Dodgers Want Our Players?

[Robocaller]

read a dodgers blog saying that they would still be interested in ADAMES, and with YELICH producing closer to his salary, that he would also be a target.  And, of course, they mentioned that they might as well try to get BURNES included too.

Did mention that the Brewers lingering near the top of the division would be be an impediment.

 

[nate82]

Adames makes sense for the Dodgers.  There is a thought there maybe more playoff competitors trading with each other than with your typical sellers.  

[umphrey]

I wouldn’t mind selling Yelich and Adames to the Dodgers. Adames is having a down year, assumed we would hold him through the year, buy/sell/hold. 

[wallus]

If you are trading Yelich and Adames, you might as well trade Burnes, Woodruff and Miley too. I can't see the team doing that unless there are overpays.

[Brewcrew82]

They’re not trading Adames or Burnes unless they go into a major tailspin the next few weeks. 

Yelich is not getting traded, period.

[Fear The Chorizo]

I think trading Adames may be something the Brewers look into this coming offseason, particularly if he has a decent 2nd half...he has been hitting a bit better lately.  Can't see them trading their starting SS this season when they're in this division unless the wheels fall off after the AS break and they find themselves 5+ games back at the end of July.

[wibadgers23]

52 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

They’re not trading Adames or Burnes unless they go into a major tailspin the next few weeks. 

Yelich is not getting traded, period.

Agreed, not happening. And I don’t think they’ll be big buyers either which is why this deadline will be a bit of a dud for the Brewers. Minor moves at best. Big moves in the offseason.

[wildcat2237]

3 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

They’re not trading Adames or Burnes unless they go into a major tailspin the next few weeks. 

Yelich is not getting traded, period.

If the Ddogers would really take him and his salary I would be THRILLED if the Brewers could get out from under that contract. 

That said, yeah, Yelich is probably untradeable unless the Brewers throw in money or take back another albatross deal. 

[Brewcrew82]

9 minutes ago, wildcat2237 said:

If the Ddogers would really take him and his salary I would be THRILLED if the Brewers could get out from under that contract. 

That said, yeah, Yelich is probably untradeable unless the Brewers throw in money or take back another albatross deal. 

Yelich has a full no-trade clause....

Not to mention he's their best hitter right now in a lineup that is short of good hitters.

 

[brewers888]

If the Dodgers are willing to pay the high price that Burnes shuld command the Brewers would be foolish not to do it. He is 100% gone after 24 so move him now. As for Adames we should move him if we can get a big return but with how his season has gone I would be shocked if the Dodgers or anyone else offered a bounty.  

[umphrey]

Of our upcoming FAs Adames is the one I would really try to sign. He’s starting to look affordable and the SS position could get ugly without him. 

[KeithStone53151]

I suspect...based on little else besides tin foil hat stuff...that part of the dodgers reasons for acquiring a fair amount of our arms the last few years is trying to figure out what we're doing with our pitching lab. We are one of the top teams at taking guys completely off everyone's radar and turning them into effective relievers. Not to mention we've been developing pretty darn good starting pitching as well. We're clearly doing a lot right in pitcher development, and the Dodgers have plucked too many guys specifically from us for it to be a coincidence

[brewcrewdue80]

4 hours ago, umphrey said:

Of our upcoming FAs Adames is the one I would really try to sign. He’s starting to look affordable and the SS position could get ugly without him. 

What do you mean ugly without him?  Turang is a defensive wizard.  If you're speaking about the bats, well he is a rookie and the up the middle defense over bat is standard albeit less these days.  Black's home would be 2b. 

I'd trade Adames asap if his month continues like it's started.  Superb sell high after the extreme sell low after May/June. 

We'd probably do well taking Emmet Sheehan who we can use right away as a starter, say if we trade others away(like Miley or Teheran)   And going down the list if SS is a concern, Joendry Vargas was the Dodgers international signing this year off to a great start that wouldn't surprise me seeing him top 100 come next season if he remains a Dodger with the bias. Don't know if he'd be allowed in a trade having been signed this year.  Could they do a pbtnl and complete the trade after the season?

[StearnsFTW]

I personally have no interest in trading any of those guys right now.

 

Offseason?  Sure, but not now.  In fact, I fully expect Adames and Burnes to be traded this off season.  I'd put it at about a 95% chance in both cases barring injury.  I have zero interest in an extension with either.

 

And I'm just fine keeping Yelich.  Not worth what it would cost to move him.  Also, he's easily our best position player.

[wibadgers23]

18 minutes ago, StearnsFTW said:

And I'm just fine keeping Yelich.  Not worth what it would cost to move him.  Also, he's easily our best position player.

Agreed. Yelich is the least of our concerns right now. Figuring out what to do with Burnes, Adames and Woodruff and when to trade them is going to be the big decision this organization is going to have to make over the next year or so.

[owbc]

34 minutes ago, StearnsFTW said:

I personally have no interest in trading any of those guys right now.

 

Offseason?  Sure, but not now.  In fact, I fully expect Adames and Burnes to be traded this off season.  I'd put it at about a 95% chance in both cases barring injury.  I have zero interest in an extension with either.

 

And I'm just fine keeping Yelich.  Not worth what it would cost to move him.  Also, he's easily our best position player.

Agreed, I think we should be buyers at the deadline and pick up a mid-tier bat. Although that will be tricky with 20 or so teams in contention and only a handful of true sellers. 

[umphrey]

58 minutes ago, brewcrewdue80 said:

What do you mean ugly without him?  Turang is a defensive wizard.  If you're speaking about the bats, well he is a rookie and the up the middle defense over bat is standard albeit less these days.  Black's home would be 2b. 

I'd trade Adames asap if his month continues like it's started.  Superb sell high after the extreme sell low after May/June. 

We'd probably do well taking Emmet Sheehan who we can use right away as a starter, say if we trade others away(like Miley or Teheran)   And going down the list if SS is a concern, Joendry Vargas was the Dodgers international signing this year off to a great start that wouldn't surprise me seeing him top 100 come next season if he remains a Dodger with the bias. Don't know if he'd be allowed in a trade having been signed this year.  Could they do a pbtnl and complete the trade after the season?

I was never a huge fan of Turang’s bat as a prospect and he just got sent down to AAA because of his 56 wRC+.  I don’t know how anyone can feel good about plugging him in as the every day starter right now, or at any point until he shows some better hitting. 

[owbc]

18 minutes ago, umphrey said:

I was never a huge fan of Turang’s bat as a prospect and he just got sent down to AAA because of his 56 wRC+.  I don’t know how anyone can feel good about plugging him in as the every day starter right now, or at any point until he shows some better hitting. 

His defense is so good that we can probably live with a 75 wRC+ from Turang. 

[brewcrewdue80]

His AAA stats last season was 772OPS and in the 15games he was sent down put up 928OPS.  Minors career sits at .363 OB.  Adames has a career .319OB  763 OPS.   Now don't expect Turang to carry that OPS or OB, but putting up .335 OB as realistic projection would make his bat valuable at SS with that defense.  Bump the slg to just 365 and 700 OPS will create value at the SS position.  He's just 23 all of this season. so still approaching his prime as Adames reached just last year.

[KeithStone53151]

The Dodgers acquire Tyson Miller, they are really something with coming after every one of our arms.

[brewmann04]

You can figure mMiller be lights out in the lA pen 

[jerichoholicninja]

The Dodgers have a never ending stream of pitching prospects they keep bringing up. I don't know what they could possibly learn from us.

[Jenkins5]

I think it is best to ride this season out and stick out the current roster. Maybe if you find a value trade where you aren't giving up any big prospects, that'd be okay. Realistically we are in a position where we aren't true contenders with our awful offense (ranking in bottom 5-10 in basically every category in league) but we could still sneak into playoffs. Ride it out and in off season decide direction you want to take the team. I think we are closer to needing a rebuild then we are from being a true contender. As Stearns showed, a rebuild doesn't need to be long if you trade for right pieces. Stock up an elite system and can flip them again for elite younger talent when the team is ready to compete again. 

[True Blue Brew Crew]

18 hours ago, Jenkins5 said:

I think it is best to ride this season out and stick out the current roster. Maybe if you find a value trade where you aren't giving up any big prospects, that'd be okay. Realistically we are in a position where we aren't true contenders with our awful offense (ranking in bottom 5-10 in basically every category in league) but we could still sneak into playoffs. Ride it out and in off season decide direction you want to take the team. I think we are closer to needing a rebuild then we are from being a true contender. As Stearns showed, a rebuild doesn't need to be long if you trade for right pieces. Stock up an elite system and can flip them again for elite younger talent when the team is ready to compete again. 

This is where I'm at as well. It would realistically take 3-4 new bats in the lineup to make much difference with this offense. Remember, since 2019 this is an offense that has averaged 1 run per game vs playoff pitching where you get team's top 3 starters and the best of their bullpen. As the Padres have shown, there's no guarantee that the star bat will even show up in October. Meanwhile the Braves have shown that the scrapheap bat can play like an MVP in October. Potential difference making older bats in the last year of their contracts can be acquired straight up for prospects in the 20-30 range of your system. That's where the Brewers should be operating in this deadline season. It could even be a current struggling Brewer who gets hot down the stretch or in the playoffs.

Perhaps even more significant is the fact that the available group of bats this deadline aren't of superstar calibur. I wouldn't think of touching anyone in the top 10 of the Brewers system to add to the current group. The time to do that was when the Brewers had more controllable years left with Woodruff and Burnes. Now it's time keep the next wave together while taking some shots at fortifying the current club with prospect capital among those who don't project to be core pieces going forward. Think acquiring the Eduardo Escobars instead of the Manny Machados.

 

[Brewcrew82]

3 hours ago, True Blue Brew Crew said:

This is where I'm at as well. It would realistically take 3-4 new bats in the lineup to make much difference with this offense. Remember, since 2019 this is an offense that has averaged 1 run per game vs playoff pitching where you get team's top 3 starters and the best of their bullpen. As the Padres have shown, there's no guarantee that the star bat will even show up in October. Meanwhile the Braves have shown that the scrapheap bat can play like an MVP in October. Potential difference making older bats in the last year of their contracts can be acquired straight up for prospects in the 20-30 range of your system. That's where the Brewers should be operating in this deadline season. It could even be a current struggling Brewer who gets hot down the stretch or in the playoffs.

Perhaps even more significant is the fact that the available group of bats this deadline aren't of superstar calibur. I wouldn't think of touching anyone in the top 10 of the Brewers system to add to the current group. The time to do that was when the Brewers had more controllable years left with Woodruff and Burnes. Now it's time keep the next wave together while taking some shots at fortifying the current club with prospect capital among those who don't project to be core pieces going forward. Think acquiring the Eduardo Escobars instead of the Manny Machados.

 

Disagree somewhat. As the Phillies, Braves, etc. have shown recently, anything is possible once you get into the dance. I do think there are “untouchables” in our system (Chourio, Misiorowski, etc.) that I wouldn’t even discuss unless for a controllable star. But if there’s decent value out there for someone who can improve the club in the here and now and would cost you a Black, for example, I would do it. I think we absolutely need to take advantage of potential opportunities improve the offense at the deadline, as you only get so many chances to win a division and prospects flame out all the time.