Brewers (Priester) vs Pirates (Oviedo): 9/5/25, 5:40pm

[greenlawler]

We still have Hoskins and his great OBP coming. That can only help.

[treego14]

Per my calculation, the Brewers magic number to win the division is now 16.

[markedman5]

Nice to see Bauers get the big hit they needed.

Koenig found his groove at the perfect time…….Priester not good early but settled in nicely and gave them 7 quality innings.

ps please start cashing in on the runner on third and zero or 1 out situations like they have done for most of the season……..situational hitting has been a strength……every team goes through stretches like this…….I’m ready for it to be over.

[greenlawler]

1 hour ago, markedman5 said:

Nice to see Bauers get the big hit they needed.

Koenig found his groove at the perfect time…….Priester not good early but settled in nicely and gave them 7 quality innings.

ps please start cashing in on the runner on third and zero or 1 out situations like they have done for most of the season……..situational hitting has been a strength……every team goes through stretches like this…….I’m ready for it to be over.

100% We have stranded a lot of batters lately. 

[BruisedCrew]

9 hours ago, willie key said:

Yelich is definitely a legendary brewer but you can’t be hurt every September for godsakes.    We need him   
 

and do the giants have a chance to make it?

The Giants are now 4 behind the Mets and Padres and 6 behind the Dodgers with 7 games left against the Dodgers. So, they can’t be ruled out if they can maintain their hot streak. 

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

11 hours ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I'll try. Mind you, I'm looking at this through the prism of the organization.

In the postseason you'll have Vaughn & Hoskins. They both need to be PR for if it's a late-inning important run. That will probably be Bauers because you may also want to hit for Ortiz & don't want to burn Monasterio. You could also use Siegler as the PR but I think they're far from certain he'll be on the PS roster. That's why they signed Urias. If Urias IS on the roster, he really isn't a good PR candidate from what I remember when he was here. Perkins can do it, but as tonite showed he may be a late-inning guy for Collins with Chourio moving to LF. Also, Bauers may be a defensive sub late, especially for Hoskins. 

He also might be a choice for a PH appearance. Not because he's any good, but just because Murphy wants to see how many Brewerfan members he can get to jump off a bridge.

I'm not a huge Bauers fan, but I recognize situations where he might be beneficial, and with PS rosters being what they are you can carry someone like that. If Tyler Black was having a better season it would maybe be him. And if you needed to carry 13 pitchers in the PS Bauers' chances would be slim & none to be carried.

I think this is about the best the org can do. I'd push back on three things:

1) I get that Bauers has some versatility that makes him useful, especially in the postseason. But we're not in the postseason. As we try to secure a bye, I'd argue that Hoskins' offensive profile is better over 80PAs than anything Bauers (or Siegler) brings.

2) What does Siegler do that Bauers doesn't? And vice versa? I'm not sure, taken together, they provide enough unique coverage to justify carrying BOTH. And, certainly, I don't think they provide enough over having Hoskins/Bauers or Hoskins/Siegler. I think the org should pick Bauers or pick Siegler and give Hoskins the chance to hit.

3) Are we really going to opt for Vaughn and Bauers over Hoskins in the playoffs? I could see having all three rostered (teams carry three catchers with regularity), but Hoskins is in the org for these kinds of ABs. If the argument is playoff readiness, I think it applies just as much to Hoskins, who needs to see MLB pitching after a long time away.

I am sure Rhys will be up in a few days. But I think the org has made a mistake by dragging it out this long. Maybe there are some contract incentives I am missing. I don't know. Is it a nuclear crisis? Not at all. It just seems like an outlier bad decision in a sea of mostly good ones.

[sveumrules]

14 hours ago, edfunderburk said:

I will never understand or agree with the analytics nerds who tell me that batting averages don’t matter anymore

Batting average will always matter (it’s counted twice in OPS after all as the foundation of both OBP/SLG), but it’s just one slice of the pie (as opposed to being considered the majority of the pie like it was before Moneyball).

Anyone saying batting average doesn’t matter at all is just as off base as everyone that overvalued it for so long.

Believe that Luis Arraez is a free agent this year so we’ll have a perfect test case for how much MLB clubs value someone who only hits singles (and never walks, or hits for power, or plays good defense, or runs the bases particularly well).

[Jim French Stepstool]

3 hours ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

I think this is about the best the org can do. I'd push back on three things:

1) I get that Bauers has some versatility that makes him useful, especially in the postseason. But we're not in the postseason. As we try to secure a bye, I'd argue that Hoskins' offensive profile is better over 80PAs than anything Bauers (or Siegler) brings.

2) What does Siegler do that Bauers doesn't? And vice versa? I'm not sure, taken together, they provide enough unique coverage to justify carrying BOTH. And, certainly, I don't think they provide enough over having Hoskins/Bauers or Hoskins/Siegler. I think the org should pick Bauers or pick Siegler and give Hoskins the chance to hit.

3) Are we really going to opt for Vaughn and Bauers over Hoskins in the playoffs? I could see having all three rostered (teams carry three catchers with regularity), but Hoskins is in the org for these kinds of ABs. If the argument is playoff readiness, I think it applies just as much to Hoskins, who needs to see MLB pitching after a long time away.

I am sure Rhys will be up in a few days. But I think the org has made a mistake by dragging it out this long. Maybe there are some contract incentives I am missing. I don't know. Is it a nuclear crisis? Not at all. It just seems like an outlier bad decision in a sea of mostly good ones.

1) It's important as things stand right now for Hoskins to get ABs, and for Bauers to not get totally buried because he may well be on the PS roster. One could certainly argue that Hoskins should be the one here, With Bauers getting the ABs in Nashville. It might be the fact that Hoskins & Vaughn have such a similar profile, while Bauers can provide the PR & better defense. Once the PS begins, you have more bench pieces & the redundancy btwn Hoskins & Vaughn isn't as drastic of a factor.

2) I don't think Seigler provides much of anything Bauers doesn't other than the ability to play 3B. I think the only way they're both on the PS roster is if for whatever reason they aren't impressed with Urias this week in N'ville. As for now I don't know, I assume they're more comfortable with two 2B-SS-3B on the bench. If so, that's certainly debatable. But Durbin has done more than anyone expected. Maybe, just maybe his not being run out there every day has something to do with it. IF Yelich gets IL'ed I'd be shocked if Hoskins doesn't immediately return.

3) I agree. They must feel he's getting sufficient ABs/work in AAA. 

I think the huge similarity btwn Hoskins & Vaughn is playing a role here. If Hoskins hit LH, had the baserunning acumen of Bauers & fielded like Todd Helton it would be an easy call. But it's tougher, and thus open to legitimate questions. Yours are good ones, as usual😉. One way or another, I agree Hoskins will return in a few days.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

1 hour ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

1) It's important as things stand right now for Hoskins to get ABs, and for Bauers to not get totally buried because he may well be on the PS roster. One could certainly argue that Hoskins should be the one here, With Bauers getting the ABs in Nashville. It might be the fact that Hoskins & Vaughn have such a similar profile, while Bauers can provide the PR & better defense. Once the PS begins, you have more bench pieces & the redundancy btwn Hoskins & Vaughn isn't as drastic of a factor.

2) I don't think Seigler provides much of anything Bauers doesn't other than the ability to play 3B. I think the only way they're both on the PS roster is if for whatever reason they aren't impressed with Urias this week in N'ville. As for now I don't know, I assume they're more comfortable with two 2B-SS-3B on the bench. If so, that's certainly debatable. But Durbin has done more than anyone expected. Maybe, just maybe his not being run out there every day has something to do with it. IF Yelich gets IL'ed I'd be shocked if Hoskins doesn't immediately return.

3) I agree. They must feel he's getting sufficient ABs/work in AAA. 

I think the huge similarity btwn Hoskins & Vaughn is playing a role here. If Hoskins hit LH, had the baserunning acumen of Bauers & fielded like Todd Helton it would be an easy call. But it's tougher, and thus open to legitimate questions. Yours are good ones, as usual😉. One way or another, I agree Hoskins will return in a few days.

Yeah, this is all good and useful.

At the end of the day, any disagreement with the org's approach is really about like 9 days of the MLB calendar, which is basically nothing. I'll save any serious frustration for the slim chance Hoskins isn't up here when his rehab maximum is reached.

[RWeeksFan23]

19 hours ago, adambr2 said:

I hate to pile on because he’s obviously done some nice things this game. 

But it drives me CRAZY when guys get caught totally guessing with a man on 3rd, 2 strikes, and 1 out, when a fly ball gets you a run. Know the situation. What are you doing? Swing the damn bat.

Easier said than done. Hitting major league pitching is extremely difficult.

[adambr2]

8 minutes ago, RWeeksFan23 said:

Easier said than done. Hitting major league pitching is extremely difficult.

It’s not hard to protect and not take a called 3rd strike with a man on 3rd and 1 out. I’m not even asking him to make contact here. Just don’t get caught looking in that situation. Need to know the situation. Taking a called 3rd strike right down the middle is ridiculous there. That’s mental. A physical mistake is swinging and missing at that third strike down the middle. I can at least live with the physical mistake.