2011-07-06 Diamondbacks at Brewers - [Brewers win, 3-1, thanks to McGehee, Gallardo]

[razzzorsharp]

Axford! The DBacks announcers were laughing at how filthy Axford was.

[pretendastronaut]

Great game for the Crew. Lots of positives today.

[Bombers]

But when Ax is dealin, you don't need any fielders - Way to be Ax!!! Strikes out the side!

[PrinceEatMeat]

YES! WIN!!!

[endaround]

Axford apparently upset he allowed runs to score yesterday

[Invader3K]

Great win. Kind of weird that we don't win without McGehee's big pinch hit home run. Definitely feels good to get a victory before a four game series against the Reds.

[markedman5]

niceeeeeeee

 

Thats what you need when you're struggling. A dominant start and solid BP work to give you a chance and then 1 big hit gets it done.

 

Well done boys!

[fondybrewfan]

Everyone would have been on RR's case big time if McGehee wouldn't have come through.

 

It just goes to show that a manager can look brilliant if his players actually execute; but get crucified if they don't

[StearnsFTW]

Well, that takes me off the ledge.

 

It was like Bizarro-Brewers day: McGehee with a huge homer and Hawkins pitches the 8th.........

 

And I will say, I thought McGehee was a horrible choice.

[trwi7]

Woooooooooo!!!!!!! Tied with the Pirates!!!!!!!

[jason21nl]

Everyone would have been on RR's case big time if McGehee wouldn't have come through.

 

It just goes to show that a manager can look brilliant if his players actually execute; but get crucified if they don't

I think most people still think it was a bad move, but even sometimes when you make the wrong decision you get lucky.

[pretendastronaut]

Everyone would have been on RR's case big time if McGehee wouldn't have come through.

 

 

 

It just goes to show that a manager can look brilliant if his players actually execute; but get crucified if they don't

 

I think pretty much everyone in the thread knows it was a bad call that had a good result. Not the same as being brillant, but I'll take it.

 

I do give RR credit for finally using Hawkins as the set-up, and hopefully that's not his last opportunity there.

[rluzinski]

Everyone would have been on RR's case big time if McGehee wouldn't have come through.

 

It just goes to show that a manager can look brilliant if his players actually execute; but get crucified if they don't

Their objections with the move are noted in this thread and still stand, I'm sure.

[Baldkin]

Everyone would have been on RR's case big time if McGehee wouldn't have come through.

 

It just goes to show that a manager can look brilliant if his players actually execute; but get crucified if they don't

You can have a good result from a bad decision, just like you can have a bad result from a good decision. The problem is, I don't think RRR has any idea he made a bad decision.

[brewmann04]

maybe RR in the metting realized he had to use someone else in the 8th.

[davemakovec]

This is an Earl Weaver win - pitching (Yo, Hawk, and Ax), defense (great plays by Gamel, Counsell, Weeks, and Kotsay), and a three-run homer.

[MJLiverock]

For the complaints of using Casey as a PH there what should RR have done that was such an obvious better choice?

 

Let Gamel bat? It isn't like he has been tearing the cover off the ball. You could argue he should have batted but it isn't such a slam dunk that he was a better choice than Casey.

 

Use one of the great PH'ers on the Brewers bench? There are none.

[chickinbrickin]

Wow, Hawkins shuts them down in the 8th and strikes out the two lefties he faced. Would have been nice to see this about a month ago. Did someone else manage the bullpen today?

[Bombers]

For the complaints of using Casey as a PH there what should RR have done that was such an obvious better choice?

 

Let Gamel bat? It isn't like he has been tearing the cover off the ball. You could argue he should have batted but it isn't such a slam dunk that he was a better choice than Casey.

 

Use one of the great PH'ers on the Brewers bench? There are none.

Ya - Let Gamel bat. And it isn't always about who you "bring" in, it can also be about forcing the other manager to make a move. Sometimes your best option is to do nothing. In that case, with a pitcher struggling to find the zone and giving up back to back singles, yes, doing nothing - IMO - was the best move he could have made.

 

 

[MJLiverock]

That's fine but Gamel could have just as easily struck out on 3 pitches. When neither choice is ideal it doesn't mean you have to stay the course and that any change is automatically dumb. Sometimes the reactions make it seem like the choice is sending Craig Counsell's bat vs. Joey Votto's bat up there when in reality there isn't much difference in the choice and either can make sense. Casey has stunk for all but one month this year, Gamel has done nothing thus far at the major league level, this year or any year, choosing between the two isn't such a black and white, horrilbe vs. great choice.

[StearnsFTW]

That's fine but Gamel could have just as easily struck out on 3 pitches. When neither choice is ideal it doesn't mean you have to stay the course and that any change is automatically dumb. Sometimes the reactions make it seem like the choice is sending Craig Counsell's bat vs. Joey Votto's bat up there when in reality there isn't much difference in the choice and either can make sense. Casey has stunk for all but one month this year, Gamel has done nothing thus far at the major league level, this year or any year, choosing between the two isn't such a black and white, horrilbe vs. great choice.

He gave you the correct explanation.

 

You make him leave the lefty who's struggling in the game. That was the right move. The batter didn't matter too much to me, although Gamel was the better option. The point was to make a struggling pitcher stay in the game. It's not a horrible vs. great choice, I agree, but to leave Gamel in was the logical choice IMO.

[The Truth]

Gallardo with his ERA now at 3.76 very close to his career average of 3.72

[TheCrew07]

Well apparently Gamel threatening McGehee's playing time is the cure for everything that ails him... worked in 2009 and worked today!

[davemakovec]

Roenicke knew that Gibson was going to bring in a righty to face McGehee:

 

http://www.jsonline.com/s...s/brewers/125121348.html

[rluzinski]

I don't think Gamel against a lefty is the obvious choice over McGehee against a righty. It depends a lot on how good you think Gamel is as a hitter (lot's of uncertainty there) and how much you weight McGehee's terrible 2011 compared to his two previous years. I'd lean towards Gamel but I don't know.