Brewers at Padres; Monday, September 22 @ 8:40 p.m.: Freddy Peralta (2.65 ERA, 3.61 FIP) vs. Nick Pivetta (2.81 ERA, 3.49 FIP)

[Baldkin]

30 minutes ago, yourout said:

Vaughn is leading the Brewer regulars with a 312 batting average since joining the team. 

 

Frelick is third in BA in the NL, Turang 8th for the season. One player in the NL is over .300

[Underachiever]

There have been a ton of head-high pitches tonight. Humidity making ball slippery?

[BarremlensTSSC]

2 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

All i am saying he has a bunch of hits in games that are decided. He may be hitting 265 or whatever all i know is he ain't exactly Derek Jeter in the clutch. 

I mean, I'm a casual fan, but that first sentence.... do you have stats to back that up that his hits are in games that were already decided?  As for the latter, over large samples "clutch" doesn't exist.  The playoffs don't permit large samples;  I'll give you that.  I happen to accept as likely true that in the playoffs players have to figure out how to relax enough to let their talent play and if they can't/don't then they're less likely to play to their talent.  Ortiz is a limited hitter.  I suspect he won't be great at the plate in the playoffs.  We agree on that.  But there is no one else for them to play at SS who provides a net improvement over him.  It is, as they say, what it is at this point.

And anyway, his sample of ineptitude with the bases loaded is big enough that regression is going to occur at some point and probably soon if those chances keep coming.  Why not the first week of October?  lol 

[RobertCrawley]

Good defense like Turang's wins games.

[BarremlensTSSC]

Man, that sure looked like a strike.

[Bulldogboy]

4 minutes ago, Underachiever said:

Well, moving to Jeter as a comparison is quite the goalpost shift

I'd be happy with Yuni B.

[edfunderburk]

5 minutes ago, Underachiever said:

You resisted commenting on Murphy for two whole minutes 

Was it that long?

[edfunderburk]

2 minutes ago, RobertCrawley said:

Good defense like Turang's wins games.

And he can hit too 

[Baldkin]

1 minute ago, Bulldogboy said:

I'd be happy with Yuni B.

Yes. Worse hitting and the defense of a telephone pole. 

 

Perfect.

[RobertCrawley]

Relief pitcher walks batters. Is that bad? I think that's bad.

[BarremlensTSSC]

2 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

I'd be happy with Yuni B.

I wouldn't let Yuni play SS on a rec softball league.

[Bulldogboy]

3 minutes ago, BarremlensTSSC said:

I mean, I'm a casual fan, but that first sentence.... do you have stats to back that up that his hits are in games that were already decided?  As for the latter, over large samples "clutch" doesn't exist.  The playoffs don't permit large samples;  I'll give you that.  I happen to accept as likely true that in the playoffs players have to figure out how to relax enough to let their talent play and if they can't/don't then they're less likely to play to their talent.  Ortiz is a limited hitter.  I suspect he won't be great at the plate in the playoffs.  We agree on that.  But there is no one else for them to play at SS who provides a net improvement over him.  It is, as they say, what it is at this point.

And anyway, his sample of ineptitude with the bases loaded is big enough that regression is going to occur at some point and probably soon if those chances keep coming.  Why not the first week of October?  lol 

He has batted 34 times with the bases loaded alone and come up with 5 hits. He has an assortment of pop ups and strikeouts. Now it seems you want to argue that Joey is a great offensive player for some reason. In actually he is one of the worst in mlb. I didn’t think it was debatable but nothing appears to be here.

[HarveysWBs]

Trash strike zone. Thanks, blue

[BarremlensTSSC]

Just now, RobertCrawley said:

Relief pitcher walks batters. Is that bad? I think that's bad.

Especially when they follow it up by giving up hits.

 

Although to be fair, Mears got squeezed on the first of those walks.

[Underachiever]

Win probability went from 66% Brewers to 59% Padres with that Arraez hit

[RobertCrawley]

Just now, BarremlensTSSC said:

Especially when they follow it up by giving up hits.

 

Although to be fair, Mears got squeezed on the first of those walks.

Still. You gotta rise above.

[BarremlensTSSC]

1 minute ago, Bulldogboy said:

He has batted 34 times with the bases loaded alone and come up with 5 hits. He has an assortment of pop ups and strikeouts. Now it seems you want to argue that Joey is a great offensive player for some reason. In actually he is one of the worst in mlb. I didn’t think it was debatable but nothing appears to be here.

Yeah, none of that is actually responsive to your assertion that his hits came when games were decided.  No one said Ortiz is a great offensive player.  Scroll up and read instead of creating straw man arguments.

Bye.

[BarremlensTSSC]

Had to hit the ignore button again tonight.

*sigh

[Bulldogboy]

2 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

He has batted 34 times with the bases loaded alone and come up with 5 hits. He has an assortment of pop ups and strikeouts. Now it seems you want to argue that Joey is a great offensive player for some reason. In actually he is one of the worst in mlb. I didn’t think it was debatable but nothing appears to be here.

Wrc+ is 43. Average is 100. It's hard to overstate how bad he's has been. To say he has to play because there is no other option is embarrassing. 

[Bulldogboy]

2 minutes ago, BarremlensTSSC said:

Yeah, none of that is actually responsive to your assertion that his hits came when games were decided.  No one said Ortiz is a great offensive player.  Scroll up and read instead of creating straw man arguments.

Bye.

Start argument. Lose argument. Cry.

[RobertCrawley]

Looks like Koenig and then Abner to close.

[edfunderburk]

It’s too late to lose this game

like all of you, I have an early morning

I hope they rally & win

As I mentioned a few days ago, I’m not a Mears fan

I’m concerned about the playoff pitching staff - starters & bullpen arms

[Bulldogboy]

4 minutes ago, Underachiever said:

Win probability went from 66% Brewers to 59% Padres with that Arraez hit

Walking 8 and 9 is just a complete loss of concentration. You just can’t trust guys like that.

[edfunderburk]

Just now, RobertCrawley said:

Looks like Koenig and then Abner to close.

Who pitches the 10th?

[BarremlensTSSC]

At this point I hope Ortiz gets hot so the people convinced they're the only ones who realize how bad his bat is can eat it.