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JT Realmuto being a nominee over Contreras is a joke. He was an awful pitch framer. 

Adames should've gotten in over Lindor, but I'm sure offense and reputation have something to do with that. 

 

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Aren't these awards determined by whatever advanced defensive stats and not just voters now? The whole someone doesn't hit enough to win one doesn't apply anymore. Look through the finalists. A lot of noodle bats.

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36 minutes ago, jerichoholicninja said:

Aren't these awards determined by whatever advanced defensive stats and not just voters now? The whole someone doesn't hit enough to win one doesn't apply anymore. Look through the finalists. A lot of noodle bats.

Looks like it's a split of 75% manager & coach voting with the other 25% coming via the Saber Defensive Index (which appears to be a mix of DRS and StatCast).

Contreras had a great year behind the plate, especially in the framing department, but Moreno and Bailey were 1st/2nd in the NL for both DRS and Statcast throwing runs so it's not like they were slouches back there.

JTR started 14 extra games and caught 128 more innings than even the 2nd most prolific NL catcher, and had Contreras by 22 starts and 200 innings. I have no problem with him getting the 3rd finalist spot on the quantity gap alone considering the attrition rate behind the dish.

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Adames not being a finalist is a pretty glaring error in my opinion. The only defensive metric he wasn’t top 3 in was DRS and he was 4th in that metric. 

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1 minute ago, RWeeksFan23 said:

Brice Turang isn't a finalist?

He was freakin' elite at 2B.

The only defensive metric that thought Turang was elite was DRS. None of the other ones considered him a gold glove level 2B. Now Adames on the other hand is a ridiculous snub.

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Can't believe Winker didn't get any consideration at DH. I can't fathom any other reason we kept him in that position other than defense.

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There needs to be a King Thames version of the bible.
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40 minutes ago, Thurston Fluff said:

Can't believe Winker didn't get any consideration at DH. I can't fathom any other reason we kept him in that position other than defense.

Adding the Designated Hitter to the Run Prevention Unit is quite a feat.

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