Mariners (Miller) vs Brewers (Hall): 4/6/23, 6:10pm

[yourout]

I don't think Munoz is going to walk us to a win tonight.

[Bulldogboy]

Brewers have two right handed relievers who have pitched one game each. Picking Hoby to pitch to Urias is strange choice. 

[edfunderburk]

1 minute ago, Bulldogboy said:

Brewers have two right handed relievers who have pitched one game each. Picking Hoby to pitch to Urias is strange choice. 

A bad choice 

[Bulldogboy]

2 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

I don’t like his in game decisions 

When Counsell needed a bench coach supposed to be Murphy because of experience. Murphy who has to make fast decisions now has Rickie Weeks who has zero experience. I don't get it.

[yourout]

Leaky bullpen so far this year.

 

[AKCheesehead]

15 minutes ago, Outlander said:

Yardley

[BruisedCrew]

First game on the 10 Pack tonight.

The Brewers lineup is sad 

At least got to see Chourio hit one. 

[MVP2110]

1 hour ago, Bulldogboy said:

Brewers have two right handed relievers who have pitched one game each. Picking Hoby to pitch to Urias is strange choice. 

There were two lefties following Urias. With the 3 batter minimum Hoby will almost always have to face atleast 1 righty in an outing

[Jim French Stepstool]

1 hour ago, MVP2110 said:

There were two lefties following Urias. With the 3 batter minimum Hoby will almost always have to face atleast 1 righty in an outing

Yep. With LHH in the 8 & 9 holes and a 3 batter minimum, Murphy rolled the dice on the one RHH, Urias. Makes perfect sense. Just didn't work. I guess they could've Had Wilson go back out for one hitter, but he's then sitting down & getting back up for a 3rd time and they apparently felt that was prohibitive.

[wiguy94]

3 hours ago, Bulldogboy said:

Brewers have two right handed relievers who have pitched one game each. Picking Hoby to pitch to Urias is strange choice. 

Murphy had Vieira up and warming for the 9th when we came to bat in the 8th. We entered the 9th still losing. Why he decided to use Milner instead of Vieira there makes very little sense.

Then to compound things he burns another RP instead of letting Milner face Rodriguez with us losing by 2. The same manager that let Bryan Hudson face Rodriguez in a high leverage spot yesterday.

Instead of just having Hall, Wilson, and Vieira pitch we had Hall, Wilson, Milner, and Bukauskas pitch with Vieira having warmed up. I really don’t feel great about Murphy keeping the bullpen fresh over the entire season. 

[wiguy94]

4 hours ago, yourout said:

What's the deal with the smoke?

They for whatever reason light off fireworks for every HR even when the roof is closed. The haze doesn’t impact the players but it absolutely lowers the picture quality for those watching on TV

[wiguy94]

4 hours ago, edfunderburk said:

Bryse Wilson & Hoby Milner have gotten off to rather disappointing starts to the 2024 season

Hopeflly both of them get going sooner than later 

I do feel like Wilson will come around. His stuff has been better this year. He was honestly pretty filthy tonight and outside of a hanging curveball was lights out. 
 

Milner on the other hand has me worried. Guys just seem to be teeing off on him even when he makes his pitches. Both the HR hit against him this year were on pitches he executed well but guys still smoked them. 

[wiguy94]

59 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

Yep. With LHH in the 8 & 9 holes and a 3 batter minimum, Murphy rolled the dice on the one RHH, Urias. Makes perfect sense. Just didn't work. I guess they could've Had Wilson go back out for one hitter, but he's then sitting down & getting back up for a 3rd time and they apparently felt that was prohibitive.

He should have just used Vieira. Vieira was the guy he had warming up when it was 4-0. 4-0 down we had a win probability of 4%. 4-3 down we had a win probability of 17%. Murphy needs to just use our depth relievers when we are losing especially with a bunch of pitcher injuries and 39 games in 41 days. Instead of using 2 RP tonight we used 3 and warmed up another. 

[sveumrules]

9 hours ago, BruisedCrew said:

The Brewers lineup is sad

Still very early of course, but the Brewers currently have a 103 wRC+ which would be a sizable upgrade over their 92 mark from last year.

Frelick (21 wRC+), Bauers (6 wRC+) and Sanchez (-100 wRC+) have certainly been sad, but the other eight players to get regular PAs have all been above average…

Ortiz (113 wRC+) Chourio (118 wRC+) Contreras (121 wRC+) Turang (121 wRC+)  Dunn (129 wRC+) Rhys (129 wRC+) Adames (152 wRC+) Yelich (167 wRC+)

[BruisedCrew]

4 hours ago, sveumrules said:

Still very early of course, but the Brewers currently have a 103 wRC+ which would be a sizable upgrade over their 92 mark from last year.

Frelick (21 wRC+), Bauers (6 wRC+) and Sanchez (-100 wRC+) have certainly been sad, but the other eight players to get regular PAs have all been above average…

Ortiz (113 wRC+) Chourio (118 wRC+) Contreras (121 wRC+) Turang (121 wRC+)  Dunn (129 wRC+) Rhys (129 wRC+) Adames (152 wRC+) Yelich (167 wRC+)

All of those individual numbers haven’t added up to much run scoring.

[sveumrules]

4 hours ago, BruisedCrew said:

All of those individual numbers haven’t added up to much run scoring.

Entering today the Brewers had scored 4.14 R/G vs a league average of 4.55 R/G. After scoring 12 runs today they are up to a 5.13 R/G. Sad no more?

Any stat is noisy by nature over a sample of only seven or eight games, but context independent measures (like wRC+ or FIP) were intentionally designed to strip out much of the noise present in their context dependent counterparts (like R/G or ERA) and as such serve as better proxies to the elusive “true talent level” over 162 games (much less seven or eight).

Even beyond the numbers, it’s hard for me to characterize the Brewers lineup as sad.

There are four mostly well established veterans to serve as the foundation in Yelich, Contreras, Adames and Hoskins.

There is one of the best prospects in baseball in Chourio.

After that there is a mix of young players in Turang, Frelick, Ortiz and Dunn who have varying degrees of upside to be potentially realized.

Sanchez is 16th in catcher WAR from 2021-23, and that’s our backup.

Perkins is a pretty ideal 4th OF as a switch hitter with top end defense/speed to go along with a decent plate approach (13.4 BB% in MLB | 13.0 BB% in MiLB).

Monasterio is nothing exciting but he’s a perfectly cromulent 5th IF and platoon mate with Turang.

I don’t think anyone is excited about Bauers, and he’s mostly lived up to the hate, but he even ended up 2-5 today and has been flashing the leather pretty regular in the early going.

[BruisedCrew]

18 hours ago, sveumrules said:

Entering today the Brewers had scored 4.14 R/G vs a league average of 4.55 R/G. After scoring 12 runs today they are up to a 5.13 R/G. Sad no more?

Any stat is noisy by nature over a sample of only seven or eight games, but context independent measures (like wRC+ or FIP) were intentionally designed to strip out much of the noise present in their context dependent counterparts (like R/G or ERA) and as such serve as better proxies to the elusive “true talent level” over 162 games (much less seven or eight).

Even beyond the numbers, it’s hard for me to characterize the Brewers lineup as sad.

There are four mostly well established veterans to serve as the foundation in Yelich, Contreras, Adames and Hoskins.

There is one of the best prospects in baseball in Chourio.

After that there is a mix of young players in Turang, Frelick, Ortiz and Dunn who have varying degrees of upside to be potentially realized.

Sanchez is 16th in catcher WAR from 2021-23, and that’s our backup.

Perkins is a pretty ideal 4th OF as a switch hitter with top end defense/speed to go along with a decent plate approach (13.4 BB% in MLB | 13.0 BB% in MiLB).

Monasterio is nothing exciting but he’s a perfectly cromulent 5th IF and platoon mate with Turang.

I don’t think anyone is excited about Bauers, and he’s mostly lived up to the hate, but he even ended up 2-5 today and has been flashing the leather pretty regular in the early going.

Compared to a good, much less championship caliber, teams the Brewers lineup is sad to me. You can choose a different word if you want..

One 12 run game that includes a couple,of runs off a position player and a lot of advanced stats showing that the Brewers offense is close to average won’t  change my opinion. 
 

Let’s see some more games and see how things unfold.