Hardy to Cincy?

[PrinceEatMeat]

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=933744

 

Doubt this has much credibility, but thought it was worth conversation. It does make sense for both sides.

[KRM17]

Doug had harang plus prospect for hardy but from what I have been told MA vetoed due to harangs contract

[Hate those Rodents]

Yeah, there was scuttlebut about a Hardy for Harang trade at the messge board on the Brewers.com site too. I'd do it, as I am higher on Harang and lower on Hardy than most here. But I highly doubt the two division rivals will shake hands on a deal like this.

[Team Canada]

Please include a summary of your link so everyone doesn't have to actually go there to read what the thread is about.

From some poster:

Today, after the Brewer game, I was standing by the players lot to get autographs after the game. Then, what appeared to be a journalist, maybe Tom haudricourt (I have no idea how any of them look), told the parking lot attendant that he got a call from a local radio station last night who told him that a very reliable source told them that J.J. Hardy could very well be traded to Cincinatti. I didn't catch the rest of what this guy was saying so I can only suspect who he really was and who Cincinatti would trade. I presume a guy like Homer Bailey could be involved. Anyway, this could be all rumors but I am positive this is what he said. You don't have to believe it, but if it does happen you'll remember where you saw it.

[Bench Coach]

So We had a chance to add a quality arm without giving up anything to important and Mark said no. (Yes I like Hardy, but we have a replacement waiting) This was someone we would have had for next year as well. I know this year is a long shot, but you aren't going to keep getting 3 million fans with a rotation of Gallardo and a bunch or 4 and 5 starters. At this point I am not very optimistic about our rotation being much improved by the start of next season either.

[PeaveyFury]

Doug had harang plus prospect for hardy but from what I have been told MA vetoed due to harangs contract

 

Source?

[Mr QL]

Yea this is a bit sketchy. I'll believe it when it happens.

[YoungGeezy]

Man, I'd be nice to get Bailey but doubt that'd happen. He was the guy I really wanted in that draft so to be able to have him and Rogers that'd be great. I doubt MA would shut that down. The only reason IMO he would is because he feels he'd lose a lot of the JJ Hottie fans. Let's face he draws in the girls and well Harang is a pretty ugly man. Ha

[wibadgers23]

Doug had harang plus prospect for hardy but from what I have been told MA vetoed due to harangs contract

Seriously? What is Harang's contract situation?

[jjfanec]

Doug had harang plus prospect for hardy but from what I have been told MA vetoed due to harangs contract

Seriously? What is Harang's contract situation?

Harang is owed 12.5 million next year with a club option for 2011 of 12.75 million, with a buyout of 2 million. He also is owed whatever is left of his 11 million this year.

[RockCoCougars]

No thank you. Harang is vastly overpaid. The guy is Jeff Juden with one good year. No need to sell low on Hardy for a bad contract guy who would likely not help anyway.

[Kelbysdaddy]

what about hardy and salome plus a b prospect for bailey, yonder alonso (we need a good 1b in the minors!!!) and micah owings

[endaround]

What is with the Bailey love? I just don't get it. Harang would be a decent add. The idea that salary concerns are at issue screams false rumour though.

[Never Outhustled]

Harang is owed 12.5 million next year with a club option for 2011 of 12.75 million, with a buyout of 2 million. He also is owed whatever is left of his 11 million this year.

True, but if he's traded the option becomes a mutual option for $14 million, with a $2.5 million buyout. I'm guessing if we were to pick up the option, but Harang declined, we wouldn't have to pay the buyout.

[RightFieldCoder]

Why would Harang decline a $14M option?

[Invader3K]

I'd be somewhat surprised if Melvin traded Hardy within the division.

[JohnBriggs12]

The same Aaron Harang who's 11-29 since the start of 08 and was 0-4 with a 6.00 ERA in July? How is that any better than what they have and they'd still owe him $15 million?

 

Good move blocking that one Mark.

 

Arroyo and a prospect makes some sense but not Harang.

[brewmann04]

why is everyone looking for Homer he really has done Nothing to prove he a major league Prospect at this point.

[davego]

I wanted Arroyo the last time (Lyle trade).

[dadofandrew]

Bailey is 23, throws hard, and has had success in AAA. He's also been rushed by Cincy, so he'll probably take a little longer. He might never be the ace he was projected to be, but he'll be in the bigs for a while.

[DHonks]

If Mark A vetoed this trade idea because of finances, he hasn't done his homework at all. Harang is a Good #3 pitcher in his bad seasons, a solid ace in his good seasons. And for under $15 million per year, he's a relative bargain. I'd do a Hardy for Harang swap without thinking twice.

[pogokat]

the bailey thing is really similar to phil hughes, who buy the way, has turned into johan santana since they moved him to the pen

[endaround]

Except he isn't. Hughes had excellent control in AAA. Bailey has only shown control to some extent this year.

[jjfanec]

I remember when Bailey, Hughes and Gallardo were coming up and Bailey and Hughes were the two scouts liked the most. When asked Gallardo was always the 3rd best of the 3 even though they were complimentary of him. I would love to get Bailey if possible because his upside is so good.

[Invader3K]

It would be worth buying low on Bailey if it doesn't take much to get him. I have no idea how enamored or not the Reds' front office is with him at this point.

 

I think Melvin should be doing anything he can to re-stock Nashville with some MLB-projectable pitching talent...it's not like we can afford to be too choosy at this point, seeing how guys like Burns and Dillard are in our Major League rotation right now.