That's a laughable defense of Melvin... the best players on that list weren't actually prospects anymore when they were acquired... Overbay, Cappy, Moeller, Obemueller.... the only potential impact player on that entire list talent wise was JDLR., the best performer stat wise was Cappy. Pointing to trades of incredibly midling prospects as proof that Melvin does indeed trade for young talent is disingenuous at best. It's like pointing to Wolf as proof his FA pitching acquisitions have been successful on the whole. It's as silly a claim as when Chase Wright was acquired to provide quality starting pitching depth. I really like Villy, always have, he's one of the few soft tossers I've ever gotten behind, but he overachieved his prospect status by a wide margin, look who we traded for him. I've basically said all I've had to say about the way Melvin cycles talent in 100s of previous posts. I think acquiring Morgan for Dykstra saved the season, and he basically stole K-Rod for peanuts. Short of that he's usually overpaid talent wise to acquire the name the players he's gone after, people will try to circularly justify the trades, especially if they happen to like Melvin. Objectively, there's simply no way Marcum and Lawrie was an even deal talent wise, I posted it at the time, and I still believe it now, and this is coming from a poster that always thought Marcum should have been the focus of the Overbay deal with Toronto. Again, he's one of the few soft tossers I've ever latched onto, though when I latched onto him he was throwing significantly harder than he is now. People are going to believe what they want to believe, but trading for warm bodies or players with high floors isn't the same as trading for young talent.... to trade for young talent the player actually has to possess talent, he has to have a high ceiling. We haven't traded for any young impact talent since the Sexson deal and 1 player in that deal had the talent to be an all-star caliber player year in and year out, that was JDLR. All the rest of the players were league average stop gaps just pushing the club towards respectability while we waited for the cavalry from our minor league system to arrive. I'm glad my silly and laughable defense of Melvin brightened your day. However, if you had followed my posts you would have realized I wasn't defending Melvin. I was simply stating that in general he has traded for prospects as opposed to sending them away, never mentioning if that was a positive or a negative in terms of how I view his overall performance. If you want to qualify that by the quality of the prospects he has brought back go for it, I was just providing the raw numbers. Interpret them and disqualify certain players by your arbitrary rules all you want, it doesn't effect that overall list or his intentions at the time of those trades.