Game 14: Packers @ Broncos - Sunday, Dec. 14th @ 3:25 PM

[homer]

3 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

The future was not mortgaged, not with our history of first round draft picks. The Rams allegedly mortgaged the future when they traded for Stafford. Three years and one championship later, they are the odds-on favorite to win it again.

yeah they ran incredibly unlucky with injuries this year. They'll contend next year. It's not like they were losing 2nd and 3rd string guys. It's literally the top 5 or 6 guys on the entire team.

[adambr2]

3 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

The future was not mortgaged, not with our history of first round draft picks. The Rams allegedly mortgaged the future when they traded for Stafford. Three years and one championship later, they are the odds-on favorite to win it again.

Correct. I couldn’t care less about the firsts we gave up. Are we really in a worse position without Matthew Golden, Jordan Morgan, and Lukas Van Ness on this roster?

 

[wOOgiE22]

Well that was pretty much the worst case scenario. Only thing that would have put the cherry on top would have been Love going down. 

We will see who steps up, but this looks like a 7 seed and round 1 flameout. How things change in 5 game minutes. 

[homer]

Mahomes tore his acl. I'd rather be a packer fan than a chiefs fan

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Mahomes isn't as dependent on burst and agility as an edge whose game is essentially reliant on those things. 

He's entering the stage of his career where he has to change how he's plays a bit, but he could still be really good for another 10 years. Parsons likely had a few great years left at best. He will spend 1 of those rehabbing an injury he's not likely to come back the same from. Today is catastrophic in every sense. There's no way around it. The rest of this year is lost and you just hope they salvage next year. 

[HarryDoyle]

3 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Correct. I couldn’t care less about the firsts we gave up. Are we really in a worse position without Matthew Golden, Jordan Morgan, and Lukas Van Ness on this roster?

 

Golden will still be a great player for us when MLF decides to actually use him. We still have our core coming back next year, and hopefully Gute will improve our corners and offensive line in the offseason.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Just now, HarryDoyle said:

Golden will still be a great player for us when MLF decides to actually use him. We still have our core coming back next year, and hopefully Gute will improve our corners and offensive line in the offseason.

Asking a lot of the guy who signed Banks and Hobbs. 

[adambr2]

Just now, HarryDoyle said:

Golden will still be a great player for us when MLF decides to actually use him. We still have our core coming back next year, and hopefully Gute will improve our corners and offensive line in the offseason.

I sure hope he does a more inspiring job this time than overpaying Aaron Banks and Nate Hobbs. 

[yourout]

7 minutes ago, homer said:

Mahomes tore his acl. I'd rather be a packer fan than a chiefs fan

Yeah who would want all those super bowl rings

[HarryDoyle]

8 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Asking a lot of the guy who signed Banks and Hobbs. 

He also signed McKinney and Jacobs the year before. It's a wash, but Gute is still capable of improving the roster.

[BrewerFan]

29 minutes ago, Brian said:

The Party's over. 

 

This board can be fairly pessimistic... but... it's absolutely over. 

I really think the best thing you can root for the rest of the year is to see guys like Sorrell, Golden, Morgan maybe... I don't know who else, but just go with the young guys. 

I'll just have to look forward to Kraft, Watson, Tom, year 2 Golden on offense and Parsons and hopefully some upgrades at CB next year. 

But... that's a wrap this year. Even if they play in the playoffs... they're not a threat to really do much. Certainly not win multiple games. 

[BrewerFan]

11 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

Golden will still be a great player for us when MLF decides to actually use him. We still have our core coming back next year, and hopefully Gute will improve our corners and offensive line in the offseason.

We should absolutely be in contention next year and hopefully better. Hopefully we'll have a reasonably healthy year(by NFL standards).

We had two bad FA signings that we'll likely get out of, but Gute has been pretty good in FA overall.

 

This was why I wasn't as eager to trade for Garrett(though two 1sts, I certainly would have) but he's almost 30. Parsons is 26. He'll be back. 

Move on from Jenkins, Banks, Hobbs... and go for it next year. This team was good enough to win WITH Watson, Parsons and Tom. I'm not giving up on the whole Jordan Love era. Just this season.

 

But **** this sucks. 

[wOOgiE22]

I would say best case scenario is Parsons being back by late September next year if his rehab is close to Watson’s from this year.  What a crazy injury year.   I feel like everything has to line up right injury wise to win a Super Bowl now a days. 

[Brian]

1 minute ago, BrewerFan said:

This board can be fairly pessimistic... but... it's absolutely over. 

I really think the best thing you can root for the rest of the year is to see guys like Sorrell, Golden, Morgan maybe... I don't know who else, but just go with the young guys. 

I'll just have to look forward to Kraft, Watson, Tom, year 2 Golden on offense and Parsons and hopefully some upgrades at CB next year. 

But... that's a wrap this year. Even if they play in the playoffs... they're not a threat to really do much. Certainly not win multiple games. 

Matt Lafleur looked like he was almost in tears at postgame interview. 

[BrewerFan]

25 minutes ago, homer said:

yeah they ran incredibly unlucky with injuries this year. They'll contend next year. It's not like they were losing 2nd and 3rd string guys. It's literally the top 5 or 6 guys on the entire team.

Love
Parsons
Tom and Watson are a close 3/4
Wyatt
Kraft

They're in the top 10. I'd say Cooper, Gary, Reed... maybe Wooden are the 10 most important players on this team. But 4 of the 5 most important are done. 

[BrewerFan]

3 minutes ago, wOOgiE22 said:

I would say best case scenario is Parsons being back by late September next year if his rehab is close to Watson’s from this year.  What a crazy injury year.   I feel like everything has to line up right injury wise to win a Super Bowl now a days. 

Yeah, it kinda does. Some teams have a little more margin for error, but... nobody has THIS much margin for error. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

1 minute ago, wOOgiE22 said:

I would say best case scenario is Parsons being back by late September next year if his rehab is close to Watson’s from this year.  What a crazy injury year.   I feel like everything has to line up right injury wise to win a Super Bowl now a days. 

The future of football, and we're halfway there, is playing to go 10-7 so that your key guys are available in January. Every sport has followed this trajectory. 

We lose this game without injuries and we're fine. But now the whole thing is donezo. Teams won't ignore that. 

I legit thought this team had a punchers chance even at 7 with those guys playing. That was likely traveling to Chicago round 1. That's winnable. Now I couldn't care less.

[adambr2]

Not that I disagree, but it’s crazy how many people think we’re absolutely toast because of Parsons.

I mean if that’s the case, the guys running this organization aren’t doing a very good job at it because I assume you would have also felt we were toast on August 27th, the day before we traded for Parsons. What happened to “youngest team in the league, up and coming, etc etc”?

I get that Parsons hasn’t been the only guy lost obviously but everyone was still high on our chances up until the moment he went down.

[HarryDoyle]

Our magic number is still two to make the playoffs. Yeah, it'll probably be one and done again but it's still good to at least play January football.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Just now, adambr2 said:

Not that I disagree, but it’s crazy how many people think we’re absolutely toast because of Parsons.

I mean if that’s the case, the guys running this organization aren’t doing a very good job at it because I assume you would have also felt we were toast on August 27th, the day before we traded for Parsons. What happened to “youngest team in the league, up and coming, etc etc”?

I was pretty down on this team prior to that trade. I thought they were borderline playoff qualifier. Did very little to get better. I figured they'd be competitive and fun enough to watch, but not a real threat. Now take away Wyatt, Kraft, Watson, Tom? I'd have said they're 4-13. 

[young guns]

Losing all 3 of those players over the course of the season would suck.  Losing them all in the same game is beyond cruel.

[homer]

28 minutes ago, yourout said:

Yeah who would want all those super bowl rings

I have two as an adult so I'm ok

[homer]

1 minute ago, young guns said:

Losing all 3 of those players over the course of the season would suck.  Losing them all in the same game is beyond cruel.

plus Williams. I was wondering why Zayne Anderson was out there

[adambr2]

4 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

I was pretty down on this team prior to that trade. I thought they were borderline playoff qualifier. Did very little to get better. I figured they'd be competitive and fun enough to watch, but not a real threat. Now take away Wyatt, Kraft, Watson, Tom? I'd have said they're 4-13. 

Kraft hurts, but it’s not like we struggled to move the ball or put up points today.

Watson has been great, but was anyone really counting on anything from him this season anyway? I figured with the recovery, literally anything we got from him this season is gravy anyway.

Losing Wyatt sucks but where has the correlation been? We still held the Broncos under 3 YPC today. It’s not like the run defense has suffered as a result.

Fact is the starting corners on this team are among the worst in football. So we either rush the passer, or we get shredded.

[AKCheesehead]

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