Brewers Unlikely To Re-sign Willy Adames: "There’s A Lot Deeper Pockets Out There"

I'm ok with it as long as we sign a power hitter to play 3B.... Really excited to watch Ortiz and Turang up the middle next season!

I think the best option to fill the Adames void in the infield is to explore a Bo Bichette trade with the Blue Jays. You gotta like his chances for a rebound heading into free agency and he'd serve as a nice bridge to Boeve/Wilken. Prospect cost won't be exorbitant given how much he's due to earn in arbitration. 

36 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I think the best option to fill the Adames void in the infield is to explore a Bo Bichette trade with the Blue Jays. You gotta like his chances for a rebound heading into free agency and he'd serve as a nice bridge to Boeve/Wilken. Prospect cost won't be exorbitant given how much he's due to earn in arbitration. 

 Blue Jays are going to want 1 top 100 talent to move Bichette. Brewers shouldn't be moving that type of talent for rentals.

1 minute ago, Redd Vencher said:

 Blue Jays are going to want 1 top 100 talent to move Bichette. Brewers shouldn't be moving that type of talent for rentals.

I mean they can ask for it but I don't think they're guaranteed to get it given Bichette's salary vs. his production this season. BTV, which is admittedly not perfect, has him with negative value. I think negative value is a bit low as it undersells his previous years' production, but this year is going to eat at a good chunk of his value which is limited to begin with as a one year rental. 

Also depends on the prospect. If the cost was Tyler Black, for example, I'd be fine giving that up. 

The reality of the situation is this:

We need to add a bat to this line-up based on 2024.

Now we need to add two bats, one to replace Adames, and one to just plain add.

We'll have Yelich back, but that doesn't count. We need to add another 2 bats to Yelich, Chourio, and Contreras,

Where we add those bats and who they will be is for the front office to figure out, but it has to be legit candidates, not wish and a prayer type players.

On top of that, we have to improve the starting rotation, so I'm not sure all of it can or will all be addressed this off season.

9 minutes ago, TURBO said:

The reality of the situation is this:

We need to add a bat to this line-up based on 2024.

Now we need to add two bats, one to replace Adames, and one to just plain add.

We'll have Yelich back, but that doesn't count. We need to add another 2 bats to Yelich, Chourio, and Contreras,

Where we add those bats and who they will be is for the front office to figure out, but it has to be legit candidates, not wish and a prayer type players.

On top of that, we have to improve the starting rotation, so I'm not sure all of it can or will all be addressed this off season.

Generally fair and all.    But I'd say there is a logic in one being 'good enough' all things considered with our budgets. Essentially one to replace a big chunk of what Adames did this year, though unlikely all of it.   The the '2nd' along with covering the rest of Adames is helped by Chourio being good all year rather than awful for 2 months, Mitchell if healthy should be noticeably better than the OFs we've played this year, hopefully 120 games instead of 70 from yelich, Hoskins year 2 improvement after injury like a Winker did this year, general slight improvements from Ortiz and Turang, Black should be at least slightly better than Bauers.

OF course not all those will happen but several of them should put a dent in covering the rest of Adames along with wanting more or a '2nd' guy like you said.   But yea of course getting an IF to replace Adames and one more legit known hitter for the OF/DH/1B rotation I'm not gonna complain either.

47 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I mean they can ask for it but I don't think they're guaranteed to get it given Bichette's salary vs. his production this season. BTV, which is admittedly not perfect, has him with negative value. I think negative value is a bit low as it undersells his previous years' production, but this year is going to eat at a good chunk of his value which is limited to begin with as a one year rental. 

Also depends on the prospect. If the cost was Tyler Black, for example, I'd be fine giving that up. 

Yeah BTV isn't living in reality on this one. I would not give up Tyler Black for a 1 year rental.

33 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Peralta, Myers, Rea, Civale will all be back.

Woodruff and Gasser coming off injury.

Front office could still view Hall or Ashby as rotation options next year.

Misio, Logan Henderson, KC Hunt, Shane Smith, Chad Patrick, Carlos Rodriguez at AAA.

I'm sure they'll add some more depth options around the edges, but I don't really foresee any big payroll type additions to the staff.

They've got a ton of SP depth, and a pretty good 40 Man roster crunch coming this offseason. They're dedinitely going to focus on minor league rotation depth over a guaranteed 40 man roster spot if they add SP.

I'd also add Coleman Crow to the AAA rotation depth next year, especially if he performs well in the Fall League.

23 hours ago, nate82 said:

The best option would probably be a trade with the Dbacks for Suarez. 

No way, Suarez strikes out way too much for the Brewers taste.

Best option is for the Brewers to go back to the Orioles.  They need to make room for Holliday, leaving Westburg and Urias for one spot.

Urias is the cheaper option.  He's under control for two more seasons and was a 1 fWAR/1.5 bWAR player in only 300 PA's last year.  Struck out less than 20% of the time last season, average walk rate, average defensively.

But the Orioles need a closer.  Devin Williams headlining a package for Westburg is the best option..

11 hours ago, LouisEly said:

No way, Suarez strikes out way too much for the Brewers taste.

Best option is for the Brewers to go back to the Orioles.  They need to make room for Holliday, leaving Westburg and Urias for one spot.

Urias is the cheaper option.  He's under control for two more seasons and was a 1 fWAR/1.5 bWAR player in only 300 PA's last year.  Struck out less than 20% of the time last season, average walk rate, average defensively.

But the Orioles need a closer.  Devin Williams headlining a package for Westburg is the best option..

Devin Williams isn't headlining a package for Jordan Westburg, though.

11 hours ago, LouisEly said:

But the Orioles need a closer.  Devin Williams headlining a package for Westburg is the best option..

The Orioles DO NOT need a closer.  Felix Bautista will be back for them.

Willy is an 80 grade teammate and person but his defense falling off a cliff is alarming. The eye test matches the stats on this as well.

I agree the crew need to find a legit 3rd baseman 

On 10/3/2024 at 6:40 AM, nate82 said:

3B is a black hole in FA.  The best option is Bregman and it would be better to pay Adames over Bregman. 

This is the 2025 FA for 3B:

There really isn't anyone interesting at all.  The best option would probably be a trade with the Dbacks for Suarez.  But I think the Dbacks would be looking for starting pitching in return in that deal. 

I'm curious whether there's any possibility of the Brewers re-exploring the possibility of Frelick at 3B. I'm on neither side of that fence as I have no clue how viable he is at the position.  But if he CAN play it well in 2025 that would potentially solve some things.

Heyman said today that the Dodgers will pursue Adames

2 hours ago, markedman5 said:

Heyman said today that the Dodgers will pursue Adames

...and water is wet.

I'll be shocked if Adames isn't in Dodger blue next season.  If that is the case, I hope he drains them dry!