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I like the idea of a Tyler Black (plus more) for Isaac Paredes trade in the offseason. The Ray's will likely get rid of Arozerena this offseason and have a LF spot for Black. They will have Camenerio at 3B and Williams for SS. Paredes fits into 3B with Ortiz/Turang at SS/2B and hits fits perfectly into the cleanup spot with 3 years of control.

 

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It is probably another year where the Brewers are rumored to be interested in Joc Pederson just saying.  He is having a really good year with the Dbacks though he is mostly a DH now. 

I would put Tyler O'Neill as another possibility but he is always injured and is currently on and off the IL nearly every month. 

I have mentioned Kikuchi before and I still think he would be a solid target if Toronto makes him available which they should.

Another Dback that I am not really fond of is Christian Walker who maybe available if the Dbacks continue to flounder. 

I have mentioned Alonso before.  If the Brewers get aggressive I think they could get him early before anyone else gets on him.  I would do a Frelick, Bauers and a minor prospect for him or something like Brown/Lara, Bauers and a lower end prospect.  I think Alonso would allow the Brewers to put Adames at 5 and then Hoskins at 6.  Turang, Contreras, Yelich, Alonso, Adames and then Hoskins would be a really good 1-6.  You could even substitute Ortiz in for Turang. 

 

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2 hours ago, nate82 said:

It is probably another year where the Brewers are rumored to be interested in Joc Pederson just saying.  He is having a really good year with the Dbacks though he is mostly a DH now. 

I would put Tyler O'Neill as another possibility but he is always injured and is currently on and off the IL nearly every month. 

I have mentioned Kikuchi before and I still think he would be a solid target if Toronto makes him available which they should.

Another Dback that I am not really fond of is Christian Walker who maybe available if the Dbacks continue to flounder. 

I have mentioned Alonso before.  If the Brewers get aggressive I think they could get him early before anyone else gets on him.  I would do a Frelick, Bauers and a minor prospect for him or something like Brown/Lara, Bauers and a lower end prospect.  I think Alonso would allow the Brewers to put Adames at 5 and then Hoskins at 6.  Turang, Contreras, Yelich, Alonso, Adames and then Hoskins would be a really good 1-6.  You could even substitute Ortiz in for Turang. 

I don't see the Brewers even looking at Alonso. He's making over $20M and is a rental with no hope to re-sign. Plus losing any players just isn't worth it considering they already are paying Hoskins to play 1B and Murphy likes using Contreras and sometimes Yelich as a DH. 

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12 minutes ago, wntrtxn21 said:

I don't see the Brewers even looking at Alonso. He's making over $20M and is a rental with no hope to re-sign. Plus losing any players just isn't worth it considering they already are paying Hoskins to play 1B and Murphy likes using Contreras and sometimes Yelich as a DH. 

Not sure what resigning anyone the Brewers trade for even matters.  Hoskins is a horrible 1B and probably will go in the IL again at some point this season.  Hoskins is basically the DH for the Brewers when Yelich or Contreras don't need a day off.  Alonso is also a far better 1B than Hoskins is right now and you don't have the injury concern with Alonso like you have with Hoskins.  Hoskins is a DH not a 1B.

The money is not a problem.  Mark A has said he would increase the payroll if needed in the past.  So I don't see that as being a problem.

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1 hour ago, nate82 said:

Not sure what resigning anyone the Brewers trade for even matters.  Hoskins is a horrible 1B and probably will go in the IL again at some point this season.  Hoskins is basically the DH for the Brewers when Yelich or Contreras don't need a day off.  Alonso is also a far better 1B than Hoskins is right now and you don't have the injury concern with Alonso like you have with Hoskins.  Hoskins is a DH not a 1B.

The money is not a problem.  Mark A has said he would increase the payroll if needed in the past.  So I don't see that as being a problem.

Alonso is a terrible 1st baseman. (-.7 WAR defensively so far this season and negative every season)

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12 minutes ago, wallus said:

Alonso is a terrible 1st baseman. (-.7 WAR defensively so far this season and negative every season)

Same with Hoskins but he is much worse. 

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1 hour ago, wallus said:

According to what metric?

-72.3 career total Def for Hoskins and -65.2 for Alonso.  Both suck but Hoskins sucks more.

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1 minute ago, nate82 said:

-72.3 career total Def for Hoskins and -65.2 for Alonso.  Both suck but Hoskins sucks more.

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Saying Alonso is "far better" is a stretch. They both are bad and should be DHs.

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5 minutes ago, wallus said:

Saying Alonso is "far better" is a stretch. They both are bad and should be DHs.

I put Alonso as far better as I believe he will be able to stay healthy and you know actually play 1B unlike Hoskins.  Health to me gives Alonso a notch above Hoskins thus being far better. 

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3 minutes ago, nate82 said:

I put Alonso as far better as I believe he will be able to stay healthy and you know actually play 1B unlike Hoskins.  Health to me gives Alonso a notch above Hoskins thus being far better. 

Neither are quality 1st baseman so bringing up one being marginally better defensively is faint praise. (health concerns aside) Alonso is forced to play 1st because they signed JD Martinez. It's odd that Stearns signed Martinez as he always seemed to value defense.

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5 hours ago, wallus said:

It's odd that Stearns signed Martinez as he always seemed to value defense

I wonder if his front office wasn't worried about defense per se, but rather tried to answer the question, "what is this roster's path to victory?" And made decisions that support that perceived path. Perhaps he felt the Mets were already poor defensively (I dont even know that they are, but I think they are bad defensively), so they may as well try to score as many runs as possible, as a moderate upgrade at 1B wasn't going to do much to improve the defense.

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As far as Marlins starters Brewerfan focused on Cabrera over the off season and Lazardo now currently , but what about Trevor Rogers as a buy low type?   Could get him cheaper than a guy like Fedde probably and could really do well in our scenery.   Thoughts?

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7 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

As far as Marlins starters Brewerfan focused on Cabrera over the off season and Lazardo now currently , but what about Trevor Rogers as a buy low type?   Could get him cheaper than a guy like Fedde probably and could really do well in our scenery.   Thoughts?

You are not going to get Rogers for cheaper than Fedde. 

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No to Rogers, Cabrera long term is fine but would do nothing or us this year unless AAA figures his command out fast. Ryan Weathers is probably the best Marlins option after Luzardo struggled again.

I wouldn't go for Alonso, Walker is interesting but not sure any big name 1B really moves the needle. To be honest I would be more interested in Justin Turner. He is a decent 1B, can play 2B or 3B and DH. He isn't having a great year but has been clutch. I would guess the Jays would eat most of the salary and it would cost a small prospect return. I get Turner doesn't make a ton of sense either but the clutch bat, leadership, better versatility, and lower prospect return makes him a better fit.

What about Tyler Anderson as a pitching option from the Angels. He was solid until last year, bad in 2023 and has been one of the best this year. He has 1 more decent priced year of control as well.

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2 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

What about Tyler Anderson as a pitching option from the Angels. He was solid until last year but has been one of the best this year. He has 1 more decent priced year of control.

Check out Anderson's advanced stats.  His ERA is a mirage. 

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4 minutes ago, nate82 said:

Check out Anderson's advanced stats.  His ERA is a mirage. 

Wow, yeah 4.67 fip, 2.37 era. That is crazy. Reid Detmers might be a better option and his era is over 6.

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I am starting to think we really need a cleanup hitter more than a starter. Granted we don't have a gapping hole in the field. 

I think JD Martinez might be the best option to provide some run production. We could probably bundle him and Severino and give them like some off Stearns favorites. 

JD and Severino for Weimer, Hoby, Ashby, and a young MI (Arienamo/Guartille) They would get two guys who could help help out next year and Ashby would be a salary offset but Stearns might be on of the only guys who still see 2021/22 Ashby.

 

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The Brewers should probably shop for a rental right fielder. Then if/when Garrett Mitchell ever gets healthy he could be in a Platoon with Perkins in CF, they could ship Frelick out to the minor leagues where he belongs and Chourio continues to get seasoning as an 5th outfielder/pinch hitter/pinch runner etc 

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I think a reunion with Mark Canha could make sense as a OF/1B/DH, he still hits lefties extremely well so could offset some of the weakness we have right now putting Perkins/Frelick/Mitchell/Bauers in the batting order against LHP.

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I am ready to go big.

Crochet and Kopech for Carlos Rodriguez, Weimer/Mitchell, Lara, and PTBNL (depending on Crochet innings)  

Braxton Garrett for Weimer/Mitchell, Wichrowski, Arienamo, and Payamps

Peguero, Mark Manfredi, and Juan Baez for Christian Walker

Trade Ross, Bauers, Hoby, and others on border of roster for whatever we can.

Walker lengthens our lineup by adding a legit cleanup hitter and improves 1st defensively. Peralta, Crochet, Garrett, Rea, Myers would be a formidable rotation that can last a few years. Devin, Megill, Kopech, Hudson, Koenig, Paredes, Wilson, Misi/other make a dominant bullpen that can cover innings in the playoffs. We lose some really nice prospects but don't lose anything that can't be replaced or we have other options. We could also trade guys like Devin and Kopech in the offseason to offset the prospect loss.

 

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11 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

I am ready to go big.

Crochet and Kopech for Carlos Rodriguez, Weimer/Mitchell, Lara, and PTBNL (depending on Crochet innings)  

Braxton Garrett for Weimer/Mitchell, Wichrowski, Arienamo, and Payamps

Peguero, Mark Manfredi, and Juan Baez for Christian Walker

Trade Ross, Bauers, Hoby, and others on border of roster for whatever we can.

Walker lengthens our lineup by adding a legit cleanup hitter and improves 1st defensively. Peralta, Crochet, Garrett, Rea, Myers would be a formidable rotation that can last a few years. Devin, Megill, Kopech, Hudson, Koenig, Paredes, Wilson, Misi/other make a dominant bullpen that can cover innings in the playoffs. We lose some really nice prospects but don't lose anything that can't be replaced or we have other options. We could also trade guys like Devin and Kopech in the offseason to offset the prospect loss.

 

I don't think the guys you mention (Rodriguez, Weimer/Mitchell, Lara, Wichrowski) have that kind of value. 

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2 hours ago, Matt said:

I don't think the guys you mention (Rodriguez, Weimer/Mitchell, Lara, Wichrowski) have that kind of value. 

Just using the Dylan Cease trade as a measuring stick they got 5,7,8 and a reliever. We maybe need to upgrade the Mitchell/Weimer part. However I was thinking the PTBNL later part would range from like Boeve/Henderson on the high end to like a lotto type prospect on the low end if Crochet get hurt. 

 

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4 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

Just using the Dylan Cease trade as a measuring stick they got 5,7,8 and a reliever. We maybe need to upgrade the Mitchell/Weimer part. However I was thinking the PTBNL later part would range from like Boeve/Henderson on the high end to like a lotto type prospect on the low end if Crochet get hurt. 

 

Boeve or Henderson would be tough to swallow, but yea, that's more in line of what I would expect it to take for the Brewers to add a front line pitcher. 

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