Brewcrew82

Okay. So much I have issue with here. Including your interpretation of my argument. But I’ll let you have the last word.

They literally did the exact same thing you're proposing the past two off-seasons where they signed all of the top free agents, and it did end up backfiring on them this year especially, Their 40 year old aces predictably got injured, they received declining production from Marte, Escobar, Canha, Escobar, etc. Look at the Padres, too. Yeah, they can spend to their heart's content, but that is not a guarantor of success. Plus, they've already said they're not planning to contend in 2024.... Anyways, all I was saying is that, right now, the Brewers and Guardians are arguably starting from a better position organizationally due to the elite talent acquisition and development systems they already have in place and have had in place for a while now (the Brewers top 3 farm system being one of the byproducts). Stearns is just starting building the Mets'. It will take time. Spending like the Mets have the capability to do can help hasten that process and chip away at/eliminate the gap, but Stearns is also unproven when it comes to making big-dollar free agent signings. He could be Chris Young or he could also be Preller. Is that enough to make CC think that he has to take Mets job in order to win a title? I don't know. But I don't think it's the no-brainer it's being portrayed as, and for that reason, among a couple others, I suspect he comes back. We'll have to agree to disagree regarding his comments about winning a title in MKE ringing hollow in the event he ditches us for the Mets. I feel very strongly that they would.

This is really long and hard to follow, but two things: 1) They already tried buying their way to a title like you're proposing, and it backfired on them. They're lucky they were able to get out of the Correa deal. They traded Scherzer and Verlander because they weren't planning on contending in 2024, and Cohen hired Stearns to build something more sustainable like the Dodgers. That will take time. 2) Brewers are a consensus top 5/3 farm system. Mets are on the outside fringes of the top 10, if that. That difference matters.

You wait a year to offer Chourio a deal it might be too late.... He's not comparable to either Hiura or Singleton as he's a 19 year old that has reached AAA. He just set the record for HRs in AA by a teenager. Compare him to Carroll, Acuna, Rodriguez, Tatis Jr. Because those are the players who have done what he's done at his age.

Looks like the Rangers are going to leave us, the Padres, the Rays, the Rockies, and the Mariners as the only teams without a World Series title.

Wait, so teams don't actually have unlimited money to spend like some people think?

Mets have a huge $ advantage over the Brewers for sure, but the Brewers are arguably starting in a better position organizationally with their young talent and top 3 farm system. I think if Attanasio matches his other offers, CC comes back. There's no guarantee he'd ever get another chance to manage in Milwaukee, and I wouldn't assume his reputation wouldn't suffer if he left for the Mets.

Add Ken Rosenthal as someone who thinks CC ends up back in Milwaukee...Of course, he says that's dependent on whether the Brewers offer him what he thinks is a fair price. So, who knows. d

Your obsession with me is one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever encountered. It’s pure childishness. All I literally did was share articles from two insiders who both say that Cleveland is a long shot and that CC most likely ends up back in Milwaukee. It’s not even my opinion (I personally think it’s more 50/50 he comes back) and nowhere did I say him signing a contract with the Brewers is imminent. And, yes, generally the goal of rebuilding is to build up your farm system to an elite level through a tear down of your major league roster and then tanking. However, per literally all of the major outlets, the Brewers already have an elite farm system, with each of their top 6 prospects at the upper levels of the minors. Thus, a rebuild=unnecessary.

Except he prefaces it by saying, "I was told by a top MLB source"... I'd imagine that's his usual format for his columns. FWIW, Heyman also said virtually the same thing the other day... https://nypost.com/2023/10/26/sports/mets-money-may-not-be-enough-to-lure-craig-counsell-from-brewers/

CC a "longshot" to Cleveland. Most likely ends up back in Milwaukee... https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2023/10/nobody-asked-me-but-can-guardians-land-a-long-shot-deshaun-watsons-arm-terry-pluto.html

Not enough from the Brewers' perspective. Way too much to the Padres.

Yeah. We'll see. They'll probably have to either give into that or add to their $100 million contribution.

Chourio is obviously going to be the top priority in this OF. I think you put him in CF from the moment he makes his debut. Frelick is probably then the safest bet with the bat. His best fit imo is in LF, which would obviously require a shift of Yelich to 1B or DH. RF is then up for grabs between Taylor, Mitchell, and Wiemer. Something like a Mitchell-Wiemer platoon would probably be the most ideal. But they also have more questions with the bat than a guy like Tyrone Taylor who was a huge part of why we ended up running away with the division in September. Eventually, I think you trade him, but for now I think he's gotta be the starter. Wiemer starts the season in AAA.

Because the Brewers want to keep ticket prices low. They have some of the lowest prices in baseball, which they argue allows more people to come to games.

Chourio finishes 3/4, 1 BB. Would've been 4/4 but got robbed of a hit in his second at-bat.

Wow. Great game. Hopefully it's like this for the rest of the series.

Wow. Corey Seager!

2/3 now.

Im pretty sure a team like the Dodgers would have little problem offering him a contract this offseason. Elite pitchers like him are really hard to come by, and they've done something similar in the past. As long as Woody and his agent are willing to be reasonable, I have little problem with a potential deal.

I'd rather trade Devin Williams to the Orioles for Ortiz and Heston Kjerstad.

You seriously want to talk to me about condescending? Tell me, what do the words "freakishly ridiculous to abandon that fact" convey? I forgot one word in an honest error that sometimes occurs when you're posting in a hurry or from a phone. I'm well aware of the fact that the Brewers have been in a World Series, considering it's in my freaking username. No spinning necessary. But go on....

If he and his agent are willing to be reasonable about it, I have no issues with a 2 for 1 deal, with maybe an option added. Julio Urias, for instance, had this surgery in 2017 and went right back to being an ace afterwards until this year. Granted, he was much younger, but Woody's not that old, either.

FWIW, BTV has Williams with more value than Burnes right now due to the extra year....