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Just make a thread in transactions/rumors for you to list every player with years/$$$ you want Milw to offer to them today. I'd like to see what you want them to pay the FA you want them to sign. So when another team pays 1 more year and 12-20M more doing so, you are seeing the side of business vs just coming out and saying Brewers need to spend money like-X. When you wouldn't have offered that for them. This will also allow you to vent in one topic where it's actually reasonable to, vs derailing topics and adding pages of comments that just are a waste towards these threads. So take what's left of the top 50FAs and go have a fun ventful day over there. This strawman argument never comes with direct players-salaries-years, just spend money on FAs.. like who/how much&long? Please.

It's the addition to the middle relief shuttle crew while getting a chance in the lab to see if Clark will work in the bullpen without an option next year. See he has had a good season. Gave up HRs last year that will make any RPs season look worse. So the upside must be there for either of the two season types. I see that note above about a pitch that was effective but not used often. It can be amazing the results turning a 5-7pct pitch thrown to 20+ while reducing the ineffective pitch from the arsenal. I'm not torn on who we gave up. We now have a player that has MLB experience with upside for RP.9

It's all about the end game for LA. Glasnow's Fip has been below 3 the last 3 seasons. Show up on the mound in the playoffs in any of these seasons and they are far more likely winning that playoff game than with what? 90pct of starters? These aren't moves to win a division anymore. It's WS when healthy enough. LA has won 11 of 12 division titles and only a freak 2021 season by the Giants did LA lose the division with 106wins by 1 game. Their 2020 WS is "" by it being the shortened pandemic season. They are well overdue for a true WS with their "bites at the apple"

Wouldn't joining the minority ownership team be a decent investment after securing a lease keeping Milw in Milwaukee through 2050 was it? There's no way the value doesn't increase over that period of time. Ralph is getting up there in years. I dunno what his heirs would look like if yhats a move towards that. Or business to bring Johnsonville brand in to a long term commitment by his ownership. I dunno if Johnsonville is served already. Usingers is the ad I always hear through Uecker.

Gotta build that arm for that workload. Hader had the 5+seasons to do it. Miserioski is only through #2. I mention innings limitations. FT-Chorizo mentions limitations to pitch count. Just like we'll see going through ST and 1st 2 Games started its only stellar starts that reach pitching in the 7th inning. That's what Miserioski needs when taking the mounds probably given 30-40-50 escalating limits. See how he's feeling or looking between starts and adjusting accordingly. What may be opening to 70 pitches for 1 start turns back to 50-55 the next 1 or 2. I'm sure there's a stat in gamelogs to post his pitch counts mostly regardless of how his day was going. Checking milb now. No pitch count there. I did find a batters faced on Fangraphs and just going to generalize off that. Start #3 hit 9. Then 10, 13, 14, 15-19 through A+, 22, 18, 22, 22, 23 final starts of season in AA. It's a basic reach of 4 pitches per PA so you were likely looking at 40/50/60/70 and 80-85 counts before pulled. He'll likely have the same type of initial start only 1 start faster. I'll guess looking at that mid being 10/11 starts and final 5 starts in AA cranked up, that he goes 5 mid, ramps to the 80 for this seasons next 10, and your promote 5/6+ starts in AAA opening him to 90+. He'd be ready come 2025 to take the ball after 2 starts 80 pitches deep without concerns jumping to 90 in that start. You keep him down in AAA for service time and call him up when he crosses the 90pitch threshold down there.

Hader was on his 6th season of work in the minors upon getting called up. He'd have long been on the 40man protecting from rule 5 a year+already. Miserioski just completed his 2nd season all with games started. His role has to be one towards SP. He's just so advanced they have him facing AA already. What you have is your Brewers FO next long extension similar to Ashby or Peralta. The Brewers would be wise keeping him in the minors this entire season as it's just his 3rd, saving the 40man spot, and giving him a year more of increasing his innings limit as a SP. If we see him added to the team this season in Sept as a RP, the Brewers are looking the best team in baseball. Misiorowski's addition is belief they are on the road winning a WS with him, not just him joining for the playoffs. So timeline to me is 2024 all in minors as SP. 2025 potential for extension, starts in AAA. You have 1 year of showing off his future starter prowess. So the role is more determined vs questioning if he takes on RP. I'd expect he's long proven his future is a SP. Let's not forget he got to throw to Quero in AA appearances. A soon to be future. (Wonder if Quero starts in AA this year just to be with Misiorowski before AAA promotion) 2025 he'll get the call beyond the Super 2 line if he hasn't gotten that contract. You will not want to go through Super 2 with his ceiling. I'd hope by the end of 2025 he's approaching 130-139 IP. Big jump but he's got the large frame to build off on. So 6 years of control beyond 2026 he's pushing that 160IP this era SP thresholds and past immediately as a full season starter. A call up this season would also come with good vibes they have a 7year+ extension nearly signed and you don't care about Super 2 or starting his clock.

To me Adames being traded-Turang to SS makes Black your OD 2b. Without the trade, I think barring some massive discrepancy Black ST batting vs Monasterio ST, Black starts in AAA for control reasons. You give Monasterio a reason to keep 3rd plus give Black the reason to show to take over 3b. Lh side of a platoon is an option depending how your 1/3b works out. He's not a full platoon bat per say, but it's a rookie idea start with Monasterio at 3b. Option too then for what you try finding in a RH 1b platoon committing to Black for LH side.

Glasnow has the ability to meet Burnes level for higher cost and about 50IP less consistency. Burnes as commented has over 3 times his value. But I could understand valuing Glasnow higher than the BTV site because you know Glasnow is quality when on the mound like Burnes. It's just the health that's not. I honestly didn't realize Glasnow doesn't have 1 single full season of 30+ starts for his career. Talk about a red flag walking. Pepiot would be a heluva get for Tampa. Meanwhile if he's being offered for Glasnow, Burnes+ is pushing Miller territory ahead of Sheehan. Trading for Glasnow using Pepiot doesn't exactly add a full season starter or even more innings than what Glasnow or Pepiot are likely to give LA this season. One is a certainty when taking the mound. The other may continue FiP pitching to a #4/5 Lauer/Rea but get better results than should. Still leaves a need for a more full season of starts ability in the form of Burnes. Or Yamamota. Money that Ohtani saved LA to use towards. Nobody has signed Yamamota yet. So my response on I guess Burnes scratched as a suiter for LA vs the (100pct) I wrote, is referring that in my opinion Burnes is still on LAs radar to pivot to.

Just hope that Pepiot is dealt as he and Stone are two of the 2 SP prospects being suggested to get Burnes, I would hate getting back. Doesn't 100pct end the idea of Burnes to LA. Isn't Yamamota signing what Ohtani leaves room for? The Dodgers don't get him, Burnes (salary) and his innings ability on what would most definitely a win the WS go for it year makes sense as back up.

Right. And having 700M earmarked for his future has to provide him all sorts of options with money credited to him through banks/investing to use to earn(or lose) years ahead to return some(all)? of that money he's losing over time waiting for it.

Good question, wrong thread. Try it in a thread about yelich at 1b. Looked at Wilken stats last night, 6 games at AA less than 180PAs I believe at A/A+. Chourio setting AA records and playing GG defense didn't crack AAA til the very end with 500+ PAs. Wilken will likely gain his experience at AA for near all of 2024. That 6 game sample did come with more K rate. The age level may show that k rate bringing his hitting prowess isn't as high as the A experience to age.

We'll get a good look this season what an Ohtani bat only future value looks like. I said before, he's eclipsed 70M value according to Fangraphs each of the last 2 seasons. With combining the best of each side having a 94M potential value. Or meaning he's not paid enough that season/s. That is pure Ohtani value with no other version what he brings outside of just on field performance. He accomplished 50M with the bat this season that was limited by his pitching. https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/shohei-ohtani-660271?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb He is basically #1, #2 on the batting pcts you see here and that was either steady or improved on the last 2 seasons. So next season expect a bat worth a lot more than 50M from him. Some team had to pay him 600+M. Large market or small market. 700M considering he's had over 140M of value the last 2 seasons, may have been short in terms whats 70M today vs 10 seasons from now. Some team had to sign this deal. Arguing on large market vs small market competitiveness, is doing Ohtani injustice, because his value is equal in pay. This season he gets to go out there and maybe just prove he's worth 70M a year batting alone. 50M seems a shoe-in to me with regard where he sits on Savant and the added batting chances he'll get in 2024 over 2023. Playoffs are a thing to his future that is higher value added to his season's totals of 0 Playoff PA totals. Or pitching. Will the Dodgers miss any playoffs in 10 seasons? Angels missed every one. 10/700M, thinking about that, isn't enough for what Ohtani actually provides currently. That covers his 162 game season. They forgot to pay him what value he can achieve in the playoffs being his 70M 162gm value self during it.

Puke. Why Stone? Not even a plus fastball with control issues? You want an Eric Lauer ceiling, RH. I'm maybe taking him for Adames. Burnes had better fetch something with an actual chance to exceed 3WAR in a season. Lux has 3 years of control remaining. Trade 2 seasons of better players for 3 of a worse and a hopeful #3?

So they should announce it as a 25-35 yr contract imo if they scoot payroll limits because 3-5M is deferred annually beyond what should be 70M per year 10yr guaranteed paid. (Think heard 45M this year, meaning 25M above 70M yearly would need to spread over 9 remaining years with my logic) Is Yelich getting deferred? Or 26?M this year all counting vs Brewers payroll?

Different sport? Ohtani is the maximum get MLB player contract we'll see for at least another 6+years, because who is playing rookie ball two way with Ohtani's talent? The true only way is seeing like a 16yr contract that still needs 52+M. 14 at 62M yr. The original I read on mlbtr I believe was Trout when combined still not reaching 500M. How the Dodgers will manage this 10yr future will be interesting. Luxury tax this how many seasons? Or will they strip payroll a few times to sit below luxury? They do the later, that's a hefty investment in to 1 player that they need to manage below whatever the luxury tax line is. So then it's like Brewers max payroll+Ohtani that season.

Well tbf- Ohtani has actually accumulated enough FG value on both sides to provide 70M+ value. But just barely. Peak season this year's bat and last season pitching he hits 97M value provided. Now of course, he's not pitching to start this contract off. He'll see more PAs to build on a 53M 184OPS+ FA season....but in the NL ballparks West vs AL. Obviously didn't stop Bonds. Actually this could be a fantastic season to be a fan where he's peak age and batting production season to go have a historic season. We all knew he was destined over half Billion. Surprised it hit 700M. Luxury tax I imagine for LA. QO to Burnes or any FA by them is what a 3rd? Or 4th rd pick? Can't trade Burnes to a team who isn't getting bottom 1st rd compensation. Unless that trade happens in July.

That's a big jump. I thought 10/600 was on table with Toronto. He gets 10/700 from LA? Like 620-640 wasn't enough to outbid Tor the last high bidder standing? How many dual seasons played does he need to accumulate say 500M? Once his pitching career goes by the wayside, there's no way he's performing offensely he's worth his seasonally pay of 70M. Let the offseason honestly take off with ohtani no longer waiting who thr winner was

Imo, watching his batting upon return, and up to early parts last season, Yelich was shying away using almost any aggression with that knee vs how natural it was. Far too timid at the plate, I believe, protecting another off his knee. Remember how often he just watched pitches blow by taking them as strikes. He had a small spell there in 23 where he finally showed some of that natural knee move in his swing releasing more in to it aggressively. Didnt last consistently and was infrequent. It's a positive though.

Whoops was the leg an earlier injury predraft/1st year I'm thinking of? Sorry to temper some of the enthusiasm. Black came in with a .938 fielding pct. And a 2.05 range factor at 3b according to BRef. Monasterio registered .960 after a .974 fielding pct in minors. With a range factor above 2.54. I think trial and error will continue to show Black as a 1b/2b fielder. I thought part of scouting read his arm strength destined him towards 2b with the bat not up to "MLB in past" standards for 1b. Pencil him in more imo at 1b/2b. With the caveat he has played games at 3b to do so. You gotta remember some of moving him around the inf is to bring his bat in to Milws lineup the sooner the better.

Mitchell has a 35+pct k rate. Wiemer is just under 29pct. ML level. One is coming off a 5month injury. I'd expect both to be optioned to AAA to start season. Mitchell sits at 1.040 clock. Wiemer exactly 1.00. (Fangraphs #s) Frelick .072 fwiw. Mitchell has high luck working for his positive stats that at 35+pct k rate will regress. His speed may be affected post injury for forever or for just somepoint this following year. Yelich has never recovered fully from his knee cap. You gotta feel cautionary towards Mitchell.

I'd think getting Merrill a top 10 prospect on the rise, would be it. Like Burnes straight up for Merrill and Cronenworth...probably actually including somebody. Btv would put that combo as Milw giving up 37M-33M surplus value due to JC having negative 21M value basically. Like I mentioned-Savant shows JC regressing on the barrell-EV-max EV every season thus far. His rookie season is the best season he will ever have. Think of him as Hiura within 2 years...only he's being paid when he's on a flight that next offseason overseas.

Yes. There was an article last season saying he became a high riser late 2022(Miserioski like) and 2023 possessed the best fastball right now in all the minors. He graduated off the top 100 lists basically before getting a chance to be on them pre-2023 and mid-season 2023. Scouting report is 6-4 I believe with great extension that tumbles his fastballs from 94-98MPH(likely pushing 97-99 with age progression) Has a slower 80s changeup that is working more plus pitch to combo with. Check out the reds you see from savant. Ignore the ML blues as he'll be better with experience. Plus how his young minors stats will translate. 125+IP became his high at end of season so he was filling in rookie rushed stats pitching to ML hitters his final 60IP. Something that would been akin to Brewers starting Miserioski in August. All these Stone-Pepiot-Miller SPs Dodgers have been rushed to ML and I'm not sure 1 of them has pitched over 135IPs in a single season. https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/emmet-sheehan-686218?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb Miller fwiw has even a higher red rate, nearly entirety. Untouchable I imagine. Or you're adding to Burnes to take him. Also adding-scrolled down Sheehans page seen the 2023 comp listing Woodruff and Scherzer (23)among a few others. Yeah you can insert that kind pitcher in to our rotation for 1yr of Burnes while he might be available.

All Savant shows with Cronenworth is a decline on barrel pct, EV, and max EV every year for him(4) increased their launch angle above prime. Has some increase on k pct his last 2 seasons. One would think you avoid them with everything you got. Especially under contract. Reds(good) rookie year. Nearly all blues last year.(bad) Candelario would have been a better get. And I'm glad they didn't pay him 15M because that's remaining a great season. Any dropoff from ceiling, is an over pay.

The overseas players to sign really hinder the moves in a to early to make a move without having those 2-4 players off the market. They need to push the winter meetings a month later after the New Year so those postings, and deals are complete. Too successful lately to not see the result before dealing with what MLB teams already offer.

Savant shows how consistent Santana has been over the course of his career. But the metrics behind him last season did about all lower showing age has hit his production. He should make less money with less years. A placeholder for 1yr. Hoskins looks in Savant like a Santana batting only a full tier above and younger. 3years has to be minimum ask by him if not 4. The money will be higher. Commitment at where he's playing you gotta sell(Trade him next season) you're giving. I don't know where his defense grades via savant. Looks BRef as awful and just blah if left to play 1b. A good reason for Milw to be on him as that would work with that bat in this future lineup. Lastly. Hoskins missed all of 2023 with an ACL injury with no rehab games to base future play affect. That reduces his Yeats to maybe 1+option/mutual that Milw could load up on buyout. There's Black to consider for 1b blocking wanting to make a move. The glut of OFs who may acquire a 1b.