Game Thread (10/03/2022): Diamondbacks (Henry) at Brewers (Woodruff) - 6:40 PM CDT

[Pugger]

Just now, michael1960 said:

Boxed again.

Is his contract up after Wednesday?

[michael1960]

Just now, Pugger said:

Is his contract up after Wednesday?

Counsell sure likes that guy.

[yourout]

1 minute ago, michael1960 said:

Counsell sure likes that guy.

And Stryzleki has pitched 2 innings in a week.

[bulldogboy0733]

9 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

This is a team that is more than capable of returning to the playoffs (and even winning the division) next year. Two of top 10 pitchers in the game (and another top 25 pitcher). One of the best relievers in the game. Some really exciting and promising prospects on the literal doorsteps of the majors. They can get younger and more exciting and compete for the playoffs at the same time. It's the best of both worlds for Attanasio and the fans. 

 

Are they capable of winning a world series?? I say no and isn't that what it's all about?? If that is the case then in my opinion get on with getting the highest ceiling prospects you possibly can for those two pitchers and Williams too if you can find a taker. I want to do what the Braves have done and bring up a home grown crew of studs and lock them up.

[treego14]

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Good win for the Brew!

Brew Crew in 22!

 

[jason21nl]

Heyo!

[yourout]

Ill give them credit for coming off the deck.

[Brewcrew82]

7 minutes ago, Pugger said:

Do you think fans would howl if a rebuild?

Rebuilds are way easier said than done. For every Astros success story you get a Pirates-type situation where you find yourselves never able to get out of rebuild mode. They are also going out of vogue in baseball operations circles. And, perhaps most importantly for Attanasio and ownership, you're basically guaranteeing an empty Am Fam Field for a couple years or so even if everything works out perfectly. The prerequisites for a good team, namely elite pitching, are already there, so why mess with that if you can potentially fix your other holes in the offseason through some shrewd maneuvering?

[Nola Beery]

A win is a win! Wooot.

[treego14]

Just need a Grand Slam in the 9th now for Houston!

[treego14]

[Brewcrew82]

1 minute ago, bulldogboy0733 said:

Are they capable of winning a world series?? I say no and isn't that what it's all about?? If that is the case then in my opinion get on with getting the highest ceiling prospects you possibly can for those two pitchers and Williams too if you can find a taker. I want to do what the Braves have done and bring up a home grown crew of studs and lock them up.

Attanasio cares about fans in the stands. And there won't be fans in the stands for at least a couple years if that's the route management takes. So, no, not likely at all, regardless of if you think they are ultimately capable of winning a World Series. I will say that having your rotation fronted by Burnes, Woodruff. and Peralta with a closer like Devin is a great start to building a World Series team. Even a slight improvement from the offense and the bullpen and this team is right back to winning 90 games. 

[homer]

Astros have quicksand on the infield

[Brewcrew82]

At least they showed some fight. That's all you can ask for.

 

[bulldogboy0733]

2 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Rebuilds are way easier said than done. For every Astros success story you get a Pirates-type situation where you find yourselves never able to get out of rebuild mode. They are also going out of vogue in baseball operations circles. And, perhaps most importantly for Attanasio and ownership, you're basically guaranteeing an empty Am Fam Field for a couple years or so even if everything works out perfectly. The prerequisites for a good team, namely elite pitching, are already there, so why mess with that if you can potentially fix your other holes in the offseason through some shrewd maneuvering?

Well I think we got a very good sense this past offseason when we splurged for Cutch that the payroll isn't going to grow. Meanwhile the pitching is going to get more expensive. In addition your costliest asset should be found on one of those storage wars shows. I just don't see enough promise to make another run. Too many holes and not enough commitment from up top. Throw in Stearns is not exactly shrewd anymore and I am ready for something new. Counsell should also be gone but that's just me.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

2 minutes ago, homer said:

Astros have quicksand behind homeplate.

Wouldn't put it past them. 

[treego14]

It is over for the Brew in '22 ... more time for CC to prepare for '23!

The season was a grinder for sure ... hopefully next season we'll be ready for more!

[Brewcrew82]

Time of death: 10:10 PM, October 3, 2022.

[yourout]

Just now, Brewcrew82 said:

Time of death: 10:10 PM, October 3, 2022.

The autopsy will be interesting.

[Nola Beery]

Nitey Nite

[bulldogboy0733]

3 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Attanasio cares about fans in the stands. And there won't be fans in the stands for at least a couple years if that's the route management takes. So, no, not likely at all, regardless of if you think they are ultimately capable of winning a World Series. I will say that having your rotation fronted by Burnes, Woodruff. and Peralta with a closer like Devin is a great start to building a World Series team. Even a slight improvement from the offense and the bullpen and this team is right back to winning 90 games. 

How are you going to get better?? Who is going to go in order to make it happen?? People seem to want the Brewers to get better and give up nothing. Who are they going to get without giving up the pitching?? They have very few players who anyone wants imo. Maybe a low level prospect for Renfroe. Look what they got for Hader. Luis Urias is not going to get you the pieces you need. 

[Pugger]

The Phillies deserved that WC spot more then the Crew.  And I doubt any major changes will be made this offseason.

[Sixtolezcano]

21 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

This is a team that is more than capable of returning to the playoffs (and even winning the division) next year. Two of top 10 pitchers in the game (and another top 25 pitcher). One of the best relievers in the game. Some really exciting and promising prospects on the literal doorsteps of the majors. They can get younger and more exciting and compete for the playoffs at the same time. It's the best of both worlds for Attanasio and the fans. 

 

Prospects are just that…prospects. There is absolutely no guarantee that these rookies can be depended upon especially in their first year. Sept. And oct. 2021 and the 2022 season has shown EVERYONE that their hitting isn’t playoff level. If you believe that is playoff bound n 2023, I’m afraid you will be greatly disappointment unless there is a major roster change.

[yourout]

1 minute ago, Pugger said:

The Phillies deserved that WC spot more then the Crew.  And I doubt any major changes will be made this offseason.

I always say....Reload, Remodel, or Rebuild?

I'm going with remodel. More than just a player or 2 but less than a full rebuild.

[Brewcrew82]

4 minutes ago, bulldogboy0733 said:

Well I think we got a very good sense this past offseason when we splurged for Cutch that the payroll isn't going to grow. Meanwhile the pitching is going to get more expensive. In addition your costliest asset should be found on one of those storage wars shows. I just don't see enough promise to make another run. Too many holes and not enough commitment from up top. Throw in Stearns is not exactly shrewd anymore and I am ready for something new. Counsell should also be gone but that's just me.

Even if payroll doesn't go up, we're still set to shed a significant amount from this year's payroll. That will be used to improve the team. Mid 80s in wins this year. Just slightly better offense and bullpen (with better health from the starting pitching) and you're back at 90 wins and right in the thick of things. That will also keep fans in the stands, which is what Attanasio ultimately cares about. IF they are for some reason out of contention by next deadline, then that's when you would potentially see something like a rebuild take place. But not this offseason.