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How Good Is Your Ninth Best Player Supposed to be Anyway?? (AKA the Joey Ortiz Thread)


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3 minutes ago, CheezWizHed said:

Nope. Your strawman argument was that people here are OK with 2025 Ortiz being our 2026 SS.

Quite literally no one is saying that.  But thanks for agreeing with us, I guess. 

Meh.

If you read this thread from start to finish, it appears that people are defending the guy far more than he deserves.  His 2025 season offensively was an absolute train wreck.

Whatever, see it as you will...

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You can clearly do far worse than Ortiz if he's your 9th best everyday player out of 9 and imagine if he just hits a little better next year. That's not praise or acceptance, that's realistic hope that he can rebound and be more useful if they don't uncover a better option. Something that would be harder than many realize given his defensive value. So the easiest solution would be for him to hit a little better

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On 11/26/2025 at 8:44 AM, sveumrules said:

So let's say Chad Patrick and Craig Yoho for their pitching needs, Jeferson Quero to address the catching situation, and Joey Ortiz to backfill whichever of Abrams/Neto we acquire.

Not enough.  I don’t believe the Nationals or the Angels would have much if any interest in Patrick and Yoho.  A package for Abrams/Neto starts with one of Made or Pratt.  Then another pitching prospect and a throw in piece or two.

The cost to move on from Ortiz is just way too high.  You either have to go out and get someone like Bichette or overpay in terms of prospects in a trade.  The Brewers are not doing either so it is Joey Ortiz who will be the starting SS for 2026.  Even if you move Turang back to SS Ortiz is still on the team and will be the everyday 3B in this scenario.  Take your pick do you want Ortiz at 3B or SS or do you want to trade one of Pena/Made/Pratt for SS help? 

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On 11/28/2025 at 10:58 AM, nate82 said:

Not enough.  I don’t believe the Nationals or the Angels would have much if any interest in Patrick and Yoho.  A package for Abrams/Neto starts with one of Made or Pratt.  Then another pitching prospect and a throw in piece or two.

The cost to move on from Ortiz is just way too high.  You either have to go out and get someone like Bichette or overpay in terms of prospects in a trade.  The Brewers are not doing either so it is Joey Ortiz who will be the starting SS for 2026.  Even if you move Turang back to SS Ortiz is still on the team and will be the everyday 3B in this scenario.  Take your pick do you want Ortiz at 3B or SS or do you want to trade one of Pena/Made/Pratt for SS help? 

More likely we go after (as a minor league FA or small trade) a SS that is blocked or marginalized by his current team in some way (someone 5'8"?) to come in and compete with Ortiz with the hopes of finding gold.  Basically, the same as they have done with Collins, Capra, Dunn, Durbin, Vaughn, Perkins, Priester, Bauers, Monasterio, etc... 

Not all of them work, but you give yourself another option and at a minimum you push Joey to improve. 

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On 11/28/2025 at 10:58 AM, nate82 said:

Not enough.  I don’t believe the Nationals or the Angels would have much if any interest in Patrick and Yoho.  A package for Abrams/Neto starts with one of Made or Pratt.  Then another pitching prospect and a throw in piece or two.

The cost to move on from Ortiz is just way too high.  You either have to go out and get someone like Bichette or overpay in terms of prospects in a trade.  The Brewers are not doing either so it is Joey Ortiz who will be the starting SS for 2026.  Even if you move Turang back to SS Ortiz is still on the team and will be the everyday 3B in this scenario.  Take your pick do you want Ortiz at 3B or SS or do you want to trade one of Pena/Made/Pratt for SS help? 

They wouldn't have interest in Patrick and Yoho as the centerpiece. I don't think Yoho really has much value at all as a trade piece. Not in a CJ Abrams/Neto type package. Patrick has quite a it IMO, but... not as a centerpiece for a SS with back to back 5WAR seasons and 20+ HRs, good defense. I think Made, Pena or maybe Pratt. The Angels are pretty stubborn about their place though. They'll keep spending and losing and trying to win without a real rebuild. 


Where I kinda disagree, I'm not sure why you would make Ortiz your everyday 3B if you move Turang to SS. AT that point, Collins should play 2B, Durbin has earned another year at 3B.. that should be the starting lineup. 

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20 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

Where I kinda disagree, I'm not sure why you would make Ortiz your everyday 3B if you move Turang to SS. AT that point, Collins should play 2B, Durbin has earned another year at 3B.. that should be the starting lineup. 

Why should Collins play 2B if Turang moves to SS?  Have we seen Collins at 2B with the Brewers yet?  Durbin has done everything to remain a starter on this team in some way.

Seems to me the smart line-up would then be Ortiz at 3B, Turang at SS, and Durbin at 2B.  Collins can remain in the OF along with Chourio and Frelick.  Of course Mitchell coming back throws a monkey wrench into that plan, but no sweat, he'll be on the IL by the middle of April...

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1 hour ago, TURBO said:

Why should Collins play 2B if Turang moves to SS?  Have we seen Collins at 2B with the Brewers yet?  Durbin has done everything to remain a starter on this team in some way.

Seems to me the smart line-up would then be Ortiz at 3B, Turang at SS, and Durbin at 2B.  Collins can remain in the OF along with Chourio and Frelick.  Of course Mitchell coming back throws a monkey wrench into that plan, but no sweat, he'll be on the IL by the middle of April...

I don't see Murphy moving all three guys. Durbin did just fine at 3B and deserves to start again next year. Turang is a big part of the Brewers' defense at 2B. IF Ortiz starts I think Murphy puts him at SS. 

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2 hours ago, TURBO said:

Why should Collins play 2B if Turang moves to SS?  Have we seen Collins at 2B with the Brewers yet?  Durbin has done everything to remain a starter on this team in some way.

Seems to me the smart line-up would then be Ortiz at 3B, Turang at SS, and Durbin at 2B.  Collins can remain in the OF along with Chourio and Frelick.  Of course Mitchell coming back throws a monkey wrench into that plan, but no sweat, he'll be on the IL by the middle of April...


Good god dude, we get it... this is in about 89% of you posts... even when Mitchell hasn't been brought up. 

Collins came up as a SS/2B. He had very good scouting reports at 2B. The Brewers moved him because he was blocked at 2B.

 

I'm not sure I understand the logic or how we get better when we just shuffle the IF around. 

Ortiz was an elite defender at SS. Why move him to 3B so you can move Turang, an elite defender at 2B, a Platinum Glove winner and then Caleb Durbin to 2B. 

 

That only seems to benefit Turang financially in the long-turn. 

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1 hour ago, wntrtxn21 said:

I don't see Murphy moving all three guys. Durbin did just fine at 3B and deserves to start again next year. Turang is a big part of the Brewers' defense at 2B. IF Ortiz starts I think Murphy puts him at SS. 

It would be silly to just move all three.  For what purpose?  That doesn't improve Ortiz by moving him to 3B. If Ortiz is in the lineup, I think you have to maximize his value by playing him at SS.  

If you move Turang to SS, it is with the purpose of removing Ortiz from the lineup.  

Now if you were to find a 2B and put Turang at SS, I wonder how hard it is on the players to put Turang at 2B for LHB and SS for RHB (i.e. put him in the position with the highest probability of having the ball hit at him)? 

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On 11/27/2025 at 7:44 AM, True Blue Brew Crew said:

You can clearly do far worse than Ortiz if he's your 9th best everyday player out of 9 and imagine if he just hits a little better next year. That's not praise or acceptance, that's realistic hope that he can rebound and be more useful if they don't uncover a better option. Something that would be harder than many realize given his defensive value. So the easiest solution would be for him to hit a little better

He had a really low BABIP last year and his walks were cut in half(BB%).

That seems like someone who is pressing and will figure it out. If he's the offensive player he was in '24, we're fine. 

Fans also forget they were pretty down on Turang at this time last year. Great glove... couldn't hit. And he hit pretty well this year... if you forget the last 4 games. 

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24 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:


Good god dude, we get it... this is in about 89% of you posts... even when Mitchell hasn't been brought up. 

Collins came up as a SS/2B. He had very good scouting reports at 2B. The Brewers moved him because he was blocked at 2B.

 

I'm not sure I understand the logic or how we get better when we just shuffle the IF around. 

Ortiz was an elite defender at SS. Why move him to 3B so you can move Turang, an elite defender at 2B, a Platinum Glove winner and then Caleb Durbin to 2B. 

 

That only seems to benefit Turang financially in the long-turn. 

I have no interest in moving Turang to SS just to move him.  I was feeding off the other posts that were mentioning moving Turang to SS and Collins to 2B, and Ortiz to 3B.

Yes, I get it, doesn't make a lot of sense to me.  I think Durbin has earned a starting position one way or another and see no reason to move Collins to 2B when he plays a great LF.

As far as Mitchell, mentioning him fit my post, no other reason.

 

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5 minutes ago, TURBO said:

I have no interest in moving Turang to SS just to move him.  I was feeding off the other posts that were mentioning moving Turang to SS and Collins to 2B, and Ortiz to 3B.

Yes, I get it, doesn't make a lot of sense to me.  I think Durbin has earned a starting position one way or another and see no reason to move Collins to 2B when he plays a great LF.

As far as Mitchell, mentioning him fit my post, no other reason.

 

You just said the "smart lineup" would be Turang at SS, Ortiz at 3B and Durbin at 2B. 

3 hours ago, TURBO said:

Seems to me the smart line-up would then be Ortiz at 3B, Turang at SS, and Durbin at 2B.  Collins can remain in the OF along with Chourio and Frelick.  Of course Mitchell coming back throws a monkey wrench into that plan, but no sweat, he'll be on the IL by the middle of April...

 

Someone says, "I hope Mitchell can contribute next year," and you post 39 times in succession that you're absolutely positive he won't, but here... you're just feeding off an idea you don't agree with?

Sure. 

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28 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

You just said the "smart lineup" would be Turang at SS, Ortiz at 3B and Durbin at 2B. 

 

Someone says, "I hope Mitchell can contribute next year," and you post 39 times in succession that you're absolutely positive he won't, but here... you're just feeding off an idea you don't agree with?

Sure. 

I realize your schtick on this board is argument and conflict, so it probably does me no good to reply.  I typically enjoy your posts and your point of view, but it sure does seem that you have a lot of bad days and come here to make yourself feel better.  Joking of course...

In regards to what you said above, again, I was feeding off another post that wanted Joey moved back to 3B so Collins could take over 2b, and Turang to SS.  If that is what the other poster was referring to, that is why I said the smart move would be to do that.  THAT IS NOT WHAT I  WANT, I want Durbin to stay at 3B where he more than earned another shot at the position.  I DON'T want Collins moved to the IF, and would rather keep it the way it was last season  if we are intent on keeping Ortiz at SS.

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33 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

Someone says, "I hope Mitchell can contribute next year," and you post 39 times in succession that you're absolutely positive he won't, but here... you're just feeding off an idea you don't agree with?

Sure. 

Again with the Mitchell stuff...

39 times?

Even if it were true that I posted 39 times that I don't think Mitchell will be a full time contributor, can you prove me wrong?  What has he done, or shown, that makes you believe I am wrong?  Some guys just can't stay healthy, he seems to be one of those guys.  Do I hope he hits 30 homers, and plays 140 games, ABSOLUTELY, but that isn't going to happen, and I think you know that too.

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You move Turang to SS so that way you can mix and match the rest of the positions.  I really wouldn't define the rest of the positions because you make them earn the time.  Like yeah sure it might be Durbin/Ortiz to start but if one of them starts to struggle, you start giving Collins/Siegler/Wilken/whoever starts.  Then maybe Ortiz is more of the Utility guy, cool.  And if no one emerges, then you can actually trade for a 2nd or 3rd basemen midseason because SS is absolutely dire out there and you aren't going to get one.  Certainly no one comparable to Turang.

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11 hours ago, TURBO said:

Again with the Mitchell stuff...

39 times?

Even if it were true that I posted 39 times that I don't think Mitchell will be a full time contributor, can you prove me wrong? 

LOL... is this a serious question?

 

11 hours ago, TURBO said:

I DON'T want Collins moved to the IF, and would rather keep it the way it was last season  if we are intent on keeping Ortiz at SS.

Yeah, I don't see ANYONE saying we should keep Ortiz at SS and then move Collins to 2B. I don't... even know what we're talking about now. 

 

11 hours ago, TURBO said:

I realize your schtick on this board is argument and conflict

You wrote that without ANY sense of irony, didn't you?

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On 11/21/2025 at 1:06 PM, sveumrules said:

Joey Ortiz was the Brewers worst regular player last year, with his 1.4 WAR ranking 9th on the team. He played enough to barely qualify for the batting title (506 PA), hit really bad (his 67 wRC+ was 266th of 277 players with at least 300 PA), and fielded really well (his +13.9 DEF was 17th of those same 277 players). Joey's +2.5 BsR (46th) was also enough to sneak him just inside the back end of the Top 50 on the bases in a run of consecutive familiar names...Brice Turang (+2.6), Tyrone Taylor (+2.5), Sal Frelick (+2.5), Caleb Durbin (+2.3).

But I was curious, how good is your ninth best player supposed to be anyway? So I did some clicking around and below have transcribed all thirty of the ninth best players on every team in MLB for 2025. In parentheses after each team I have included where Oritz's 1.4 WAR would have placed him on that particular team's leaderboard. I also bolded the other playoff teams for reference. Here goes...

30. Owen Miller COL (2nd)
17 PA | 28 wRC+ | +0.9 DEF | 0.0 WAR
[yes, this was the Rockies 9th best player this year]

29. Christian Moore LAA (4th)
184 PA | 82 wRC+ | -0.7 DEF | 0.2 WAR
[what's that you say, an Angels prospect rushed to the show after only 410 PA in the minors?]

28. Dylan Crews WAS (3rd)
322 PA | 77 wRC+ | -1.6 DEF | 0.2 WAR
[#2 overall pick and consensus Top Ten prospect Dylan Crews]

27. Tommy Pham PIT (4th)
449 PA | 94 wRC+ | -6.3 DEF | 0.2 WAR
[noted fantasy football commish]

26. Austin Slater CHW (3rd)
135 PA | 100 wRC+ | -1.3 DEF | 0.3 WAR
[professional backup / shortside platoon OF with between 104 PA and 325 PA each of the last nine seasons]

25. Freddy Fermin KCR (4th)
208 PA | 79 wRC+ | +3.5 DEF | 0.4 WAR
[backup backstop]

24. Brayan Rocchio CLE (4th)
383 PA | 77 wRC+ | +1.6 DEF | 0.4 WAR
[got nine different Top 100 rankings between #47 and #98 before graduating]

23. Christian Koss SFG (5th)
191 PA | 91 wRC+ | -0.6 DEF | 0.5 WAR
[had to look this guy up, 12th round minor league grinder 27 year old rookie]

22. Johnny DeLuca TBR (6th)
59 PA | 124 wRC+ | +0.4 DEF | 0.6 WAR
[part of the Glasnow to Dodgers deal]

21. Michael Helman TEX (6th)
110 PA | 106 wRC+ | +0.2 DEF | 0.6 WAR
[second guy I had to look up, not an heir to the mayonnaise empire from what I can tell]

20. Max Schuemann ATH (7th)
213 PA | 62 wRC+ | +7.4 DEF | 0.6 WAR
[only heard of this guy when he was named a GG finalist this year]

19. Bryce Johnson SDP (6th)
84 PA | 135 wRC+ | -0.2 DEF | 0.7 WAR
[thought he smoked us this year, but only got two singles in 12 AB, memory is faulty]

18. Miguel Andujar CIN (3rd)
110 PA | 159 wRC+ | -2.7 DEF | 0.7 WAR
[small sample warrior]

17. James McCann ARI (6th)
137 PA | 110 wRC+ | +1.3 DEF | 0.7 WAR
[another backup backstop]

16. Eugenio Suarez SEA (8th)
220 PA | 91 wRC+ | +1.3 DEF | 0.7 WAR
[trade deadline prize]

15. Javier Sanoja MIA (5th)
342 PA | 86 wRC+ | +1.7 DEF | 0.7 WAR
[only heard of this guy when he won utility GG this year]

14. Hyesong Kim LAD (8th)
170 PA | 95 wRC+ | +1.6 DEF | 0.8 WAR
[KBO superstar turned Dodgers backup utility guy]

13. Tyrone Taylor NYM (9th)
341 PA | 70 wRC+ | +6.0 DEF | 0.8 WAR
[always good to see an old friend again]

12. Lars Nootbar STL (8th)
583 PA | 96 wRC+ | -7.0 DEF | 0.8 WAR
[still trying to live up to the name]

11. Ramon Urias BAL (5th)
290 PA | 91 wRC+ | +3.2 DEF | 0.9 WAR
[fun Orioles side note, Ortiz had more WAR in 2025 than his more ballyhooed former organization mates Jackson Holliday (1.2), Adley Rutschman (1.2), Colton Cowser (0.6) and Coby Mayo (0.2)]

10. Royce Lewis MIN (6th)
403 PA | 85 wRC+ | +2.0 DEF | 1.0 WAR
[#1 overall pick with fifteen different Top 100 rankings including four Top Tens]

09. Cam Smith HOU (8th)
493 PA | 90 wRC+ | -2.9 DEF | 1.0 WAR
[ranked between #20 and #59 before being dealt for Kyle Tucker]

08. Anthony Volpe NYY (8th)
596 PA | 83 wRC+ | +0.3 DEF | 1.0 WAR
[$300M payroll and they've got a SS even worse than us, nevermind his prospect rankings]

07. Harrison Bader PHI (9th)
194 PA | 129 wRC+ | -0.1 DEF | 1.2 WAR
[probably the 3rd best FA OF this offseason after Tucker and Bellinger]

06. Marcell Ozuna ATL (6th)
592 PA | 114 wRC+ | -14.8 DEF | 1.2 WAR
[free agent DH likely destined for a one year deal]

05. Javier Baez DET (9th)
437 PA | 86 wRC+ | +4.7 DEF | 1.4 WAR
[once tagged a guy out at home plate from center field, look it up, it's true]

04. Joey Ortiz MIL (9th)
506 PA | 67 wRC+ | +13.9 DEF | 1.4 WAR
[the guy this post is about]

03. Romy Gonzalez BOS (10th)
341 PA | 123 wRC+ | -4.7 DEF | 1.5 WAR
[famously attended a high school reunion with Michelle]

02. Matt Shaw CHC (10th)
437 PA | 93 wRC+ | +1.6 DEF | 1.5 WAR
[kinda like if Joey hit better but couldn't play SS]

01. Nathan Lukes TOR (11th)
438 PA | 103 wRC+ | +2.3 DEF | 1.8 WAR
[there you have it, Nathan Lukes (who exceeded 100 PA in a season for the first time at age 30) was thee very bestest ninth best player on his team in all of MLB for 2025]

Just to do some final accounting at the end if anyone managed to make it this far...

- the thirty ninth best players on their teams in 2025 totaled 23.8 WAR for an average of around 0.8 WAR each. 

- in 2025, Joey Ortiz's 1.4 WAR would have ranked 2nd on one team, 3rd on three teams, 4th on four teams, 5th on three teams, 6th on six teams, 7th on one team, 8th on five teams, 9th on four teams, 10th on two teams and 11th on one team. Put it all together and he would be something like the 6th or 7th best player on an average team that doesn't have the depth of the Brewers and a handful of other clubs. 

Ultimately, having someone like Joey Ortiz as your 9th (or even 8th) best player is a small luxury. I'd love to bring in an upgrade to the infield (whether that is at SS or at 2B/3B sliding Turang to SS) but between scant options likely to be available this winter, the cost to acquire them, and the pending arrival of guys like Pratt & Made, it wouldn't surprise me if the Brewers roll with what they've got and hope that Joey can bounce back closer to average with the bat next year.

 

Excellent post but maybe compare vs recent WS winners and also the 1982 Brewer roster that came so close. Point being, I'm not sure I care about the 9th best starter on the 2025 Colorado Rockies. But comparing how a World Series contender (Charlie Moore or Gantner) grappled with such a low-end earner in the starting nine is interesting to me.

We are contenders after all each and every year and that's the comparison I'm interested in. 

Not taking anything away from the original post; it was outstanding and a high level contribution.

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3 hours ago, BrewCrew8675309 said:

Excellent post but maybe compare vs recent WS winners and also the 1982 Brewer roster that came so close. Point being, I'm not sure I care about the 9th best starter on the 2025 Colorado Rockies. But comparing how a World Series contender (Charlie Moore or Gantner) grappled with such a low-end earner in the starting nine is interesting to me.

We are contenders after all each and every year and that's the comparison I'm interested in. 

Good idea.

Below I've listed out Joey compared to the ninth best player on the other three Brewers LCS teams, though I used BRef for 1982, 2011 and 2018 since it was more favorable to the ninth best player on those squads.

Underneath that I listed out the player who was ninth in FanGraphs WAR on the last thirty full season World Series participants. They weren't that much better than the ninth best players on the thirty 2025 teams coming in at 30.7 combined WAR for an average of just over 1.0 WAR each on the World Series teams compared to 23.8 WAR and a 0.8 WAR average in 2025.

Kind of interesting that Joey was one of four guys on the 2025 list that had enough PA to qualify for the batting title, and there are also only four guys on the World Series list who qualified for the batting title. 

Nine of those thirty WS#9 guys matched or exceeded Joey's 1.4 WAR from 2025, with 2022 Martin Maldonado (71 wRC+ | +10.8 DEF) having the most similar shaped production. Two guys show up twice each - Aledmys Diaz on the 2019/21 Astros, and Mitch Moreland more spaced out with the 2010 Rangers and 2018 Red Sox.

 

BREWERS LCS TEAMS

2025 Joey Ortiz
506 PA | 67 wRC+ | +13.9 DEF | 1.4 WAR
2018 Manny Pina
337 PA | 87 OPS+ | +9.0 DEF | 1.0 WAR
2011 George Kottaras
123 PA | 107 OPS+ | +1.0 DEF | 0.5 WAR
1982 Charlie Moore
492 PA | 85 OPS+ | +3.0 DEF | 1.0 WAR

 

WORLD SERIES TEAMS

2025
Hyesong Kim LAD
170 PA | 95 wRC+ | +1.6 DEF | 0.8 WAR
Nathan Lukes TOR
438 PA | 103 wRC+ | +2.3 DEF | 1.8 WAR

2024
Andy Pages LAD
443 PA | 98 wRC+ | -1.3 DEF | 1.3 WAR
Giancarlo Stanton NYY
459 PA | 117 wRC+ | -11.8 DEF | 0.8 WAR

2023
Ezequiel Duran TEX
439 PA | 111 wRC+ | -4.4 DEF | 1.4 WAR
Emmanuel Rivera ARI
283 PA | 82 wRC+ | +0.5 DEF | 0.3 WAR

2022
Martin Maldonado HOU
379 PA | 71 wRC+ | +10.8 DEF | 0.8 WAR
Brandon Marsh PHI
138 PA | 115 wRC+ | =0.5 DEF | 0.7 WAR

2021
Eddie Rosario ATL
106 PA | 134 wRC+ | -1.1 DEF | 0.7 WAR
Aledmys Diaz HOU
319 PA | 97 wRC+ | +5.4 DEF | 1.5 WAR

2019
Yan Gomes WAS
358 PA | 80 wRC+ | +7.6 DEF | 0.9 WAR
Aledmys Diaz HOU
247 PA | 118 wRC+ | -0.1 DEF | 1.4 WAR

2018
Mitch Moreland BOS
459 PA | 101 wRC+ | -5.8 DEF | 0.9 WAR
Matt Kemp LAD
506 PA | 122 wRC+ | -7.1 DEF | 2.0 WAR

2017
Jake Marisnick HOU
259 PA | 117 wRC+ | +5.2 DEF | 1.9 WAR
Chase Utley LAD
353 PA | 96 wRC+ | -4.4 DEF | 0.7 WAR

2016
Miguel Montero CHC
284 PA | 83 wRC+ | +12.4 DEF | 1.4 WAR
Brandon Guyer CLE
96 PA | 150 wRC+ | -0.1 DEF | 1.0 WAR

2015
Salvador Perez KCR
553 PA | 87 wRC+ | +4.5 DEF | 0.8 WAR
Ruben Tejada NYM
407 PA | 94 wRC+ | +0.7 DEF | 1.1 WAR

2014
Andrew Susac SFG
95 PA | 127 wRC+ | +0.7 DEF | 0.8 WAR
Danny Valencia KCR
119 PA | 100 wRC+ | +3.5 DEF | 0.5 WAR

2013
Jose Iglesias BOS
234 PA | 115 wRC+ | +6.2 DEF | 1.8 WAR
David Freese STL
521 PA | 105 wRC+ | -7.4 DEF | 0.5 WAR

2012
Joaquin Arias SFG
344 PA | 90 wRC+ | +0.5 DEF | 0.6 WAR
Omar Infante DET
241 PA | 77 wRC+ | -0.9 DEF | 0.3 WAR

2011
Colby Rasmus STL
386 PA | 110 wRC+ | -8.1 DEF | 1.0 WAR
Nelson Cruz TEX
513 PA | 116 wRC+ | -12.2 DEF | 1.4 WAR

2010
Eli Whiteside SFG
252 PA | 92 wRC+ | +6.5 DEF | 0.9 WAR 
Mitch Moreland TEX
173 PA | 115 wRC+ | -3.1 DEF | 0.7 WAR  

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