Marlins (Meyer) vs Brewers (Drohan): 7/18/26, 3:10pm

[yourout]

35 minutes ago, willie key said:

I’m going on record in saying I don’t want Freddy Peralta back

It all comes down to the price tag

[BruisedCrew]

Nice win today.

Good to see the offense break out with some 2 run hits. Great recovery by Drohan to bounce back after that frustrating second inning. 

Just scrolling through the thread I didn’t notice anyone complaining about Chourio swinging at the first pitch right after two walks. 

We didn’t stay until the end because 3 hours is long enough to be sitting breathing in “unhealthy” air. Heard the end on the radio on the way home. After appearing in 3 total innings on back to back days, I wonder if Yoho will be sent to Nashville to get a fresh arm for tomorrow and the Mets series. 

[baseball101]

You have only two teams over.500 that have a better record than the Crew over the last 10. The Pirates by one game and the Red Sox at 10-0. Somehow the Crew is one back from the best record in baseball. I’m amazed how many of the fans on this site rarely have anything positive to say about the Crew. Even after some wins.

[BruisedCrew]

42 minutes ago, yourout said:

It all comes down to the price tag

Yes, like any acquisition it comes down to price. But I would like to see it,

Coming back to a familiar environment I think he could be rejuvenated and be a solid addition to the staff without necessarily being considered the ace. 

[edfunderburk]

6 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

Yes, like any acquisition it comes down to price. But I would like to see it,

Coming back to a familiar environment I think he could be rejuvenated and be a solid addition to the staff without necessarily being considered the ace. 

If Milwaukee were to trade for Peralta, would the Brewers ;receive draft pick compensation next year if he signs a large free agent contract?

[TwinsBrewersWorldSeries]

10 minutes ago, baseball101 said:

You have only two teams over.500 that have a better record than the Crew over the last 10. The Pirates by one game and the Red Sox at 10-0. Somehow the Crew is one back from the best record in baseball. I’m amazed how many of the fans on this site rarely have anything positive to say about the Crew. Even after some wins.

I don’t think the posters here are negative.  I sense frustration over a specific game, a specific player, or some of the glaring mistakes that pancakes makes….

but I feel like the board is very grateful for the brewers overall being a very well run franchise.   Could we be better, absolutely, but atleast they are entertaining.

bot sure if we’ll ever reach a WS with this approach, but being relevant year in and year out is pretty fun. 

Sanchez definitely has to go though :)

[baseball101]

6 minutes ago, TwinsBrewersWorldSeries said:

I don’t think the posters here are negative.  I sense frustration over a specific game, a specific player, or some of the glaring mistakes that pancakes makes….

but I feel like the board is very grateful for the brewers overall being a very well run franchise.   Could we be better, absolutely, but atleast they are entertaining.

bot sure if we’ll ever reach a WS with this approach, but being relevant year in and year out is pretty fun. 

Sanchez definitely has to go though :)

Disagree.

1) Murphy is a bad manager

2) Arnold needs to be held accountable 

3) we can’t compete against the top teams(I believe the best record against teams over.500 in the league)

4) Chourio is a disappointment 

5) We suck at hitting. 

6) Can’t enjoy the win because of how inept they were 

It’s endless. You would think the Crew are below.500.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

Honestly, I think part of the IGT negativity is that it's always been that way, but another part is that people actually expect to win every game now? I remember negativity as a kind of jokey, coping mechanism for all the bad baseball we had to watch, but now it feels angrier because there's actually stakes.

[baseball101]

8 minutes ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

Honestly, I think part of the IGT negativity is that it's always been that way, but another part is that people actually expect to win every game now? I remember negativity as a kind of jokey, coping mechanism for all the bad baseball we had to watch, but now it feels angrier because there's actually stakes.

That’s a really good point. Case in point. Crew take 4 of 5 from the Cardinals then get swept by Pitt. Take a look at the July predictions. Actually take a look at every monthly record prediction thread and see how many predicted under vs over actual wins. Even beating expectations is not enough for many posters.

[liveforoctober]

35 minutes ago, baseball101 said:

Disagree.

1) Murphy is a bad manager

2) Arnold needs to be held accountable 

3) we can’t compete against the top teams(I believe the best record against teams over.500 in the league)

4) Chourio is a disappointment 

5) We suck at hitting. 

6) Can’t enjoy the win because of how inept they were 

It’s endless. You would think the Crew are below.500.

My observation through the years is that there are a decent portion of regular posters on these boards who stay away from the IGT because the live game threads are not a good forum for in depth discussion. It's more of a shouting into the void situation. 

The folks looking for non surface level discussion tend to be the level headed variety so removing them from the pool of posters leaves the IGT largely in the hands of the emotional folks... for better or for worse, respectfully.

[Jim French Stepstool]

1 hour ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

Honestly, I think part of the IGT negativity is that it's always been that way, but another part is that people actually expect to win every game now? I remember negativity as a kind of jokey, coping mechanism for all the bad baseball we had to watch, but now it feels angrier because there's actually stakes.

I call the underlined the 'NFL mentality'. In an 18 game (or whatever they play now) season, you lose a few in a row & it can really derail your season. In baseball it sucks, but it's hardly a disaster. I think some are better at dealing with the ups & downs than others. But those who involve themselves with the IGT, more power to them if they enjoy it. I prefer sometimes commenting before, then maybe a few thoughts after the game. In between, the last thing I want to do is dick around with devices when trying to pay attention to what's going on between the lines.

IGTs get a lousy rap on a lot of fan boards. But they exist, and they're active while the game is going on. To each their own.

[yourout]

Compared to buckyville in-game threads this place is zen zone.

[RobertCrawley]

For me, the IGT is hugely entertaining when it involves good information, interesting observations, and especially humor. It’s also great to share the game experience, the highs and lows, with other Fanatics. When the IGT gets too negative, I step off for a while. No big deal 

[baseball101]

51 minutes ago, RobertCrawley said:

For me, the IGT is hugely entertaining when it involves good information, interesting observations, and especially humor. It’s also great to share the game experience, the highs and lows, with other Fanatics. When the IGT gets too negative, I step off for a while. No big deal 

I’m with you that it’s not a big deal. My issue is, many posters in the game threads refuse to believe actual statistics when presented. Maybe the in game threads are dominated by older posters who just refuse to acknowledge today’s advance stats. 

[Blackberry Smoke]

Mitchell is great.  Mitchell sucks.  Murphy is great.  Murphy sucks.  Ortiz awesome.  Get rid of Ortiz.  Sproat for Cy Young.  Why do we keep pitching Sproat.  And this is just the first 4 innings of some games.  Cripes all Friday.

[BruisedCrew]

6 hours ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I call the underlined the 'NFL mentality'. In an 18 game (or whatever they play now) season, you lose a few in a row & it can really derail your season. In baseball it sucks, but it's hardly a disaster. I think some are better at dealing with the ups & downs than others. But those who involve themselves with the IGT, more power to them if they enjoy it. I prefer sometimes commenting before, then maybe a few thoughts after the game. In between, the last thing I want to do is dick around with devices when trying to pay attention to what's going on between the lines.

IGTs get a lousy rap on a lot of fan boards. But they exist, and they're active while the game is going on. To each their own.

I disagree with the “NFL mentality” analogy that people have been throwing around for years.

It’s not that people expect the team to win every game. The way I look at it, every game counts. And today, today’s game is the only one that matters. And when a team has high goals and expectations every game counts more than for a team that has little hope for finishing over .500 (eg, the Brewers from 1993 to 2006) Fans know that even in a 162 game season playoff positions can be decided by 1 game.

When I look at the IGT, I separate the comments that reflect an immediate reaction to something that happens in the game from those that make broader comments. It doesn’t take long to identify the posters who frequently make the latter types of comments and shrug them off.

It’s also easy to recognize the posters who regularly criticize IGT threads in an apparent attempt to claim to be more level headed than the other poor irrational souls. If the IGT threads bothered me that much I would simply stay away from them,

[BruisedCrew]

5 hours ago, baseball101 said:

I’m with you that it’s not a big deal. My issue is, many posters in the game threads refuse to believe actual statistics when presented. Maybe the in game threads are dominated by older posters who just refuse to acknowledge today’s advance stats. 

I’m an older poster and I don’t think I refuse to acknowledge today’s advanced stats. But I do think that they should be part of a discussion, and not viewed as the end of a discussion.

There are so many of those advanced stats that it’s hard to keep track of what they all mean, what they are supposed to measure, and how relevant they really are.
 

When you dig deeper, some of those stats may not be as meaningful as they are made out to be. It seems that if someone is trying to take the position that a certain player or team is good or bad, or better or worse, than another player or team, they can come up with some stat that supports their position  

 

 

[TwinsBrewersWorldSeries]

6 hours ago, baseball101 said:

I’m with you that it’s not a big deal. My issue is, many posters in the game threads refuse to believe actual statistics when presented. Maybe the in game threads are dominated by older posters who just refuse to acknowledge today’s advance stats. 

You calling me old? :P

[igor67]

The sad truth as someone who started with Brewerfan at the beginning when I was still in college, is I'm closer to an older fan than I would like... I should probably be traded to another fan's message boards for a Poster to Be Named Later

[RobertCrawley]

7 hours ago, baseball101 said:

I’m with you that it’s not a big deal. My issue is, many posters in the game threads refuse to believe actual statistics when presented. Maybe the in game threads are dominated by older posters who just refuse to acknowledge today’s advance stats. 

I'm not sure what you mean by belief in actual statistics. Are you suggesting that they are the most important consideration in player evaluation, that their predictive value is the most important consideration in in-game decisions, or something else?

You mention older posters and today's advanced stats, but of course the work of Bill James has been around for a long time. And even Bill James himself cautions about relying too much on advanced stats to make decisions about players. 

I agree advanced stats are a critical element of the game, but it's still a very human game for a lot of reasons, and why the game is played instead of determined by computer simulation. A good manager uses advanced stats, his knowledge of the game, his players, the opponent, etc. to win games.

It's also worth noting that studies show that luck influences MLB games at the rate of 28 percent. Advanced stats won't help here either. But wearing your lucky t-shirt will.

[BruisedCrew]

I think we could have an interesting discussion outside of a game thread on the subject of advanced statistics.

I think there is a very important distinction between “believing” a statistic that measures past performance and evaluating what it means with respect to future performance and results.