2027 Roster/Salary

[sveumrules]

Just now, wallus said:

WC had under 3 bwar this season and his offensive numbers have gone down. Let that sink in before we throw a large % of our payroll to him

In 2025 Contreras played through the busted up finger which surely impacted his offensive numbers, and this year he went into an almost two month funk that lined up pretty well with the devastating earthquakes in Venezuela which dragged down his seasonal line considerably...

Thru June 23rd
318 PA of 113 wRC+

June 24th thru August 19th
191 PA of 72 wRC+

August 20th to end of Regular Season
131 PA of 152 wRC+

Postseason
58 PA of 185 wRC+

Chourio had a similar progression at 200 PA of 137 wRC+ thru June 23rd, 242 PA of 103 wRC+ from June 24th thru August 25th, then 131 PA of 167 wRC+ thru the end of the regular season.

Pretty sure that BRef does not award credit to catchers for pitch framing in their WAR calculations either. For his four years with the Brewers BRef has him at -1 FLD and 15.3 WAR versus +15.2 FLD and 18.0 WAR at FanGraphs.

I'd also imagine on account of the various intangibles (managing the staff, clubhouse leadership) that the team values him more highly than publicly available WAR numbers. 

[RobertCrawley]

1 hour ago, sveumrules said:

Cal Raleigh signed for 6/$105M when he was still three years from FA.

Contreras isn't signing for less than that when he is only one year away from FA (& coming off World Series MVP).

Would think the bare minimum is topping the 5/$115.5M that Realmuto signed for back in 2021.

When all the excitement is done next year and they are sitting at conference table, the main topic of conversation will be money. That's why, unfortunately, I don't think it's realistic for fans to think Contreras is our long term solution to catcher. The good news is that there is always a possibility that we can get better with a great trade.

[markedman5]

I don’t think we trade Mitchell this offseason………he has 2 years of Arby’s left and won’t be that expensive.

i like Lara but I’m not ready to hand him the starting cf job just yet.

[Jopal78]

56 minutes ago, RobertCrawley said:

When all the excitement is done next year and they are sitting at conference table, the main topic of conversation will be money. That's why, unfortunately, I don't think it's realistic for fans to think Contreras is our long term solution to catcher. The good news is that there is always a possibility that we can get better with a great trade.

Then again temper your expectations of what you get in today’s game for a veteran player with one season of control.
 

Look no further than Freddy Peralta (the most valuable commodity a starting pitcher). Time will tell on Jett Williams and Brandon Sproat, but the immediate impact from the players they got for Peralta has been next to nothing.  

[markedman5]

Assuming the season starts on time( I know a big if)……..what do we think this world championship does for attendance next season? I mean I’m think 3 million is a real possibility……..

[wallus]

1 hour ago, sveumrules said:

In 2025 Contreras played through the busted up finger which surely impacted his offensive numbers, and this year he went into an almost two month funk that lined up pretty well with the devastating earthquakes in Venezuela which dragged down his seasonal line considerably...

Thru June 23rd
318 PA of 113 wRC+

June 24th thru August 19th
191 PA of 72 wRC+

August 20th to end of Regular Season
131 PA of 152 wRC+

Postseason
58 PA of 185 wRC+

Chourio had a similar progression at 200 PA of 137 wRC+ thru June 23rd, 242 PA of 103 wRC+ from June 24th thru August 25th, then 131 PA of 167 wRC+ thru the end of the regular season.

Pretty sure that BRef does not award credit to catchers for pitch framing in their WAR calculations either. For his four years with the Brewers BRef has him at -1 FLD and 15.3 WAR versus +15.2 FLD and 18.0 WAR at FanGraphs.

I'd also imagine on account of the various intangibles (managing the staff, clubhouse leadership) that the team values him more highly than publicly available WAR numbers. 

Well fwar has him at 3.0 so not much better. I just think there is a lot of recency bias going on here.

[Mr Southpaw]

1 hour ago, markedman5 said:

I don’t think we trade Mitchell this offseason………he has 2 years of Arby’s left and won’t be that expensive.

i like Lara but I’m not ready to hand him the starting cf job just yet.

What do you do when he gets injured next year? I say sell high.

[wallus]

3 minutes ago, Mr Southpaw said:

What do you do when he gets injured next year? I say sell high.

Mentioned in another thread but he was the healhiest of our top 5 outfielders last year. We will need them all

[82brewcrew82]

7 minutes ago, Mr Southpaw said:

What do you do when he gets injured next year? I say sell high.

What do you do if he doesn't get injured next year?  He was fine all year.

[markedman5]

15 minutes ago, Mr Southpaw said:

What do you do when he gets injured next year? I say sell high.

He had fluke injuries……..by that logic we should trade Miz now because he could get hurt next season or the year after…….think about how much they could get for him!

[long ball]

1 hour ago, markedman5 said:

Assuming the season starts on time( I know a big if)……..what do we think this world championship does for attendance next season? I mean I’m think 3 million is a real possibility……..

I think it would be cool to get back to 3m. Maybe they get an added boost early in the season with the excitement coming off the World Series. That’s really where they can make up attendance since they’re generally really well attended in the summer. 
 

maybe a few more season ticket packages get sold with people wanting better access to playoff tickets for next year after they saw how expensive it was to buy secondary market World Series tickets (not going to lie, I’ve thought about getting a 20 game pack which I haven’t had since 2019. Just hard for me to put them to use with 2 kids under 3 and living 2ish hours away)