Wisconsin Basketball 2022-23

[Oxy]

Wow.

Loving this team...if Crowl and Chucky even begin to shoot they are awfully good.  Tyler Wahl is the senior prototype of every player UW hopes to have.  Conner Essegian is his heir.

[Brewcrew82]

1 hour ago, yourout said:

They might scratch and claw their way to the dance but this group will not bring home any meaning full hardware.

Hepburn and Wahl have regressed from last year 

Tale of two halfs lol. Though, I can't say I didn't have similar thoughts at the time. Beating Dayton, who was ranked until last week, and losing by 1 to Kansas is nothing to be ashamed of. 

[owbc]

I’ll take another one point loss to Kansas in late March 

[Brewcrew82]

Essigian is Tyler Herro 2.0. Herro maybe able to create a little more on offense, but virtually identical during their respective freshman years of college imo. 

[MrTPlush]

8 minutes ago, yourout said:

Heck of a second half.

If they're going to call flop technicals then it can't be only on non Blue blood teams.

They call flop technicals on teams that flop. For as long as I have watched any Wisconsin basketball that have been the most flop happy/charge searching team I have watched. Thankfully they started making rules to stop it because early career Brad Davidson was insufferable.

[Brewcrew82]

3 minutes ago, MrTPlush said:

They call flop technicals on teams that flop. For as long as I have watched any Wisconsin basketball that have been the most flop happy/charge searching team I have watched. Thankfully they started making rules to stop it because early career Brad Davidson was insufferable.

It doesn't matter. You have to be consistent. Did you watch the end of the game? The Kansas player literally flopped on Tyler Wahl's late layup.....

[yourout]

1 minute ago, Brewcrew82 said:

It doesn't matter. You have to be consistent. Did you watch the end of the game? The Kansas player literally flopped on Tyler Wahl's late layup.....

If they hadn't tagged Wisconsin for two flops during the game I wouldn't have Sqaucked one bit. 

But because it was a close game and it was Kansas and they swallow their whistle there.

And the one that they tagged Wisconsin on was actually a foul on a three-point shot.

[yourout]

 

 

[MrTPlush]

9 minutes ago, yourout said:

If they hadn't tagged Wisconsin for two flops during the game I wouldn't have Sqaucked one bit. 

But because it was a close game and it was Kansas and they swallow their whistle there.

And the one that they tagged Wisconsin on was actually a foul on a three-point shot.

Claiming they didn’t call a flop tech because of the name on the jersey is getting pretty desperate to blame the refs for a loss.

Was it consistent? Idk, I will probably die before watching consistent officiating in a sports game. Wisconsin got plenty of generous calls along the way in the 2nd half themselves.

[homer]

Guy who passed the ball to the shooter at the end of regulation was out of bounds. Shouldn't have counted.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

4 hours ago, homer said:

Guy who passed the ball to the shooter at the end of regulation was out of bounds. Shouldn't have counted.

That is supposed to be reviewable. Frustrating. So frustrating.

Badgers played great in the second half. They'll be fine if they keep up that level of intensity. Stings to lose on basically two random scrambles, but that's life. Go get USC tomorrow, and you'll have to happy with 2-1 and a loss the computers will respect.

[MrTPlush]

2 hours ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

That is supposed to be reviewable. Frustrating. So frustrating.

Badgers played great in the second half. They'll be fine if they keep up that level of intensity. Stings to lose on basically two random scrambles, but that's life. Go get USC tomorrow, and you'll have to happy with 2-1 and a loss the computers will respect.

So was the Dajuan Harris turnover moments earlier…but they didn’t try reviewing that either. Those refs clearly were not interested in making the last 2 minutes take an hour.

Not to mention, no one even questioned that play until half an hour after the game was done and someone posted a grainy picture on Twitter. Hard to blame refs for thinking nothing of it when everyone else also thought nothing of it. 

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

Big win and bounce back for the Badgers. Tough team. Going to be in a lot of close games. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

Happy, really happy for Hepburn. He needed a solid game, and that was solid +.

Thoughts six games in........

It would really help this offense if you could pin Crowl down in the post after one or 2 ball reversals & get some effectiveness. It appears he "is what he is". He appears stronger, but some guys--even 7 footers--just aren't comfortable around the cup on a consistent basis. The good news is, he's very effective passing from the high & mid-post. Hopefully the board work gets a little better, and he gets back to a comfort level shooting from the top of the key cuz it ain't there right now.

Jordan Davis has had a few games this year where he's been largely "quiet" on the offensive end, yet you look up & he has 8-12 points. A putback or 2, maybe he hits a three, maybe gets to the line a bit. Defends & rebounds, doesn't do anything dumb in the half court. THAT'S when he's most effective IMO. He got back to that vs 'SC.

Some want Essegian to start in his place. I'd be OK with that, but if he continues to get substantial minutes I'm fine with him coming off the bench.

I get the frustration with Gilmore. But when you watch off the ball on both ends of the floor, it's easy to understand why Gard feels a comfort level with him. I'd love for Ilver, and Hodges for that matter, to learn enough to earn more time. Hasn't happened yet.

It appeared we MIGHT'VE started to run out of gas a bit defensively in the second half VS USC, but then got a second wind in the final minutes when stops were critical. That was one impressive three-day stretch guarding people.

The color analyst today, when the USC PG was called for a flop early in the game, didn't like the call because "He might've just been trying to avoid injury". That's the kind of nonsensical mind-reading we've reached when you needlessly add pages to the rule book. In all sports. Call a charge, or call a foul on the defender. Period. If it's neither, just play on. 

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

1 hour ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

Happy, really happy for Hepburn. He needed a solid game, and that was solid +.

Thoughts six games in........

It would really help this offense if you could pin Crowl down in the post after one or 2 ball reversals & get some effectiveness. It appears he "is what he is". He appears stronger, but some guys--even 7 footers--just aren't comfortable around the cup on a consistent basis. The good news is, he's very effective passing from the high & mid-post. Hopefully the board work gets a little better, and he gets back to a comfort level shooting from the top of the key cuz it ain't there right now.

Jordan Davis has had a few games this year where he's been largely "quiet" on the offensive end, yet you look up & he has 8-12 points. A putback or 2, maybe he hits a three, maybe gets to the line a bit. Defends & rebounds, doesn't do anything dumb in the half court. THAT'S when he's most effective IMO. He got back to that vs 'SC.

Some want Essegian to start in his place. I'd be OK with that, but if he continues to get substantial minutes I'm fine with him coming off the bench.

I get the frustration with Gilmore. But when you watch off the ball on both ends of the floor, it's easy to understand why Gard feels a comfort level with him. I'd love for Ilver, and Hodges for that matter, to learn enough to earn more time. Hasn't happened yet.

It appeared we MIGHT'VE started to run out of gas a bit defensively in the second half VS USC, but then got a second wind in the final minutes when stops were critical. That was one impressive three-day stretch guarding people.

The color analyst today, when the USC PG was called for a flop early in the game, didn't like the call because "He might've just been trying to avoid injury". That's the kind of nonsensical mind-reading we've reached when you needlessly add pages to the rule book. In all sports. Call a charge, or call a foul on the defender. Period. If it's neither, just play on. 

This is great, I think. If this team guards like they did this tournament, they can beat anyone...

[MrTPlush]

2 hours ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

The color analyst today, when the USC PG was called for a flop early in the game, didn't like the call because "He might've just been trying to avoid injury". That's the kind of nonsensical mind-reading we've reached when you needlessly add pages to the rule book. In all sports. Call a charge, or call a foul on the defender. Period. If it's neither, just play on. 

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Honestly though, I’d rather an iffy flop call versus 20 flop attempts in a game. I don’t know that I really like them dumping the warning though. Each team should get a warning. Felt like the point my was across enough with the threat of a potential technical foul.

Officiating in the entire Battle 4 Atlantis has been absolutely atrocious. Refs must be sipping margs on the beach before games or something.

[UpandIn]

13 minutes ago, MrTPlush said:

Brad Davidson approves this message.

Honestly though, I’d rather an iffy flop call versus 20 flop attempts in a game. I don’t know that I really like them dumping the warning though. Each team should get a warning. Felt like the point my was across enough with the threat of a potential technical foul.

Officiating in the entire Battle 4 Atlantis has been absolutely atrocious. Refs must be sipping margs on the beach before games or something.

You realize Brad Davidson is no longer on the Badgers or playing College Basketball, right?

[MrTPlush]

37 minutes ago, UpandIn said:

You realize Brad Davidson is no longer on the Badgers or playing College Basketball, right?

Uhh….yah…? 

[UpandIn]

2 minutes ago, MrTPlush said:

Uhh….yah…? 

Ok...just seemed strange you'd keep bringing up a guy who's currently playing in Lithuania so I thought I'd ask. 

[CheezWizHed]

1 hour ago, UpandIn said:

Ok...just seemed strange you'd keep bringing up a guy who's currently playing in Lithuania so I thought I'd ask. 

You realize that Brad Davidson was a known flopper right? One of the main reasons the rule exists?

[DuWayne Steurer]

I'm almost positive most reasonably objective Badger fans accept that Davidson was a pretty egregious flopper without having to bring him up every time the word "flop" is mentioned.

[UpandIn]

5 minutes ago, DuWayne Steurer said:

I'm almost positive most reasonably objective Badger fans accept that Davidson was a pretty egregious flopper without having to bring him up every time the word "flop" is mentioned.

Yup. 

[yourout]

41 minutes ago, DuWayne Steurer said:

I'm almost positive most reasonably objective Badger fans accept that Davidson was a pretty egregious flopper without having to bring him up every time the word "flop" is mentioned.

Flopping or not he was pretty good at moving his feet and anticipating to get into position to make it a tough call for the ref.

[Jim French Stepstool]

Brad, when you consider all the tangibles & intangibles, was easily a sum positive in his Badger career. He also, on many occasions, was guilty of flopping. He'll always be someone you love to hate if you aren't a UW fan. After watching him perform for the last nine years (or so it seems?) my initial thoughts will always be the heart, the times he played hurt or out of position (sometimes both), and the leadership. Never met him, but from what I've heard from people who should know & whose opinion I value he was a polite, engaging kid off the court. Not to mention he was an actual student-athlete. Sadly, you can't always say that today. He was often officiated with a microscope, but if one wants to say it was his own fault that's fair.

 

[Jim French Stepstool]

6 hours ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

This is great, I think. If this team guards like they did this tournament, they can beat anyone...

Had they gotten by Kansas, the final vs Tennessee would've been really something. The way the Vols defend, the energy combined with the length, would've given UW fits. But Tennessee can be sloppy in the half court, and I think we could've frustrated them into mistakes & bad shots. Take care of the ball & keep them out of transition & it might've been another 42-41 game. Then the geniuses on the ESPN payroll could talk about how ugly of a game it was, exposing their 10-second attention spans.