their stance when the ball moves.

 

Same as Preston Smith's offsides.

 

Agreed, I didn't think Preston was offsides either.

[young guns]

I am not clear on the rule of "the ball moves" that they were talking about he didn't really snap it until a split second later, would that be a false start to move the ball but not snap it?

There's generally a little bit of leeway. Centers have some ability to move the ball as long as it's not a "fake snap" type thing. Depends on what the exact movement was and it's really a judgment call if the refs even see it.

[pacopete4]

The first extra point today was almost blocked. The game winner a week ago was almost blocked. This week one was and it was questionable offsides. All three have come from that right side. This shouldn’t need too much film room to figure it out.

[yourout]

The first extra point today was almost blocked. The game winner a week ago was almost blocked. This week one was and it was questionable offsides. All three have come from that right side. This shouldn’t need too much film room to figure it out.

 

Without changes one will get blocked soon.

[areacodes]

 

That’s what I always thought. I couldn’t tell on the second one but the first sure looked like he was back onside before the ball was snapped. It didn’t matter as that was the TD though.

 

I know on the first one when he crossed the line the RT flinched, so that would be an offsides even if he got back. the 2nd one shouldn't have been, but ultimately didn't matter.

 

I went back and rewatched since it is halftime and the RT only moves his hand to point after the DL is back across the line. I’m pretty sure the ref had him as offsides and not because the OL moved. Not surprising since the refs apparently can’t tell what is or isn’t offsides today.

[young guns]

Assuming there was no actual offsides, it seems like it might be an issue of the other team knowing when the snap is coming, as opposed to blocking. So might be an easy fix of adding some more variability in the snap.

[CheezWizHed]

I dont think they were offsides.

 

I don't know there is a view that can really tell since you can't see down the line, but they were up out of their stance when the ball moves.

 

Same as Preston Smith's offsides.

 

Agreed, I didn't think Preston was offsides either.

 

At least they're consistent...

[nodakfan17]

Maybe the officials thought there's no way a team's special teams can be so bad that they can let a jailbreak happen like that so they threw their flags.

I honestly think that happened. Huge break.

 

Makes up for the little push on Jaire, I guess.

Edited October 3, 2021 by nodakfan17

[PinaMadness]

Have a game, Cobb!

[FVBrewerFan]

Maybe the officials thought there's no way a team's special teams can be so bad that they can let a jailbreak happen like that so they threw their flags.

I honestly think that happened. Huge break.

 

Makes up for the little push on Jaire, I guess.

 

I honestly think that's what happened too. So you have a play with a 10 point swing that can't be reviewed.

[FVBrewerFan]

Way too late by Watt, at least he didn't light Rodgers up.

[jason21nl]

What an awful pick up!!!! Just awful to pick that flag up

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I must be going blind because I thought Rodgers tripped on himself.

[CheezWizHed]

Watt looking very unnatural on the "incedental" step

[PinaMadness]

Watt accidently on purpose trips Rodgers.