Too Early 2023 Ideas (or beyond)

[monty57]

15 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

I brought up the Mets as an option for Woody I would think Burnes to the Mets would work as well. They have 4 starters who are free agents I believe and Nimmo. They do have Alvarez, Baty, and Vientos as quality "ready" bats but really no high end arms we would want back.

Alvarez, Baty, and 2 of Matt Allen, Blade Tidwell, Calvin Ziegler, Mike Vasil, Dominic Hamel, Jose Butto, or Joel Diaz would be a nice haul.

Per MLB.com, Alvarez (Catcher) is the top prospect in baseball, with Baty (3B/OF) #18. 

Nate82's Orioles trade included Rodriguez (SP) who is #4 overall, and Holliday (SS) #13.

I love the thought of getting this back, but we need to be sure to temper our expectations. If we are able to net a Top 5 overall prospect, but the other guys are a little further down the list, it'd still be a good haul.

That said, I'd love either of these deals. The Orioles trade would give us a guy who could step right into the rotation and potentially be an ace in a couple years to go along with an 18-year-old who is ranked three spots behind Chourio, so it'd be cool to see those guys coming up. 

The Mets trade would immediately shore up our third base and catcher spots for the next six years. It would potentially have us starting five rookies on opening day next year, but they'd be a talented group of rookies. Maybe it's a pipe dream, but maybe that would allow for the Brewers to extend Woodruff out a couple of years.

Here's a question for you. If it would take adding someone like Ruiz to the trade, would you do it in order to get one of the packages listed above? 

[LincolnDD]

1 hour ago, jay87shot said:

I brought up the Mets as an option for Woody I would think Burnes to the Mets would work as well. They have 4 starters who are free agents I believe and Nimmo. They do have Alvarez, Baty, and Vientos as quality "ready" bats but really no high end arms we would want back.

Alvarez, Baty, and 2 of Matt Allen, Blade Tidwell, Calvin Ziegler, Mike Vasil, Dominic Hamel, Jose Butto, or Joel Diaz would be a nice haul.

The Mets have recently developed a "prospect huggers" reputation.  Their preference seems to be spend/outbid rather than trade assets.

The Rangers feel like the best fit to me, given what they did last winter.  Not much of an early read on what Chris Young will be like as a team-builder yet, but they really need to backup what they did last off-season.  

[jay87shot]

3 hours ago, monty57 said:

Per MLB.com, Alvarez (Catcher) is the top prospect in baseball, with Baty (3B/OF) #18. 

Nate82's Orioles trade included Rodriguez (SP) who is #4 overall, and Holliday (SS) #13.

I love the thought of getting this back, but we need to be sure to temper our expectations. If we are able to net a Top 5 overall prospect, but the other guys are a little further down the list, it'd still be a good haul.

That said, I'd love either of these deals. The Orioles trade would give us a guy who could step right into the rotation and potentially be an ace in a couple years to go along with an 18-year-old who is ranked three spots behind Chourio, so it'd be cool to see those guys coming up. 

The Mets trade would immediately shore up our third base and catcher spots for the next six years. It would potentially have us starting five rookies on opening day next year, but they'd be a talented group of rookies. Maybe it's a pipe dream, but maybe that would allow for the Brewers to extend Woodruff out a couple of years.

Here's a question for you. If it would take adding someone like Ruiz to the trade, would you do it in order to get one of the packages listed above? 

Luis Castillo got a top 20, top 80, organizational #6, and a lower ranked but quality reliever prospect. Both Woody and Burnes would have an extra 1/2 year and have been more consistent than Castillo the past 3/4 years. So in theory they should be able to extract a ton, especially for Burnes.

I would add in a prospect or player to get the higher end 2nd prospect. I would try and give up someone out of the top 10 or an excess reliever to make it work.

[UpandIn]

11 hours ago, monty57 said:

Per MLB.com, Alvarez (Catcher) is the top prospect in baseball, with Baty (3B/OF) #18. 

Nate82's Orioles trade included Rodriguez (SP) who is #4 overall, and Holliday (SS) #13.

I love the thought of getting this back, but we need to be sure to temper our expectations. If we are able to net a Top 5 overall prospect, but the other guys are a little further down the list, it'd still be a good haul.

That said, I'd love either of these deals. The Orioles trade would give us a guy who could step right into the rotation and potentially be an ace in a couple years to go along with an 18-year-old who is ranked three spots behind Chourio, so it'd be cool to see those guys coming up. 

The Mets trade would immediately shore up our third base and catcher spots for the next six years. It would potentially have us starting five rookies on opening day next year, but they'd be a talented group of rookies. Maybe it's a pipe dream, but maybe that would allow for the Brewers to extend Woodruff out a couple of years.

Here's a question for you. If it would take adding someone like Ruiz to the trade, would you do it in order to get one of the packages listed above? 

I'd gladly give up Ruiz if it meant Grayson Rodriguez and Jackson Holliday. I'd prefer that to the Mets deal as it includes the pitching prospect, but both are nice packages. I'm also assuming in any of these deals, it's assumed we'd also be getting a couple lower rated prospects.

And sure, both are probably expecting too much in the way of top tier prospects, but we have that luxury at the moment. We don't have to trade either and we can sit back and wait to see how prospects develop next year or see how we're playing.

But one truly elite prospect, one top 50 or higher prospect and then depending on how high that 2nd prospect is, how close they are, that should dictate what else we expect from the other two. But I'd like to get a top pitching prospect, corner IFer and then a couple talented young arms. 

[UpandIn]

8 hours ago, jay87shot said:

Luis Castillo got a top 20, top 80, organizational #6, and a lower ranked but quality reliever prospect. Both Woody and Burnes would have an extra 1/2 year and have been more consistent than Castillo the past 3/4 years. So in theory they should be able to extract a ton, especially for Burnes.

I would add in a prospect or player to get the higher end 2nd prospect. I would try and give up someone out of the top 10 or an excess reliever to make it work.

Fair enough, but each situation is different. Those prospects were all in rookie or A ball. In this scenario, we're talking about players several players who've already played at the big league level or who are on the precipice. 

Also, Seattle was pretty desperate to go for it. 

Not to say other teams won't be desperate next year, but Baltimore has been pretty patient. And they're genuinely cheap. That market and the Brewers have vastly outspent her the last 10+ years...

[wibadgers23]

11 hours ago, UpandIn said:

Fair enough, but each situation is different. Those prospects were all in rookie or A ball. In this scenario, we're talking about players several players who've already played at the big league level or who are on the precipice. 

Also, Seattle was pretty desperate to go for it. 

Not to say other teams won't be desperate next year, but Baltimore has been pretty patient. And they're genuinely cheap. That market and the Brewers have vastly outspent her the last 10+ years...

I think the Rangers could be one of those teams this offseason who will be desperate to go for it and they have a pretty good system. Seems like a good match between the two teams. That being said, I would love to get my hands on some of Baltimore’s top prospects. Or the Dodgers.

[Matt Breen]

Regarding the OF, I'm guessing that in 2023 we'll go with Mitchell in CF, Frelick in LF, and Renfroe in RF. Taylor will be a nice back up.

Frelick seems totally ready. Mitchell has some swing and miss issues that concern me, but I'm good with giving him a shot. Both Frelick and Mitchell would provide outstanding defense at their positions.

I'm keeping Renfroe another year, but Wiemer is not far away. Renfroe is a 30 HR bat. He's solid, but nothing more. Depending how the season goes, Wiemer could replace Renfroe along the way.

I'm not sure about Ruiz. His 2022 has been impressive, but are those improvements for real. I guess see how things shake out. And he'll be good insurance in case of an injury. 

The overall defense would be very good, and Taylor offers good fourth OF who can play all the positions. Removing Yelich from the field is a big plus.

Yelich, by the way, gets ticketed for DH and/or 1B. He can certainly play some OF if necessary - but I think our depth would be fine there. I'm not sure playing 1B would work with Yelich. I believe he played the position in high school, and he's still athletic. He's pretty tall - so he'd be a nice big target. And he'd push Rusty to DH - who is not a good fielder. But I don't know if it would be wise. But I'd look at it. Ultimately, I'd probably slot Yelich and Rusty at 1B/DH - whatever works.

PS - I'm not sold on Rowdy. I love the HRs, but a .220 BA is just not good. If we could improve, I'd be all for it. Just not sure how. Perhaps the lack of a shift would help him improve a bit. 

In then, Frelick in LF, Mitchell in CF, and - maybe - Yelich at 1B - would improve our defense at three positions. 

[UpandIn]

2 hours ago, wibadgers23 said:

I think the Rangers could be one of those teams this offseason who will be desperate to go for it and they have a pretty good system. Seems like a good match between the two teams. That being said, I would love to get my hands on some of Baltimore’s top prospects. Or the Dodgers.

Dodgers have and will continue to be my guess, but if I could hand pick the package, I'd definitely go all in on the Baltimore trade. I'd even go with a bigger package and would include Ruiz and Williams(they gotta add that Felix Bautista who has a uneven history, but has had a good rookie year).

 

 

[Robocaller]

1 hour ago, reillymcshane said:

Regarding the OF, I'm guessing that in 2023 we'll go with Mitchell in CF, Frelick in LF, and Renfroe in RF. Taylor will be a nice back up.

Frelick seems totally ready. Mitchell has some swing and miss issues that concern me, but I'm good with giving him a shot. Both Frelick and Mitchell would provide outstanding defense at their positions.

I'm keeping Renfroe another year, but Wiemer is not far away. Renfroe is a 30 HR bat. He's solid, but nothing more. Depending how the season goes, Wiemer could replace Renfroe along the way.

I'm not sure about Ruiz. His 2022 has been impressive, but are those improvements for real. I guess see how things shake out. And he'll be good insurance in case of an injury. 

The overall defense would be very good, and Taylor offers good fourth OF who can play all the positions. Removing Yelich from the field is a big plus.

Yelich, by the way, gets ticketed for DH and/or 1B. He can certainly play some OF if necessary - but I think our depth would be fine there. I'm not sure playing 1B would work with Yelich. I believe he played the position in high school, and he's still athletic. He's pretty tall - so he'd be a nice big target. And he'd push Rusty to DH - who is not a good fielder. But I don't know if it would be wise. But I'd look at it. Ultimately, I'd probably slot Yelich and Rusty at 1B/DH - whatever works.

PS - I'm not sold on Rowdy. I love the HRs, but a .220 BA is just not good. If we could improve, I'd be all for it. Just not sure how. Perhaps the lack of a shift would help him improve a bit. 

In then, Frelick in LF, Mitchell in CF, and - maybe - Yelich at 1B - would improve our defense at three positions. 

I agree with most of this, but Yelich is going to play a lot in the OF. I see no reason to transition him to 1B unless you expect his hitting to bounce back significantly, because his bat is pretty bad at 1B. Taylor could be traded. 

[jay87shot]

1 hour ago, reillymcshane said:

Regarding the OF, I'm guessing that in 2023 we'll go with Mitchell in CF, Frelick in LF, and Renfroe in RF. Taylor will be a nice back up.

Frelick seems totally ready. Mitchell has some swing and miss issues that concern me, but I'm good with giving him a shot. Both Frelick and Mitchell would provide outstanding defense at their positions.

I'm keeping Renfroe another year, but Wiemer is not far away. Renfroe is a 30 HR bat. He's solid, but nothing more. Depending how the season goes, Wiemer could replace Renfroe along the way.

I'm not sure about Ruiz. His 2022 has been impressive, but are those improvements for real. I guess see how things shake out. And he'll be good insurance in case of an injury. 

The overall defense would be very good, and Taylor offers good fourth OF who can play all the positions. Removing Yelich from the field is a big plus.

Yelich, by the way, gets ticketed for DH and/or 1B. He can certainly play some OF if necessary - but I think our depth would be fine there. I'm not sure playing 1B would work with Yelich. I believe he played the position in high school, and he's still athletic. He's pretty tall - so he'd be a nice big target. And he'd push Rusty to DH - who is not a good fielder. But I don't know if it would be wise. But I'd look at it. Ultimately, I'd probably slot Yelich and Rusty at 1B/DH - whatever works.

PS - I'm not sold on Rowdy. I love the HRs, but a .220 BA is just not good. If we could improve, I'd be all for it. Just not sure how. Perhaps the lack of a shift would help him improve a bit. 

In then, Frelick in LF, Mitchell in CF, and - maybe - Yelich at 1B - would improve our defense at three positions. 

I like this, maybe Ruiz could be the 4th OF.  I posted somewhere maybe he could even play enough 2B to platoon with Turang occasionally (I have no idea of his defense but he was an infielder for 3 seasons or more.

I don't mind Rowdy as a DH but I just hate his defense. With Yeli needing more DH time and Huira I am OK with moving Rowdy if we can find a more consistent 1B bat and D.

I don't have a ton of confidence in Yeli at 1st. He is athletic enough but I don't think he has ever played infield so that might be a huge learning curve. The team should give it a chance however.

The Mariners signed Luis Castillo to a 5 year 108 deal with a 6th option. I feel like this would be a great comp. for Woody. If we shed a few vets, I would totally look to extend Woody and maybe trade Burnes if we could get a huge package.

[nate82]

1 hour ago, reillymcshane said:

Regarding the OF, I'm guessing that in 2023 we'll go with Mitchell in CF, Frelick in LF, and Renfroe in RF. Taylor will be a nice back up.

If you move Mitchell to RF Frelick in CF and Renfroe in LF that would be a better defensive OF.

 

I don’t see the Dodgers being a serious contender for Burnes.  It would be good if they would be but I don’t think they will.  They have other holes that they need to fix after this season.  If Adames becomes available that is someone I think the Dodgers would be interested in.  Instead of paying Turner they could trade for Adames instead or go with Lux.  I am not sure if the Dodgers are 100% in on Lux being their everyday SS.  

[UpandIn]

6 hours ago, nate82 said:

If you move Mitchell to RF Frelick in CF and Renfroe in LF that would be a better defensive OF.

 

I don’t see the Dodgers being a serious contender for Burnes.  It would be good if they would be but I don’t think they will.  They have other holes that they need to fix after this season.  If Adames becomes available that is someone I think the Dodgers would be interested in.  Instead of paying Turner they could trade for Adames instead or go with Lux.  I am not sure if the Dodgers are 100% in on Lux being their everyday SS.  

4 of the 6 guys who've made the most starts for the Dodgers are either FAs or out next year. 
Tyler Anderson 15-2 2.52 ERA
Not sure they'll completely buy into those numbers given his entire history.
Kershaw, Healey also FAs, and Buehler is out for the year.

They'll return Urias...good starter and a guy who's been in the BP for the most part his first four years. The guy is also 16-1, but is at 130IP this year and hasn't passed 55 prior to this year(and throws a splitter about ~30% of the time).

Healey they should bring back...I'd assume, but he did have an ERA of of almost 6 in 2021.

I'd be pretty surprised if they didn't go out and try and acquire at least one ace. 

There've been rumors Kershaw would finish his career with the Rangers for years.

They could also go out and buy 3 or 4 of the top FAs as their payroll dips to a meager ~150 next year and I don't see a lot of landing spots for Turner if not back with the Dodgers. 

 

I don't know if they'll spend the prospect capital on SPing...particularly given how much is available on the FA market, but I would expect them to try and pick up at least one ace and maybe a 2nd...because why not when you're the Dodgers and you screwed the rest of the league on your TV deal.

[Matt Breen]

7 hours ago, nate82 said:

If you move Mitchell to RF Frelick in CF and Renfroe in LF that would be a better defensive OF.

If that works, that's fine. I put Frelick in LF due to his average arm. Perhaps the coverage he'd provide in RF would be more advantageous. But again, whatever the team needs. 

[Robocaller]

10 hours ago, jay87shot said:

I like this, maybe Ruiz could be the 4th OF.  I posted somewhere maybe he could even play enough 2B to platoon with Turang occasionally (I have no idea of his defense but he was an infielder for 3 seasons or more.

I don't mind Rowdy as a DH but I just hate his defense. With Yeli needing more DH time and Huira I am OK with moving Rowdy if we can find a more consistent 1B bat and D.

I don't have a ton of confidence in Yeli at 1st. He is athletic enough but I don't think he has ever played infield so that might be a huge learning curve. The team should give it a chance however.

The Mariners signed Luis Castillo to a 5 year 108 deal with a 6th option. I feel like this would be a great comp. for Woody. If we shed a few vets, I would totally look to extend Woody and maybe trade Burnes if we could get a huge package.

people need to stop suggesting Ruiz play 2B outside of an emergency. He was very bad there.

[nate82]

26 minutes ago, Robocaller said:

people need to stop suggesting Ruiz play 2B outside of an emergency. He was very bad there.

Ruiz is basically Uggla/Weeks bad at 2B.  He should never play there unless there are no 2B and then I would rather Tellez play 2B than Ruiz.  

[Matt Breen]

I wouldn't count on Ruiz at 2B, but he may have a role versus left handers. The last two years he has pounded left handed pitching. 

2022: BA .379 vs L, .293 vs R | OPS .1.154 vs L, .850 vs R
2021: BA .324 vs L, .228 vs R | OPS .999 vs L, .664 vs R

The big thing with Ruiz is that his 2022 numbers are amazing, but are they the outlier? 2018-21 showed Ruiz as a mediocre bat - a .250ish BA and a bit of power. But this year he's pretty much improved all across the board. Better average, more power, more walks. He's had a great year. His splits, however, remain pretty wide. Now, if he hits righties at an .850 clip - like he has this year - we'll be thrilled. But if he reverts to his earlier form (sub. 700 OPS), well that may be an issue. But even if he struggles against right handers, he could carve himself a niche as a platoon/defensive replacement player. 

As I said, the big question is how much of Ruiz's improvement is real. His speed makes him a fascinating player.

[jay87shot]

What thoughts on the bullpen next year? We have lots of depth but could use a better 8th inning option, Bush and Box are passable guys (assuming we pick up Box's option). 

Williams, Bush, Box, Cousins, Strezlecki, Gott, Milner, Suter (non-tender?), Topa, Perdomo, Gustave, Sanchez and maybe options like Hobie Harris, Lucas Erceg, or Cam Robinson could all be 40 man options. It would be nice to add in a high leverage lefty. Matt Moore, Aroldis Chapman, Zack Britton, Will Smith, and Taylor Rogers are probably the best free agent options. I would think Moore will get a multi year deal and Chapman will get a more expensive 1 year deal, leaving Britton, Smith, and Rogers as the most logical options. I guess I would lean towards Britton if he recovers from the injury this year. I don't think I would go much over 1/6 with some incentives for any of those guys.

[UpandIn]

On 9/26/2022 at 9:04 AM, jay87shot said:

What thoughts on the bullpen next year? We have lots of depth but could use a better 8th inning option, Bush and Box are passable guys (assuming we pick up Box's option). 

Williams, Bush, Box, Cousins, Strezlecki, Gott, Milner, Suter (non-tender?), Topa, Perdomo, Gustave, Sanchez and maybe options like Hobie Harris, Lucas Erceg, or Cam Robinson could all be 40 man options. It would be nice to add in a high leverage lefty. Matt Moore, Aroldis Chapman, Zack Britton, Will Smith, and Taylor Rogers are probably the best free agent options. I would think Moore will get a multi year deal and Chapman will get a more expensive 1 year deal, leaving Britton, Smith, and Rogers as the most logical options. I guess I would lean towards Britton if he recovers from the injury this year. I don't think I would go much over 1/6 with some incentives for any of those guys.

I'm a little uneasy about not just the SU man but the Closer to be honest. 

The later I will get pushback from as it's totally irrational looking at his numbers. I just feel like we're treading toward K-Rod territory rather than overwhelmingly dominant closer who throws 98MPH and then comes back with that whiffle ball change. So there is literally no tangible reason to doubt Devin Williams ability to dominant moving forward...but it's still in my head.

As for our SU man...yeah, I don't know. Maybe we'll get a bit year from Bush next year. He'll throw that big curve more often and throw that upper 90's FB with very little movement a little less. I could see that being successful for him. Throwing it UP in the zone seems like it'd certainly help as right now he throws straight and 98 right down the middle and in the lower half of the zone a bit too often(hence the HRs). 

But Britton is a guy I'd absolutely take a chance on. I also assume any number we'd be willing to go to, the Yankees or Dodgers or whomever would be willing to go there and higher. Chapman, again, all on board, but there I'm thinking you're still gonna be paying 10+.

Matt Moore though...that is an interesting option. I was just looking at him. I wasn't even sure he was THAT Matt Moore. Don't think he'll break the bank. Also don't think he'll be that overpowering SU man, but a guy who can still give you multiple innings, has swing and miss stuff. Though his numbers are buoyed by why is almost certainly an unsustainable HR/FB ratio, I'd take a flier there. Also, it'd be cool to get the guy who was rated ahead of Trout and Harper as a prospect(and that's really the goal in the end, right!)

In the end, if DS is still running the show, my guess is we pick up a couple relievers with big arms and hope one of them can develop. We seem to develop relievers pretty well...though it feels like we lost more games this year due to our pen than in a long time, it's really not like you can point to any one guy. Each guy seems to blow it on a different day(other than Williams...who I have an irrational fear or imploding next year). 

 

Finally, what the hell did Jeremy Jeffress do? Guy puts up ERA's of 1.54 and 1.29 in 2 of his last 3 seasons, wants to keep pitching and nobody will sign him? Not to suggest he'd be a good SU man, just curious situation there. 

[Robocaller]

On 9/26/2022 at 9:04 AM, jay87shot said:

What thoughts on the bullpen next year? We have lots of depth but could use a better 8th inning option, Bush and Box are passable guys (assuming we pick up Box's option). 

I fully expect they will sign (ML contract or spring training invite) 2-4 RP who are currently on the scrap heap and see which one works.

 

[UpandIn]

6 hours ago, Robocaller said:

I fully expect they will sign (ML contract or spring training invite) 2-4 RP who are currently on the scrap heap and see which one works.

 

They'll almost definitely do that.

And IF they bring their rotation back next year, they'll have Gasser or Ashby to help in the pen.

Also, not impossible Uribe, Ecerg, Harris, or a number of others could step in and maybe surprise. Obviously not all of them, but by the end of next year, one could. 

EDIT-OR they'll trade a pitcher or two or both and Adames and in which case, they probably won't be as competitive next year and will also have some young, talented arms who can fill a myriad of roles(I don't want to infer in any way they won't trade anyone and or everyone and get into another circular argument). 

[jay87shot]

No clue on Jeffress, I think he lost some velo and his advanced stats were really poor.

Hopefully the Crew can get there pitching team with Bush to find a small tweek to get some movement the heater. Otherwise I agree with no more low fastballs and through his secondary pitches more.

I think Moore might have a chance at 3 years, I would go there however there probably are some starters who could transition to the bullpen like he did. Matt Boyd, Chris Archer, and Michael Lorenzen could be cheap former starter who could thrive in the bullpen (among others).

[monty57]

22 hours ago, UpandIn said:

We seem to develop relievers pretty well...though it feels like we lost more games this year due to our pen than in a long time, it's really not like you can point to any one guy. Each guy seems to blow it on a different day(other than Williams...who I have an irrational fear or imploding next year). 

We had a lot of injuries to our starters this year, leading to a lot more games that the bullpen had to pitch a lot of innings. The more relievers you have to depend on in a game, the more likely that one of them is going to have an off day.

Whether that's due to a starter leaving early due to injury, having to throw a "bullpen game" due to lack of healthy starters, starting a "AAAA guy" who only goes a few innings, or just pulling a starter early because they don't want to see him go through the order one more time, we seem to have had a lot of games that required a lot of bullpen arms.

[beekay414]

Say the Dodgers lose Turner and then don't sign any of Correa, Bogaerts or Swanson and they are in the market for a SS and they want Adames. Would you rather take a better package for Adames alone (say two top 15 LAD prospects) or a lesser package but we get to attach Yelich's deal (where one top 15 LAD prospect is the headliner and the rest of the package is lottery tickets)?

[nate82]

4 minutes ago, beekay414 said:

Say the Dodgers lose Turner and then don't sign any of Correa, Bogaerts or Swanson and they are in the market for a SS and they want Adames. Would you rather take a better package for Adames alone (say two top 15 LAD prospects) or a lesser package but we get to attach Yelich's deal (where one top 15 LAD prospect is the headliner and the rest of the package is lottery tickets)?

You won’t get a top 15 if you add Yelich to the deal.  You may have to add money to the deal to get the deal near even.

Would have to look at the numbers again but Yelich has been a -100m+ valued player.  Adames has been about $30-40m valued player.  So Adames excess value won’t even cover Yelich’s negative value.  You would have to include Burnes to get a 5-10 ranked player from the Dodgers or pay a significant portion of Yelich’s contract.  

[beekay414]

12 minutes ago, nate82 said:

You won’t get a top 15 if you add Yelich to the deal.  You may have to add money to the deal to get the deal near even.

Would have to look at the numbers again but Yelich has been a -100m+ valued player.  Adames has been about $30-40m valued player.  So Adames excess value won’t even cover Yelich’s negative value.  You would have to include Burnes to get a 5-10 ranked player from the Dodgers or pay a significant portion of Yelich’s contract.  

Regardless. The point remains. Would you rather cash in on Adames alone or attach Yelich to him? Or would you wait to attach Yelich to Burnes/Woody when we inevitably move off them? Or just eat it and deal with him for the next 7 years?

The organizational rank is irrelevant for the exercise of the question. Ignore that, if need be. I didn't feel like jumping on BTV for obvious reasons. Simply consider it Adames and Yelich for fliers.