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I'll guarantee Anderson out-hits the Babe this year. I mean the Babe didn't even crack the MLB last year.

Digging into his past a bit for a few nuggets: His career minor league numbers are 261/339/416/755. Making it seem that his 800+ OPS years (at age 26 and 27) were his upper end. His career MLB numbers are just about the same: 256/341/410/750. Despite the decline in his bat, his bWAR was still positive the last 5 years (3.0, 3.3, 1.8, 1.3, 0.3). His defensive bWAR is normally slightly above average (0.4-0.8) until last year when it was minimally below (-0.4) 2021 - Left Shoulder subluxation- went on IR twice for this, including the 60 day to end the season. 2022 - Hit IR 3 times, including a left Shoulder strain. So if healthy, I'd guess he'd give us a 750 OPS with decent defense and 1.5-2.0 WAR. That would be a slight offensive improvement on Urias with about the same D.

Wasn't Correa Exhibit A, B, and C? 😅

Seattle trading for Rodgers and then drafting a successor QB would be pretty funny...

Yes, more likely the later and of course extentions can still come.... but not signing is a leverage tactic if the Brewers and his agent are currently in discussions.

Might Corbin's lack of contract indicate they are trying to sign a longer term deal and buy out a FA year or two? Or does it mean Corbin is playing hardball on arby numbers...indicating we don't have a prayer for his FA years. Just a guess but I think Rowdy will end the year at 2-3WAR.

Clark played quite a bit of DE with Slaton in on early downs and then moved in for pass rush downs. Given TJ's improvements, I wouldn't be surprised if that continues. I'm not banking on Ford or Slayton for much except maybe one of them stepping up enough to be a backup. If you go into TC with Ford, Slayton, a vet minimum, a mid-round draft pick, and a couple UDFAs, you will likely find two decent backups to the starting 3.

QB - Rodgers, Love, Etling - I'm guessing only one of Rodgers/Love will survive this offseason. I could see a mid-round selection happening in that case. RB - Jones, Dillon, Goodson, Taylor. Jones is the playmaker. Dillon is a starting caliber RB, but not overly dangerous. Group is solid as a whole. There is a short term risk that Jones is cut for salary cap reasons and longer term risk in his health. If cut, a higher playmaker pick could be necessary. If not, a lower level development RB would be good. WR - Doubs, Watson, Toure, *Others. Cobb and Lazard are FAs. I can see Lazard coming back as he is more valuable to us than to other teams. I'm guessing Cobb is gone. There is good upside in what we have but also risk. We also have zero depth (*not even worth mentioning the various players we churned through on the PS). Using our 1st round pick wouldn't be surprising based on need...except we normally don't. TE - Deguara, *Others. Tonyan, Lewis, and Davis are all FAs. I think Tonyan is going to be a hot commodity as an upside TE (got better the further into his recovery). If Rodgers is here, I see Mercedes coming back otherwise retired. Davis could probably return, but is that good? Pretty bad situation as high draft capitol often doesn't produce year 1. But still need to invest here. OL - Bakh, Jenkins, Myers, Runyan, Tom, Newman, Jones, Tenuta, Walker, Rhyan, Nijman* - Pretty solid starting 5. Myers plateaued, but still ok. Runyan showed some limitations and could be a target for upgrade. Might need more G depth, but honestly we are pretty solid at T depth. Assuming Bakh stays, I'd be ok standing pat here (but 4th round T/Gs are so good to us...). Nijman is an RFA, but after losing his spot to Tom, will we offer? DL - Clark, TJ Slaton, Wyatt, Chris Slayton, Ford - Decent starting 3. Development depth. Could use a vet backup in case our development players flat-line. Or maybe a mid-round DL. OLB - Gary*, Smith, Enagbare, Garvin - Gary will be out for a while and possibly not overly impactful on early returns. Smith and Enagbare brought pressure, but few sacks in his absence. Hollins was decent as a backup and could return. Using our top pick (#15 ) wouldn't shock me here. ILB - Campbell, Walker, McDuffie. - Actually the best ILB depth we have had in a long time. Barnes was almost a luxury (and as a FA will most likely leave). Grab another mid-late pick with a UDFA or two and we are probably set here. CB - Alexander, Douglas, Stokes, SJC - I wouldn't be opposed to moving Douglas to safety, but he was much better at outside CB than in the slot. Will be interesting to see what they do next year with the first 3. Hopefully Nixon returns. Was surprisingly good as a slot CB and returner. Seems to be more vision on returns than pure speed. If Douglas goes to safety, I see a higher pick at CB necessary. S - Savage, Carpenter, Gaines. In the first half of the season, the thought of these three being our only safeties was terrifying. Gaines proved to have some value in play and Savage did make improvements in the second half. But still this is a glaring hole. Bringing back Ford shouldn't be too hard. But a high draft pick here is probable unless Douglas moves over. ST - Coco, O'Donnell - Will this be the year Crosby hangs it up? I think we could bring him back cheaply. Accuracy is still good, distance is ok, but waning. Coco was a forgotten man, which is ideal for the LS. O'Donnell had a good year. I could see a 6th/7th round draft pick at K if Crosby retires. 1st-3rd round pick priorities: OLB, WR, TE, S/CB 4th-7th round pick priorities: DL, RB, QB, CB/S, K

With Clark, Wyatt, and TJ Slaton, I'd say our starting DL is pretty solid. We also have Ford and Chris Slayton as development players. A vet FA like Reed or a lower (4th/5th) round draft pick with an UDFA or two is probably all we need.

RB is a sneaky need. Even if Jones stays, he has been beat up a lot. If this is an RB that is a major pass catch as well as runner, I don't see an issue with using a 1st round pick. There are general rules of thumb that RBs, S, TE, and MLB aren't good 1st round picks. Generally this is true... but it is also typical that special players at those positions are HUGE difference makers for teams. So if you grab one of them in the first round, you better be sure they are one of the special ones. But boy oh boy if you get one of the special ones. Their rarity makes it hard for other teams to match up with. (e.g. Kelce is the most important weapon Mahome has had). But we also have a LOT of needs: Safety - Amos is probably gone as a FA and starting falling off. Ford and Savage (though improved) don't make a great starting duo. TE - We have Deguara under contract next year. Big Bob could (and should) come back - maybe a one year prove it deal. Marcedes might come back if Rodgers does. But really need some young, talented blood here. WR - Still need to grab another one in the top 3 picks, IMO. OLB - Engebare has been a great pickup. But with Gary out most of the year and P-Smith getting older the more expensive... we could use more here (always need more pass rush). RB - If Jones stays, great time to invest in the next 4th/5th round RB. Or if Jones is cut, then that escalates. OL - 4th rounders are very, very good to us.

So maybe we just hope that "yourout" doesn't watch anymore Bucks BB! ?

Two other ways it could impact the Brewers would be on pitching and defense. Houser has been on the cusp of holding his SP spot and I think this will push him a little bit further down the list. Given how many SPs we have right now, I can't see him starting unless there are injuries. Miley might be negatively impacted by this also, but he starts with a bit more margin than Houser. For defense, I think this helps good range defenders like Turang. Huira keeps getting mentioned at 2B occasionally, but this really amplifies his weaknesses there. Tellez is a zero range defensive player, but that might not matter as much at 1B given his expected bump offensively. These are lesser impacts than offensively (for specific players), but still non-zero impacts.

I think Jevon gets regular minutes in the playoffs as the PG backup and probably a lot of minutes for certain matchups - when full court harassment is needed (i.e. Jevon and Holiday playing together at guard). I'd say he is playing playoff level BB right now. His scoring is wildly inconsistent, but that is mainly because he doesn't shoot much when he is the 5th or 6th option. But his D has been great and scores when opportunity (38% on 3s - right on his career average). I will be quite upset if Hill plays over Jevon again in the playoffs. I could see Grayson being matchup only type player though similar to last year (i.e. lots against the Bulls, little against the Celtics). Wouldn't surprise me to see another SG on the team come the trade deadline, either.

I think there was one or two with Khris and Ingles both back - very early after their return. But I guess you could say they weren't quite a "full strength" yet. I don't mind the occasional vet-sit night if it wasn't every vet sitting all in one game (i.e. Washington on Jan 1). I almost went to the lone Wolves/Bucks game in MSP last season and glad I missed it because no one played. (I did attend this season and treated to a nice Wolf beat-down by Giannis). But that would stink to pay $$$ for an NBA game and see the Bucks put garbage on the court. Giannis the last several games has been incredible though... 42pts, 10 Reb, 1 Ast 45 pts, 14 Reb, 4 Ast 26 pts, 13 Reb, 7 Ast 27 pts, 9 Reb, 3 Ast 45 Pts, 22 Reb, 7 Ast 43 Pts, 20 Reb, 5 Ast 55 Pts, 10 Reb, 7 Ast 30 Pts, 21 Reb, 10 Ast If we can get the support cast to settle and be healthy...

Well, he didn't change his birthday after being traded... ??

The site at least seems to be pretty accurate for the "typical" trades. While not "scientific", I'd imagine there is a learning algorithm behind the scenes to reflect some reality based on past trades. As for my thought with Yelich, I was thinking salary swaps instead of plan cash as someone above mentioned. But per the site, Yelich and Tatis have almost inverted trade values: Y: -112.2 T: 112.5 I was expecting a more neutral (zero) trade level for Yelich and not such a negative. So even if SD wanted to dump Tatis for some reason and needed an OF, Yelich probably doesn't work there. Even if the site trade values are off a bit, I doubt they are off that much.

Not that I think this is true... but what if this was a Yelich+ swap to balance salaries? We unjam our OF, save some short term money for flexibility (or Adames/SP extensions), solve SS/3B (Adames/Tatis or Tatis/Adames) and balance out our LH/RH mix. Edit: nvm... I didn't realize how much negative trade value Yelich has (per baseball trade values anyway).

What is up with Khris' knee? Just being cautious? I was able to watch 1/2 the Bucks game against Boston and they looked good even without him, but I guess they blew up in the second half. Were leading the Bulls all game until late...not sure what happened there either (wasn't able to watch that one either). But yeah... it is preseason games right now...

I'm reading brewmann's post as sarcasm...both players being old and washed up as typical "Brewer moves" and not necessarily advocating for it... Escobar seems like the type of player we need (hits lefties, plays 3B), but also seems like the end result might be McCutchen 2.0...

Yes, we struggle at developing catchers, but we also don't invest capitol for drafting Catchers either. Of that long list of 16 catchers, it includes these high round draft picks: 1st Round (1) - Coulter* 2nd Round (3) - Garfield, Johnson, and Feliciano 3rd Round (2) - Lucroy and Sweet Lou *even though drafted as a catcher, it was widely assumed Coulter couldn't stick there. The fact that he did for a while is either a credit to Brewer development or a failure for not getting him to focus long term on his bat at an easier defensive position. So, there really hasn't been much of a focus on bringing in the talent to succeed either. Can't blame the coaches if a 20th rounder fails - that is the norm. But I guess if we rank pretty high at MLB catcher WAR yet fail to develop our own... we are doing something right. Also, you should fix that spelling error in the article. It should be "Woah SOLVDD"

With the Bucks playing so well, it's kind of surprising to see how poorly they are shooting 3s. Allen, Lopez, and Carter are the only ones hitting 3s well (>39%) with Nwora and Holiday doing OK (~36%). With only Lopez being above normal. Then we have Bobby, Pat, Khris, Matthews, Beauchamp, and Hill all under 33% with Giannis at 26%. So basically, they have been playing at the top of the league and still have a chance to get better by having Pat, Khris, Bobby (and Ingles) hit 3s at a more normal rate. And having Giannis stop shooting them. ?

There have been many players that have talked about how hard it is to be traded for the first time. Its a bit like a break-up - they don't want me anymore. But he has all ST to get to know his new team, coaches, and environment. Not everyone is a good fit for every team, but I doubt that will be the case here.

In our uber-specialized metric based baseball world, any time to take one stat (especially a unique one like RF) to be your hill to die on, you often will. Likewise with scouting reports alone. Statistics say a lot of things, but very few give the entire picture. Take several metrics and combine them with scouting analysis to get a better big picture. He certainly has the tools to be in CF, but not the experience. That seems to be the sum total. Oakland is banking on his tools and going to give him the experience. He certainly has far more potential value in CF than he would in LF, so I wouldn't blame Oakland for doing that. And FYI, "prospect" simply indicates the persons ability to impact the MLB level. Age doesn't eliminate someone from being a prospect...it just reduces their prospects of impacting the MLB level. Sometimes I think we use certain words so long, we forget the intent of why they are used that way.

Toro certainly wasn't the centerpiece of the Wong trade... and I doubt he starts at the MLB (or even appears for more than a cup of coffee) this year. I'm surprised you didn't look at more options like Justin Turner, who the Brewers have pursued in the past and just might be in our $$ range now. I'd say 3B and infield in general is our biggest need at the moment.

For me, Yeager is basically replacing Antoine Kelly on the team. High end arm with control issues. High ceiling, low floor player - a lottery ticket. I don't buy lottery tickets, but I can't complain when someone basically gives us one.