Put them all on the market

[PeaveyFury]

Worse? Based on what?

 

Head to head stats.

 

No one is going to argue that Hardy isn't a very good defensive SS, but the fact that he's been worse than Gomez offensively can't be ignored.

[jwill535]

Not to mention that with him being hurt more then he not, he isnt exactly helping the team either.

[wishicouldhit]

I wouldn't sell until Melvin gets fired. I have 0 confidence of him building a contending team.

 

correct me if i am wrong but wasnt melvin the GM when they made the playoffs

[paul253]

correct me if i am wrong but wasnt melvin the GM when they made

the playoffs

 

The one season they made the playoffs under him? He's had two seasons of above .500 ball, one of which was only 4 games over. That's not very good. Not to mention after they made the playoffs the team has been on a steady decline even though most of his key players are in the prime of their careers.

[Baldkin]

And they didn't finish over .500 once in the... 10 years before he became GM?

And his first wave of prospects made the playoffs. There were five guys that Melvin didn't bring in on that 2008 team, I believe. Hart, Fielder, Hall, Sheets and Parra. The cupboard was BARE when he took over.

I guess I wonder what people expect. Yes, it's been a poor 12 months.... but they were doing great last year until 3 of their starting pitchers got hurt at the same time.

I'd much rather stick with Doug than have gotten "lucky enough" to have the other "hot GM" that the Royals got in Dayton Moore.

[wibadgers23]

Even though we've heard reports of Prince and Hart being available for trade, I just have this feeling that Melvin and Attanasio haven't given up on this season yet. These next few weeks are going to be interesting to say the least.

[wallus]

Here are my trade ideas/thoughts:

 

Trade Fielder and Counsell to the Sox for Hudson and Beckham

Trade Hart, Bush, and Gamel to the Giants for Bumgarner or Hart to TB for Davis+

Trade Lawrie and Parra to the Mariners for Pineda

Trade McGehee to Minnesota for some prospects (not sure of their system)

Extend Rickie Weeks

 

 

Sign Carl Crawford and Adam Dunn in the offseason.

 

Lineup would be:

 

Weeks 2b

Crawford RF

Braun LF

Dunn 1b

Beckham 3b

Lucroy C

Cain Cf

Escobar SS

Pitcher

 

Rotation

 

Yo

Bumgarner/Davis

Pineda

Wolf

Hudson

 

Yes I did not want to work on what I should have been and thought of this instead.

[bill hAll Star]

Nice. The only thing I'd do is talent-wise put Hudson at 4 and Wolf at 5. If we weren't paying Wolf, obviously he'd be out of the lineup.

 

Crawford and Dunn won't come cheap. But good bats are much cheaper than good arms.

[wallus]

Nice. The only thing I'd do is talent-wise put Hudson at 4 and Wolf at 5. If we weren't paying Wolf, obviously he'd be out of the lineup.

 

Crawford and Dunn won't come cheap. But good bats are much cheaper than good arms.

Well they won't come cheap but we would have a lot of money to spend too and you could always front load their contracts while all those players are cheap. (easier to trade later too)

[Crash2303]

meaning- guys we either won't have next year, or who are redundant- at this point:

Dave Bush

Jim Edmonds

David Riske

Trevor Hoffman

Doug Davis

Craig Counsell

Chris Capuano

Gregg Zaun

Marco Estrada

Jody Gerut

Chris Narveson

PROSPECTS

Angel Salome

Willy Peralta

[trwi7]

Why would we trade Peralta? He's exactly the type of guy we should be trying to acquire.

[Crash2303]

good call. any chance of packaging two or three of those together to a team to actually get a decent prospect?

[endaround]

Estrada is Brewers property next year though he's likely getting released.

[paul253]

Any chance at all we could acquire Pineda? I know prospect for prospect trades are rare, but if Jack Z. likes Lawrie as much as I hear, maybe Lawrie and a lower ceiling prospect for Pineda could work. They apparently need offense and we obviously need pitching. I hate to give up Lawrie, but if he brings back a top pitching prospect at this point you almost have to do it.