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It means... *queues Buffalo Springfield music* There's something happening here... But what it is ain't exactly clear... Stop, children, what's that sound? EV'rybody look what's goin' down.

Not everything in life is about money. The team you work with (i.e. both front office and players), the conditions and location of where you work, and other benefits (i.e. maybe more front office responsibilities) might all play into it. Saying it is all about money is a bit short-sighted for a manager.

Not sure where I demanded perfection... I just said it was a bad pass as it was late. A factual statement that no one has debated. Doubs was square with two hands on it. He twisted his body back to the left while running to his right. Immediately after that picture, he falls on his butt because he had to twist and stop his momentum just to get two hands on it. Video is the best, but take your picture and this picture and you see where Doubs momentum was taking him. He looks "square" in the first picture as if he was simply standing there, but he wasn't. This second picture (a split second later) you see how far behind him he is reaching. That is what his momentum was doing to him. I made one statement: It was bad because it was late. I stand by it. Love not having any other options, not having time, having to make a great adjustment just to get it that close (which is absolutely true) are all irrelevant to whether the actual throw was good or not.

Oddly, defense seems to be the least of their probs (not that it isn't a problem). The offense just had a bye week and a mini-bye week and still can't seem to fix a single problem they have. MLF is sounding like a broken record.

Do you mean because Giannis extended and isn't moving to the Knicks, Boston, or other preferred East Coast sports location? Or something else?

Agreed. If that HAS to be the only option, then he did a good job finding a way to get it in there. And it probably wasn't a horrible decision to do it. He just continues to be a tick behind in making those plays.

You missed the point. He made a nice adjustment based on the defender. He dropped his arm angle to make it in a tight window. I acknowledged it was a nice play to get it in there. But the result of all the adjustments meant he was late on the throw. Doubs slows down and twists to get both hands on it (yes, he probably should've caught it), but a regular theme on Love's throws was ... he was late.

Nice to see Locke settle in the game. He certainly has been able to move the ball better than Mordecai did. I've had lower expectations this year as a transition year, but will be nice to see him grow into his game. I feel better about beating MN too.

I maybe the only one, but I'm with you. Great play to see a player, adjust the arm angle and find a slot to throw it... but the throw was late and thus behind Doubs, who only got two hands on it by twisting backwards. Bad throw.

Just from the timing... I suspect something more team related (Dame, coaching differences, etc..). Hope all is well with the family.

Or he simply isn't accurate as a QB? Yes, a comparison with other NFL QBs would be great. Every other QB in the league has a better completion percentage. I doubt it is because they are all throwing from favorable conditions.

I've also thought it was BO-vee from somewhere in the draft info, but "I got you Boeve" would make for a lot of good jokes...maybe even some walk-up music? 😄 From some of the write-up, I wonder how much Jeff Cirillo he might have in him? Jeff obviously had a very high average bat and excellent D. Otherwise quite a few similarities from the descriptions (caveat that I've not seen Boeve play): Not terribly fast, limited range at 2nd, contact, hit for average hitter, not big power, does a lot of things well, low K rate.

I didn't mean to insult the Fonz...

Agreed. If he fails somewhere else, the Brewers are more vindicated as they didn't waste MLB ABs on him. But seeing the hot garbage we rolled out (and continue to roll out in the playoffs), it is head-scratching that Huira wasn't given a single chance. Winker's continued ABs was a joke.

I'm not going to rank them in 2 years, because there is simply too much variability... I'll rank them towards their trend (up or down) based on current position. I'll say that the Badgers will always be at the end of the list (especially FB) for expectations of a championship. The law of probability with so many legit reams make it improbable that either make it. Bucks: Trend - Slightly downward. Giannis, Khris, and Dame are not getting youger, but I think they will remain together. Beachamp and AJJ provide some upside coming, but age is our main enemy here. But we also said this after trading for Holliday. The buck's GM Brewers: Trending downward. Our SP pitching dominant window just slammed shut as only 1 of the 3 main SPs will return next year (yes, I'm assuming CB is traded). There is certainly some upside potential with our youth movement. So I assume a big downward trend next year... perhaps in two they can get back to where they were this year. Except we will be complaining about how we can score runs, but can't develop a TOR starter again (deja vu from 10+ years ago). Packers: Trending down. I'm still waiting and watching before I make any definitive statements, but Love is not going in the right direction. My biggest concern is that his one major red flag from college (accuracy) remains his major red flag today. Doesn't seem like that improved in the least. It wouldn't shock me if MLF, Barry, and Love are all gone for next year and a major rebuild is underway. Badger FB: Trending up. It takes time to change a team's philosophy, personnel, offense, and defense. There have already been transfer and recruitment gains. Results will follow. Badger BB: Honestly... I have no idea. Seems like we have some decent recruiting going on, but we still seem to be stuck in neutral. We were pretty bad last year (for our standards), so hopefully "up", but I don't see a NCAA championship anytime in the near future.

Maybe it will all come out in 20 years on a Netflix special... Huirer Things

I really doubt AJJ or MB are the starting SG this year. In the rotation defensively against certain players, yes I can see that, but I doubt they are ready for starter minutes. If either one sniffs the starting lineup, it would be great...but because they took a huge jump skill wise. PC still makes the most sense as a starter to me. He has similar traits to AJJ - smart, athletic, moves without the ball, rebounds - just shorter and shoots better. I think this defense will suit PC well also. Then let Beasley be the 6th man off the bench. I've heard that AJJ might be able to handle the PG responsibilities... Having him take some backup PG minutes on the second team with Beasley, Khris*, Crowder, and Bobby could be fun. *-not stating that Khris won't be a starter, but there is often start minutes overlap with the second team. Having Khris play a lot of minutes with the second team gives him more shot opportunities than with GA and Dame.

Noting that the OP was speculating a 2025 1st round pick. A 2025 1st rounder is essentially equivalent to a 2024 2nd round pick value wise and waiting another year. That isn't exactly true for a high (top 5; maybe top 10) pick, so I guess it depends on what you think about Carolina's chances in 2024. I do love Watson and his physical capabilities are very evident. But he is far from a complete WR also. Not to mention the injury issues. I wouldn't trade him straight up for a 2024 second rounder. But something mid to late round 2024 (equivalent), I'd probably go for. The real question would be "why would Carolina do that?" Do they really see someone that is a 1st round equivalent WR in him and a "must have" now? They wouldn't have two straight years of 1st round picks either.

I have a feeling (hope?) that our offense will be based more on motion and less on 3pt shooters standing outside while watching Giannis or Khris going 1 on 1 (or 1 on 4) inside and waiting on the ball. I expect more pick and roll and movement to go on in the offense now. So while Jackson isn't the ideal SG for the team... having him in a rotation at SG might not be the worse thing in the world. He would theoretically be strong on D and a great passer/slasher in a motion style offense.

There have been a few cases where it looked like the receiver ran the wrong route or wrong depth, but there are far more throws that are obviously off the mark or late (possibly the harder item to fix). When Love checks down the ball to the RB and throws it 3 yards in front of him or behind him, it is hard to blame the RB (since Love simply looks out at him and throws; not throwing to a route). And he has thrown many, many late throws where the DB ends up on top of the WR; several resulting in INTs. Two of his INTs last week were thrown late - one the DB almost was in front of the WR but merely bounced the ball into the air where someone else caught it. So if you are considering why Love has a 55% completion rate, I'd estimate it is a 25% receiver issue and 75% Love issue, IMO

Completion percentage was the big ticket to watch for with Love. It was his "red flag" coming out of college and continues to be his Achilles heel. Percentage completion and yards/attempt are kind of like the OBP and SLG of a MLB batter. If you complete a high percentage, but very low yards/attempt, you won't have much impact. Having a low percentage but higher yds/attempt is kind of like Chris Carter... will have high impact some games and negligible on others. Compare Fields and Love in the bears game: Fields: 65% completion; 5.8 yds/attempt Love: 56% completion; 9.1 yds/attempt If Love can get to a 62-63% completion rate while maintaining a high (around 8.0) yds/attempt, you can win with that QB. Rarely can any QB win regularly in the NFL with a completion rate in the 50s. Of course, the elites are able to complete >65% long term with a average of 8 yards. Since he was mentioned as a Love comp, Cutler for his career was 62% completion with 7.1 yd average. Rodgers was 65.3% and 7.7. Love is current 55.3% and 6.7, so he has a long ways to go.

All OLBs drop into coverage at some point. Yes, it looks odd, but it isn't like he is in 1on1 coverage on a WR. That is what zone occasionally looks like. Now, there are many other reasons to not like the Joe Barry defense...

I think each QB is going to be different. If a QB isn't ready to run the offense, isn't ready to read the D, isn't ready to know his protections... I think putting him out there early is a danger - physically and psychologically. Would Rodgers been great from Day 1? Maybe. Did he benefit from sitting one year? I think so. Did he need to sit three? Probably not. Likewise with Love, I doubt 3 years was best for him, but certainly one or two years helped him. Would Ryan Leaf been better if he sat and learned from a vet first? Or Zach Wilson? Peyton Manning was clearly ready to start day 1, but not all QBs are coming from college. Obviously, it is impossible to truly know... but giving them a year to learn and grow a la Mahomes, isn't the worst thing for a young QB.

I couldn't remember the whole list but I did the analysis a couple years ago. Best way to win a SB is: Have a HOF level QB. In the past - i.e. Marino and Elway were HOF QBs that couldn't win a SB to save their life (until Elway finally did it late in his career which took a HOF level RB to get him there). While QBs like AIkman (highly overrated IMO) won many due to the run game and big defense. Football is so passing focused now that the running game is almost an afterthought. Warner's Rams teams might have been the first team transitioning towards that. With rule changes (e.g. increased PI rules, QB protections), the league doubled down on high offense. But the result is that the SB champion typically goes to the team with the best QB at that moment. How many SB MVPs of the last 20 years weren't QBs? So yes, Mahomes and Brady have a virtual monopoly on SB wins because they were most often the best QB of the moment. I think those ironically are the only two that won a SB before the final year of their rookie contract also. Inexperienced QBs have a tough time beating the best of the best. So if you want to deploy the QB on the rookie contract rule, you better have an awesome defense or you better find that next "special HOF-level" QB.