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I can’t see us taking a HS pitcher early in the draft. 2nd round maybe, but not in the 1st. If I had to guess, it’s gonna be a college hitter. And of the guys listed in the article, Benge seems to be pretty solid. 
 

I do kinda like the idea of drafting Brecht and seeing what our pitching lab can do with him. His control is BAD, but if we can improve that even a little, he may turn out to be something special.

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On 7/12/2024 at 9:13 AM, StearnsFTW said:

Put me down for Benge as well.

 

Warning:  the last time the Brewers drafted the guy I wanted in the first round was Eric Arnett.

Ouch! Lol

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On 7/12/2024 at 8:43 AM, sveumrules said:

Yeah. Frelick is probably the most successful of the lil guys we've drafted so far.

Not a draft pick, but Ortiz is listed at 5'9" on MLB.com.

Lara, Jadher, Baez, Nadal, now Juan Ortuno on DSL1 are other examples with varying degrees of success in the low minors, though they were all international signings obviously.

On TV at least, he definitely looks taller than that. Lol

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On 7/8/2024 at 9:25 PM, brewmann04 said:

I want Brecht 

You can’t always get what you want. But if you try sometimes, you might find, you get what you need. 😎

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On 7/11/2024 at 8:13 PM, Oxy said:

Clearly then you are hoping for Cijntje, since he has two of them....not unlike other pitchers, but so un-like other pitchers...

They already drafted him once, so why not do it again? 

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On 7/12/2024 at 9:13 AM, StearnsFTW said:

Put me down for Benge as well.

 

Warning:  the last time the Brewers drafted the guy I wanted in the first round was Eric Arnett.

The Angels just HAD to take Trout right before our pick that year, didn't they? Damn! Ha!

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On 7/12/2024 at 5:32 PM, brewcrewdue80 said:

If Brect isn't a top 8 pick I dunno what anyone needs to see to make him one. He won't be there when Brewers draft. Just compare the ease in the effort to throw that hard compared to Scmidt. With Skenes velo AS success, Brect is off the board earlier.

 

If the draft group isn't all that after 10.  I don't get the draft underslot.  They have the pool money to pay a top 10 who falls to them. Just please don't select a Catcher. How is it possible I read picking a Catcher in the MLB Draft early? 5th round or later and really international signing/draft is where you should. 

The problem with Brecht, is his command issues. Too much risk of having to make him a reliever, for him to be drafted that high. 

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3 hours ago, bigred said:

The problem with Brecht, is his command issues. Too much risk of having to make him a reliever, for him to be drafted that high. 

I see it's high but lowered in basically his 2nd year pitching for Iowa. Read MLB's draft rankings and it tells you his story.  Football committ that didn't get the playing time and turned to focus to baseball for 2023. They compared his FB+Slider to Skenes without the control. At 70 grade both. Sound to me like late bloomer with command as they also said Iowa worked on a few things that lead to poor results and Brect fixed himself from that as season progressed. Essentially at 21 he's more like a talented Juco player that the Brewers tend to nab multiples in recent drafts. 14+/k9 this season. I wouldnt understand the not that high when you know worst is a back end RP, and peak is a shade below Skenes.

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You guys are all talking me into Brecht. Both in terms of whom I may be interested in, as well as whom I think the Brewers could draft at #17.

I think my opinion is changing because (1), the Brewers top paid draftee two years ago was Misiorowski, which demonstrates that the Brewers like (and draft), big arms with big stuff, and (2), that Misiorowski's  control has improved a lot lately, giving me, and perhaps the Brewers' brass, more confidence that they can improve Brecht similarly.

I think any other guy they pick will be at a discount (~$100,000).

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I think the Brewers go college bat with the 17th pick.  Waldschmidt, Smith, Tibbs, Benge or King are the current rumors at this pick.  I don't see the Brewers taking a pitcher at 17 unless someone falls to them.  There are a few HS players being discussed but they are all bats also with Gillen getting the highest grade.  If the college bat is not here Gillen or Sanford maybe the pick.  If it is Gillen/Sanford I wouldn't be surprised if they go with Santucci a LHP from Duke at 34.  There are some medical concerns with Santucci so this maybe an under slot pick.  

Maybe someone like White or Jordan at 34 could be a possibility if they last that long.  Both Jordan and White could be busts as they K a lot.  White tends to be more aggressive in chasing pitches and Jordan is just raw and may never be something more than a Chris Carter or Eric Thames type of a player.  He will hit home runs and they will be majestic but he may not hit for enough contact.  I still think Jordan has the best raw power in this draft and probably the quickest hands and bat speed.  Jordan's hand and bat speed remind me a lot of Weeks.  All of the athletic tools that the Brewers have looked for are there but the bat to ball skills are extremely lacking from what the Brewers have been looking for recently. 

The player I hope that falls to the Brewers is Cameron Smith.  I am extremely high on him and he is the player that I want the most.  He reminds me of Ryan Braun a lot with his swing and I think there is more potential than what he has shown so far in college.  A lot of mocks have the Marlins going with Smith a pick ahead of the Brewers.  There is a lot of noise coming from the Marlins that Smith is someone they are looking at seriously drafting.  Gillen is also another name coming up for the Marlins along with Benge and Waldschmidt.  I think the Brewers and the Marlins are targeting some of the same players at this pick.  

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5 hours ago, nate82 said:

I think the Brewers go college bat with the 17th pick.  Waldschmidt, Smith, Tibbs, Benge or King are the current rumors at this pick.  I don't see the Brewers taking a pitcher at 17 unless someone falls to them.  There are a few HS players being discussed but they are all bats also with Gillen getting the highest grade.  If the college bat is not here Gillen or Sanford maybe the pick.  If it is Gillen/Sanford I wouldn't be surprised if they go with Santucci a LHP from Duke at 34.  There are some medical concerns with Santucci so this maybe an under slot pick.  

Maybe someone like White or Jordan at 34 could be a possibility if they last that long.  Both Jordan and White could be busts as they K a lot.  White tends to be more aggressive in chasing pitches and Jordan is just raw and may never be something more than a Chris Carter or Eric Thames type of a player.  He will hit home runs and they will be majestic but he may not hit for enough contact.  I still think Jordan has the best raw power in this draft and probably the quickest hands and bat speed.  Jordan's hand and bat speed remind me a lot of Weeks.  All of the athletic tools that the Brewers have looked for are there but the bat to ball skills are extremely lacking from what the Brewers have been looking for recently. 

The player I hope that falls to the Brewers is Cameron Smith.  I am extremely high on him and he is the player that I want the most.  He reminds me of Ryan Braun a lot with his swing and I think there is more potential than what he has shown so far in college.  A lot of mocks have the Marlins going with Smith a pick ahead of the Brewers.  There is a lot of noise coming from the Marlins that Smith is someone they are looking at seriously drafting.  Gillen is also another name coming up for the Marlins along with Benge and Waldschmidt.  I think the Brewers and the Marlins are targeting some of the same players at this pick.  

I just dont get adding a bat with current list of Chourio, Turang, Ortiz, Contreras/Quero future, Mitchell/Frelick, Wilken future. Brewers need the ToR arm potential and can draft a hs bat in future rounds that times well with team need in 3+years.

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1 hour ago, brewcrewdue80 said:

I just dont get adding a bat with current list of Chourio, Turang, Ortiz, Contreras/Quero future, Mitchell/Frelick, Wilken future. Brewers need the ToR arm potential and can draft a hs bat in future rounds that times well with team need in 3+years.

That player doesn’t really exist at 17 at least not any that are as sure as Smith or Benge are.

All the players you listed could fail and be nothing.  There could be injuries or the prospects just don’t pan out for whatever reason.  Taking a bat at 17 is just a smart play.  You have to continue to develop players regardless if they are pitchers or hitters.  Take a safer bet at 17 and then gamble with 34  and the other picks.

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1 hour ago, brewcrewdue80 said:

I just dont get adding a bat with current list of Chourio, Turang, Ortiz, Contreras/Quero future, Mitchell/Frelick, Wilken future. Brewers need the ToR arm potential and can draft a hs bat in future rounds that times well with team need in 3+years.

The Organization can use more power bat OF’s. Right now they might have one in YRod, but beyond him I can’t think of one unless you go all the way to the DSL in Jose Anderson.

Of the big-leaguers mentioned, there’s Chourio and maybe Mitchell if he can stay on the field and add more loft.

This organization needs power bats added in a big way.

They also do well finding pitching past the first round. They do well finding pitching period.

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16 minutes ago, balsamlaker said:

I am not so sure we don't see four college players to the Brewers tonight. 

Maybe, but I could almost see them going college-high school-high school- high school if they can balance the pool to get a few prep pitchers they like.

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Benge or understot for me too. Most importantly, just have a draft as awesome as last year! Yeah, that pretty much impossible with a significantly weaker draft. 

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26 minutes ago, balsamlaker said:

I am not so sure we don't see four college players to the Brewers tonight. 

Can you rephrase this without using the words "not" and "don't".  🙂

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42 minutes ago, SF70 said:

The Organization can use more power bat OF’s. Right now they might have one in YRod, but beyond him I can’t think of one unless you go all the way to the DSL in Jose Anderson.

Of the big-leaguers mentioned, there’s Chourio and maybe Mitchell if he can stay on the field and add more loft.

This organization needs power bats added in a big way.

They also do well finding pitching past the first round. They do well finding pitching period.

Also, it's just more likely to find a big leaguer by picking a college bat. 

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