2022 MLB Playoffs

[NBBrewFan]

1 minute ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

Dishonest? That's rich. Those numbers are simply inconsequential. Especially when you bring them up without acknowledging that the guy owned AAA this year. It's simply being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

Wow you really have a distorted view of reality.  His data for the year is 541 PAs in the minors and 36 PA in MLB. It's not contrarian. It's fact. You can make an argument about the relative quality of that data, but not that the data isn't data. 

 

1 hour ago, sveumrules said:

The predictive value of 36 PAs spread across two stints a month apart is essentially nil.

The break even point between Esteury’s .451 OPS in MLB vs his .953 OPS in AA/AAA is .702. 

Do you think his MLB OPS will end up over or under .700 once he has more than 36 PAs?

You are stating yearly stats.  Those include 36 PAs in MLB. THAT's A FACT.  See above.

And none of it is predictive since the number of prospects that achieve some success (it really has been 1 year) and fail at MLB far exceeds the number that succeed in MLB.  There's nothing predictive about being wrong >50% of the time.  Two people throw **** against the wall, one get's more to stick, that one must be the better predictor...

[Brewcrew82]

6 minutes ago, NBBrewFan said:

Wow you really have a distorted view of reality.  His data for the year is 541 PAs in the minors and 36 PA in MLB. It's not contrarian. It's fact. You can make an argument about the relative quality of that data, but not that the data isn't data. 

 

You are stating yearly stats.  Those include 36 PAs in MLB. THAT's A FACT.  See above.

And none of it is predictive since the number of prospects that achieve some success (it really has been 1 year) and fail at MLB far exceeds the number that succeed in MLB.  There's nothing predictive about being wrong >50% of the time.  Two people throw **** against the wall, one get's more to stick, that one must be the better predictor...

Yet, which set of data is more statistically meaningful for drawing inferences about a player's ability? The 541 PAs where he was among the best players in the minors this year or the 36 PA cup of coffee in the Majors (i.e., small-sample size alert). @Ron Robinsons Beardis spot-on. Your original post was all about being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. 

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

15 minutes ago, NBBrewFan said:

Wow you really have a distorted view of reality.  His data for the year is 541 PAs in the minors and 36 PA in MLB. It's not contrarian. It's fact. You can make an argument about the relative quality of that data, but not that the data isn't data. 

LOL, so what exactly was your point to begin with? He was great in 541 AAA PAs. Not so good in 36 MLB PAs. No one is disputing that. They way you presented it, though, made it appear that you were using those 36 PAs to directly counter those using his AAA stats as evidence of his value. Perhaps that was an incorrect assumption?

[HarryDoyle]

A title defense is looking pretty bleak for the Braves right now.

EDIT: They're cooked.

[HarryDoyle]

Well there it is. Just hand the championship to the Dodgers.

 

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3439113/the-la-times-makes-the-case-for-canceling-the-playoffs-and-awarding-the-dodgers-the-championship-because-they-won-111-games-in-the-regular-season-but-are-on-the-verge-of-being-eliminated

[MrTPlush]

Must be rigged. I was told all September there was no point in being the last wild card team. Our team would be garbage and would not go anywhere anyway.

That must only apply to us. Good thing the Phillies don’t have that mindset.

[HarryDoyle]

2 minutes ago, MrTPlush said:

Must be rigged. I was told all September there was no point in being the last wild card team. Our team would be garbage and would not go anywhere anyway.

That must only apply to us. Good thing the Phillies don’t have that mindset.

It does apply to us. The Phillies advancing doesn't change any of that.

[SF70]

13 minutes ago, MrTPlush said:

Must be rigged. I was told all September there was no point in being the last wild card team. Our team would be garbage and would not go anywhere anyway.

That must only apply to us. Good thing the Phillies don’t have that mindset.

The Phillies are a superior team to MKE. Wheeler-Nola-Suarez with a bullpen of Dominguez-Hand-Alvarez-Eflin.

Schwarber-Segura-Hoskins-Harper-Castellanos-Realmuto.

Not particularly close either.

[Brewcrew82]

27 minutes ago, SF70 said:

The Phillies are a superior team to MKE. Wheeler-Nola-Suarez with a bullpen of Dominguez-Hand-Alvarez-Eflin.

Schwarber-Segura-Hoskins-Harper-Castellanos-Realmuto.

Not particularly close either.

Yeah, we match them in the rotation, and that’s about it. Though, it's not Segura, Castellanos, Eflin, that separate us. It's that Schwarber, Hoskins, Harper, Realmuto combination at the top of the order. We have no match whatsoever for that type of hitting ability. 

[Brewcrew82]

Almost forgot I wasn't watching the Brewers watching this Mariners-Astros game. 

[Sixtolezcano]

Brew4U and pacopete4.

[Brewcrew82]

This is what happens when you have as good of bullpens as the Astros and Mariners and no "ghost runner". 

[Hopper]

26 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

This is what happens when you have as good of bullpens as the Astros and Mariners and no "ghost runner". 

and I LIKE it!

[Brewcrew82]

Julio Rodriguez makes me so excited for Jackson Chourio. 

[Hopper]

Most MLB center fielders would have made that catch.

Announcers way over played that!!

Yeah, it was a nice play, but like I said, MLB CFers make that play 99% of the time or they wouldn't be playing that position.

[Hopper]

All that movement before throwing a pitch from Garcia is just ridiculous.

That should have been addressed in little league.

I'm assuming he does it to throw off the rhythm of the hitter, but if there is a man on base, that must be considered a balk, right?

[Brewcrew82]

God, I love playoff baseball. 

[yourout]

Getting knocked out of the series on a one to nothing 18 inning loss is a painful way to go.

[Brewcrew82]

51 minutes ago, yourout said:

Getting knocked out of the series on a one to nothing 18 inning loss is a painful way to go.

Yeah. At least we won a home playoff game after our 20 year drought. 

[Brewcrew82]

Go Guardians!! We can be them next year. 

[markedman5]

 

[owbc]

I watched all 18 innings of that Mariners game in person. I can’t imagine a worse form of baseball-related torture, and especially for a fan base that is up there with the Brewers for most tortured in baseball. Ugh. 

[rickh150]

1 minute ago, owbc said:

I watched all 18 innings of that Mariners game in person. I can’t imagine a worse form of baseball-related torture, and especially for a fan base that is up there with the Brewers for most tortured in baseball. Ugh. 

And Brian Anderson called it… extra innings is the last thing he wants…almost surprising he is still doing baseball. Maybe he can get the Brewers to cut him down from 50 games to 25 next year and leave after the 6th inning.

[Brewcrew82]

3 minutes ago, owbc said:

I watched all 18 innings of that Mariners game in person. I can’t imagine a worse form of baseball-related torture, and especially for a fan base that is up there with the Brewers for most tortured in baseball. Ugh. 

Very true. Mariners are the only MLB fanbase I can think of that can literally claim a more painful team history than us. They haven't even been to a World Series. 

[wiguy94]

44 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Yeah. At least we won a playoff game after our 20 year drought. 

I mean the Mariners won a road WC series??