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Neuge was a polarizing prospect who had sky high potential but his career was destroyed by a devastating rotator cuff surgery at 22. He only pitched 61 innings for the Brewers but showed ace potential if he would be able to get his control problems under wraps. Neugebauer attended Arlington High School in Riverside, California, and was drafted out of there by the Milwaukee Brewers with the 56th pick in the 2nd round of the 1998 amateur draft. he was promptly signed to a contract on August 27, 1998. In 1999, in A ball, he pitched 80.1 innings with a 3.90 era 125/80 k/bb. Wait that is nothing in 2000 between High A and AA he through 128 innings with 4.01 era and a 174/134 k/bb, yes this guy walked more than a batter per inning his 1st 2 years and was still thought of as a top mlb/organizational pitcher. In 2021 he showed some command improvement pitching 131 innings with a 3.10 era and a 175/61 k/bb. He made his mlb debut at the end of the year pitching 12 innings in 2 games. Go to 5:40 mark to see a couple pitches and how good his stuff looked in his major league debut. The whole clip is actually a pretty cool blast from the past and the Adam Dunn defense and way the Reds analyst describe the games are great. I remember being a kid and watching that mlb debuting and how psyched I was for this guy to join Ben Sheets. Neugebauer was on the Brewers' major league roster at the start of the 2002 season, projected as the fifth starter in their five-man rotation. At the inception of this season, Baseball America ranked him the seventeenth best prospect in all of baseball and Milwaukee's top prospect. Hampered by a rotator cuff injury suffered during the season, Neugebauer would finish the season with a dismal record of 1 win and 7 losses in 55.1 innings pitched with a 4.72 earned run average. Neugebauer underwent arthroscopic shoulder surgery on February 28, 2003, causing him to miss the entire 2003 season. In a brief comeback attempt with the Brewers' "A advanced" affiliate – the High Desert Mavericks – in 2004, Neugebauer gave up two earned runs on one hit in one inning of work in his only start of the season, finishing him with an 18.00 earned run average for the year. He was released by the Brewers on September 10, 2004 and eventually retired from the sport last pitching at the age of 23. The what-ifs will always be there for me and my favorite player at least for a year or so. Nuege forever. View full player

I will say that I didn't look at Cortez's stats and thought he had a rougher year in the 4's era. I definitely would need to add a decent prospect for that deal.

1) Williams and Chad Patrick for Alec Bohm 2)Rhys to NYY for Nestor Cortes 3)Black, Peguero, and Tate Kuehner for Yandy Diaz 4)Hoby to Tex for lower level prospect 1)LF Chourio 2)C Contreras 3)DH Yeli 4)1B Diaz 5)3B Bohm 6) CF Mitchell 7)2B Turang 8) SS Ortiz 9)RF Frelick C: William Contreras ($7.60M) 1B: Yandy Diaz ($10.00M) 2B: Joey Ortiz ($0.80M) 3B: Alec Bohm ($8.1M) SS: Brice Turang ($0.80M) LF: Jackson Chourio ($4.25M) CF: Garrett Mitchell ($0.80M) RF: Sal Frelick ($0.80M) DH: Christian Yelich ($24.25M) 4th OF: Blake Perkins ($0.80M) Utility: Andrew Monasterio ($0.80M) Utility: Dunn/Collins/EMJ ($0.80M) Backup C: Eric Hasse ($1.80M) NA: Add Dead Money Here ($8.75M) SP1: Freddy Peralta ($8.25M) SP2: Aaron Civale ($8.00M) SP3: Tobias Myers ($0.77M) SP4: Brandon Woodruff ($5.00M) SP5: Nestor Cortez ($8.30M) RP: Bryan Hudson ($0.80M) RP: Trevor Megill ($2.00M) RP: Nick Mears ($0.90M) RP: Jared Koenig ($0.80M) RP: Craig Yoho ($0.80M) RP: Joel Payamps ($2.80M) RP: DL Hall ($0.8M) RP: Aaron Ashby ($3.45M) NA: Add Dead Money Here ($0.00M) Payroll is 13.06% under budget

You could add the money we paid in buyouts, pretty sure that counts against this year's ledger. Sanchez 4, Montas 2. Miley 1.5, Rea 1, Devin .25 total=8.75

I think adding Crow wouldn't make sense. No team is going to take a guy that pitched 24 innings the past 2 years in AA and doesn't have a big arm. If someone does draft him there is almost mo chance they would keep him on the big league roster all year. I would keep Smith and Patrick based on performance and Smith's reliever ability. Patrick was the best AAA pitcher last year, look at how valuable Tobias Myers was. I would keep EMJ if their is roster space, like Crow I doubt he would get drafted but he has way more upside to risk it.

I like Tait and some of the younger prospects but it really is Bohm or bust from Philly.

I think the Pads would good team to get to overpay for Devin however there system has been gutted. I would say someone like Jadher Arienamo who is a borderline top 20 prospect in our system would be like their 4th/5th prospect. They just drafted him but Kash Mayfield would be the only guy I would think of unless they package like 4 lower ranked guys which I don't really like because of our system depth.

I will say that I think Whisenhunt is going to be good, I believe that AAA division is notoriously hitter friendly (I could have the wrong one) 141 k's in 109 innings. My part about him being a potential impact player is a stretch at least for this year, his walks are way higher than I thought. I do believe there is a good trade to be had for Williams with the Giants. Would Robbie Ray (giants eat like 12 million a year) and Lamonte Wade be to much to ask or maybe Wade and Camilo Doval for like Williams and a prospect. What do you all think the price for say Yandy Diaz would be if we could get rid of Rhys. I don't care much about the Lowe end of my proposal earlier but upgrading Rhys to Diaz would be huge. 3 prospects? Black and Henderson? More

I would love Lewis or Lee but my guess is they go 1B Miranda, 2B Lewis, SS Correa, 3B Lee. Eduoard Julien could be available at a lesser price but he has enough question marks, I love their 2B prospect Luke Keaschall but he is only in AA so that doesn't work at least this year.

I am struggling here? Does this say Civale has more trade value than Freddie or Turang.

I like the depth of the Red Sox and think that if we aren't able to get a mlb IF for Devin the Rangers, Red Sox, and D-backs (maybe Dodgers) have the most interesting farm systems to match a Devin trade. The prospects you mentioned are solid, I also wouldn't mind getting David Hamilton back. He fits our team as a team mold and could be a guy that would push Turang to SS and I'd be ok with it. He was worth 2.6 WAR in 88 starts (98 games) 33 sb and had amazing defensive numbers at 2B (8 defensive runs saved in 266 innings). The bat is a lot like Sal and Turang but he fits and would become a great utility potentially.

Wade would be sweet especially if we are going to be making smaller moves here and there.

What about this 1) Rhys, Civale to NYM for 2 lower level lotto style prospects Essentially the Mets get 2 players that fit their short term needs and we get salary relief with a small return to show we got something. 2) Tyler Black, Logan Henderson, Peguero, and Tate Kuehner for Brandon Lowe and Yandy Diaz We use that salary to get 2 perfect bats to fit our team needs. It is a lot to give up but each player has 2 years of reasonably priced control on 2nd year options. The Rays get 3 prospects and Peguero who all seem to be Rays type/style players and save $. 3) Devin to SF for P Carson Whisenhunt and lotto prospect The Giants are stacked at pitcher and Whisenhunt might be about the best prospect we could get who could be an impact player right away. We upgrade the lineup depth immensely, while replacing lost prospect value with Whisenhunt and lotto prospects.

1) It is possible Bohm could be dealt but that is speculation and even then we don't know where the Phillies would value that trade. I agree that I would take Bohm or any proven 3B/2B over prospects but who know if that is doable. In all likelihood Williams goes for prospects. 2) You are probably right on the Luzardo package, I couldn't see him getting less than Trevor Rogers last year Black is probably close to Norby value and Stowers is better than Hicklen (value wise). With Luzardo being more than Rogers 3) Right if we could get Bohm or another IF Mauricio wouldn't be needed. I probably wouldn't do Black and Knoth for Luzardo so at that point I would keep Civale.

I will admit the Luzardo price may be a bit low if you don't consider Black a top 100 prospect. I like the Mets deal a lot because it gives the Mets 2 things they need and Mauricio is mostly block and coming of an injury. I will say that the Williams trade lacks a big name/prospect but for me Harris is almost the same player as Black with some better 1B potential at 6'2", Porter was a top 100 prospect at the start of the year and the OF Cabrera is like Lara with some bigger power potential at only 19. There is no sexy name but we get 1 upside platoon player and to lotto ticket guys with star potential. For me it is like Harris and 2 comp value picks.

With basically 2 lost years to COVID and injury Smith was a true diamond in the rough. It is guys like Smith who make our system so amazing right now. He is likely the 5th starter in AAA but in any other system (even good ones) would likely be the 2nd or 3rd starter. If we look at him as more of a 22 year old AAA pitcher with those number and quality stuff he would probably be a top 10 prospect in almost any organization. I am interested to see if he stays a starter long term just because of our depth there or if he goes to the pen as a long man which I think might be the perfect place for him if our other starting prospects are good to be successful.

1) Trade Devin to Texas for 1B/OF Dustin Harris, P Brock Porter, and OF Yeremi Cabrera This is a bit more upside than best player available. Harris platoons with Rhys, Porter and Cabrera have big ceilings if our system can develop them. 2)Black and Brewer Hicklen for Jesus Luzardo, The Marlins need some bats and we could use an upside arm, Luzardo gives us a big arm that our staff can really help. 3) Civale and Peguero to NYM for Ronny Mauricio With Luzardo on board Civale can be flipped, Mauricio is a huge upside guy we could give 3B a shot or become a top notch utility guy. These are all upside deals, in my mind we flip 1 year of Civale for 2 of Luzardo, Black for Mauricio who fits our 3B need better and fill in the Bauers role and get to high potential prospects for excess relief.

I would be thrilled if Sasaki went to any small market team. If he came to us would we have to rescind most of our other int. offers?

It seems like a ton of tea are reducing salary this offseason. I think it will be a great offseason to just wait and be patient and sign a guy late in the offseason to a super cheap contract. There are really only like 5-8 teams that are likely going to spend a bunch this offseason with like 5-8 more that will be active but not going huge.

News today that Sasaki is going to be posted. There is probably less than 1% chance that he would come here but we could dream. What would the pitch be, we are young and up and coming. The city will love you forever and some sort of be different and choose your own path. My guess is the Dodgers are the favorites with Ohtani and Yomamoto, if they get Sasaki for peanuts it would really stink.

Winner winner chicken dinner. Turang just won the platinium. Good job everyone

I put Misi one because the reliever risk doesn't worry me much because of the quality reliever he would be. On top of that we have seen lots of relievers go back to starting after maturing and getting there stuff tuned in. My Misi projection is likely something like this. He starts like 15 games in AAA and the walk rate is a tad better but still to high. HE gets called up to the bigs as a reliever and does fine. Next year he has a Hader like role in Hader's role from his 1st year. Then in 2027 goes back to the rotation ala Garrett Crochet with his walk rate now at 10% or lower.

Is Vinny Capra and Tyler Jay still on the 40 man? I feel like with all the other guys who we let go Capra and Jay would have been on the list before some of them. Both seem like a dime a dozen guys to pick up and maybe not even need a 40 man.

Here is my thinking Let's say Rhys has a modest improvement to a 1 WAR player hits like .240 with a few more HR. If he was able to DH and not have to play the field that could be around 2 WAR but he actually loses value since he will have to play a lot of 1st. If we trade him and eat say $8 million (and get just a lotto style prospect) and then sign a guy like Carlos Santana to say like 7.5 million, I think that it is pretty likely Santana gives you 2.5 WAR. That means We improve the team by 1.5 WAR and save $2.5. We could even go bigger and try for a 1B like Goldy or Walker who have the upside to be 3-5 WAR players or trade candidates like Yandy Diaz as well. We could even just give Black the 1B job save $10 and role the dice on his defense. I would guess Black could hit .250/.350/.400 if things went right with 15-20 bombs and 20+ SB if the defense is even close to average he would be over 2 WAR easy.