Game Thread (8/13/2022): Brewers (Burnes) at Cardinals (Wainwright) - 6:15 PM CDT

[HarryDoyle]

Stole that one.

[treego14]

8 minutes ago, treego14 said:

Bush is not a closer.

Bush is a closer ... just like I said!  

He put the Cards to bed!

[YelichPosse]

Wow a hook like that with 99 plays alright lol.

Vinny Rottino is very pleasant as well. I’m impressed 

[yourout]

8 minutes ago, treego14 said:

Bush is not a closer.

He was today. Certainly has closer stuff.

 

[LouisEly]

I thought this game was over an hour ago...

[BruisedCrew]

Big one to pull out with a minimum of offense. 
 

Take the sweep off the table. 

[willie key]

It’s official.     Tomorrow is biggest game of the season

 

ashby needs to show up

[Sixtolezcano]

12 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

This says otherwise. Since 2019....

And this was you opinion before the trade?  You are definitely in the minority of baseball fans. We really fleeced that Pads  on that trade, huh. Never really addressed the all-star games and relief pitcher of the year awards.

[tonyei31]

I had the Cards broadcast tonight and the announcers are as expected, the PC Police of baseball.  Such Fing pricks.  Great win.  Tough, hard fought game all around. Great work from the pen.  Great performance by Burnes.  Hitting is as expected, a ghost town most nights but showed up when needed.  Let's get tomorrow.  

[jason21nl]

Big big win!   

[DuWayne Steurer]

Big win tonight.

Luckily, the umps didn't call it in the 7th with the 1 run slaughter rule, giving the offense time to get us back into it.

Bush looks alright after that first-game hiccup. 

[edfunderburk]

I like Bush & Rogers more than Hader

If Rosenthal adds anything down the stretch this could be a good bullpen 

The Brewers have frustrated me all year … I have been clear with my disappointment … that said - nice comeback win tonight 

[BruisedCrew]

36 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

And yet his ERA on the season is better than Hader's and his numbers over the last few years are quite comparable...

It didn’t take you long to jump off the Hader bandwagon. 

[Soupbone]

Lose Dillard. Keep Rottino. 

[SeaBass]

12 minutes ago, tonyei31 said:

I had the Cards broadcast tonight and the announcers are as expected, the PC Police of baseball.  Such Fing pricks.  Great win.  Tough, hard fought game all around. Great work from the pen.  Great performance by Burnes.  Hitting is as expected, a ghost town most nights but showed up when needed.  Let's get tomorrow.  

Any good examples?

Edit: For clarity I assumed you meant some silly baseball etiquette garbage, not the actual P of the PC variety..

[DuWayne Steurer]

I'm just gonna say this about the Rogers/Hader thing.  Rogers is a nice reliever.  He's not having a great year this year, but he very well might pitch alright down the stretch.  he might out-pitch Hader down the stretch.

However, Hader has shown multiple times in his career he's one of the few relievers in MLB that can go multiple months at a time and not allow a run, let alone barely allow a hit. Yes, he's prone to rough stretches once in a while, like he's in now, and that's why his numbers look like they do, but Rogers doesn't have the raw stuff and talent that Hader does.  They have similar-ish stat lines..... but I'm not sure that's entirely telling of what you have. 

IN the end.... it is what it is.  We have Rogers now.... Hader is the Padres problem (at the moment) and if he figures things out, and goes on a 2 month stretch where he doesn't allow a run, they'll be happy they pulled the trigger. 

[rickh150]

Winning tomorrow would be big. Up half game with four Dodger games (really 7 in the next two weeks) seems much different than down game and a half.

[Brewcrew82]

11 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

And this was you opinion before the trade?  You are definitely in the minority of baseball fans. We really fleeced that Pads  on that trade, huh. Never really addressed the all-star games and relief pitcher of the year awards.

I knew that Rogers was really good and had been quite unlucky this year. It's way too early to make any pronouncements on the Hader trade anyways. Rogers was an all-star last year, but that's besides the point, because the stats I just showed you say that they've been pretty much the same quality since 2019. I would definitely acknowledge that I'd take Hader hands down until recently, but my post was strictly about the 2022 versions of Hader and Rogers. 

[edfunderburk]

Next two week’s task list …

Win tomorrow 

Take 4 of 7 against the LAD

Beat the dadburn Cubbies & Pirates

[yourout]

3 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

Next two week’s task list …

Win tomorrow 

Take 4 of 7 against the LAD

Beat the dadburn Cubbies & Pirates

Watch them play decent tomorrow and against the dodgers only to completely crap the bed against the cubbies and pirates.

[Jim French Stepstool]

You can see tonite what they were thinking regarding the "new" bullpen. Williams is Williams. Rogers isn't Hader if they're both on top of their games, but still pretty darn good. Bush, after what I've seen his last two times out, lengthens things considerably. Boxberger takes too much heat on here, but if Bush locates the breaking stuff like he has recently to go with upper 90s, he's better, and certainly a good late-inning option. And you still have Box & eventually Gott. CC has the pen depth he loves.

This'll be the way we win games, boys & girls. Just hope to see consistency.

[Brewcrew82]

19 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

It didn’t take you long to jump off the Hader bandwagon. 

I remember Brock telling us to quit it with these sorts of personal posts...Regardless, Hader had been the best relief pitcher in baseball until July, which is why I was on the "wagon". Lately, not so much...Rogers' ERA is now better than Hader's, which, combined with their relatively comparable stats over the last few years, elicited my post.  I would definitely have taken Hader until recently, though. 

[Brewcrew82]

Gained ground on both the Phillies and the Nationals, too. Hopefully they can jump on Mikolas tomorrow, as he's been struggling lately. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

46 minutes ago, nate82 said:

It looked like he touched the ball a second time in fair territory on his swing.  So he should have been out regardless.

Nah, he would never do that. Not The Cardinal Way.

[Jim French Stepstool]

14 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I knew that Rogers was really good and had been quite unlucky this year. It's way too early to make any pronouncements on the Hader trade anyways. Rogers was an all-star last year, but that's besides the point, because the stats I just showed you say that they've been pretty much the same quality since 2019. I would definitely acknowledge that I'd take Hader hands down until recently, but my post was strictly about the 2022 versions of Hader and Rogers. 

Due to the two prospects, fully critiquing this deal can't happen yet for quite awhile.