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On 4/28/2024 at 4:20 PM, Jopal78 said:

Under .200 BA, under .600 OPS, and striking out just a clip shy of 33%. Clearly not quite ready for prime time did the Brewers have better options to replace him on the roster?

What’s easier on his psyche:  a demotion to AAA or letting his numbers crater at the majors and he moves into more of a platoon role 

What's easier on his psyche?  Letting his talent play at the MLB level, allowing him the room to make adjustments at the MLB level, and watching him turn into the team's best hitter before he's old enough to legally order a beer just 3 months after this take got permanently buried in a glacier.

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15 minutes ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

What's easier on his psyche?  Letting his talent play at the MLB level, allowing him the room to make adjustments at the MLB level, and watching him turn into the team's best hitter before he's old enough to legally order a beer just 3 months after this take got permanently buried in a glacier.

Nice one. Easy to brag in hindsight isn’t it? Though your efforts would be better spent contributing something to actually stir discussion/thought..

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Every person is different. I'm guessing the Brewers felt that Chourio would benefit from being on the major league roster - and it wouldn't affect his development. But again - everyone is different. 

Just happy to see him blossom as a player. Lots of great stuff to come.

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24 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Nice one. Easy to brag in hindsight isn’t it? Though your efforts would be better spent contributing something to actually stir discussion/thought..

I mean if you had followed Chourio at all during his ascent through the minors it was pretty easy to see something like this happening. So, you kind of set yourself up for that. There's something that has never been in doubt whatsoever with Chourio and that is his psyche/confidence. 

Even when he was struggling, he wasn't overwhelmed to the extent that a Jackson Holliday, for example, was. 

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31 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I mean if you had followed Chourio at all during his ascent through the minors it was pretty easy to see something like this happening. So, you kind of set yourself up for that. There's something that has never been in doubt whatsoever with Chourio and that is his psyche/confidence. 

Even when he was struggling, he wasn't overwhelmed to the extent that a Jackson Holliday, for example, was. 

I think everyone on the forum should be able to start a thread without needing to concern themselves with someone coming in 3 months to make some mega lame condescending reply that is basically just to troll someone. 

And people wonder why the forum is dead and people don't bother posting on here. Jopal is an active member who gives good discussion and he gets to open up his notifications to someone just being an arse for fun.

Soon enough @Brock Beauchamp is going to have to make bots to post on the forum so the Fear the Chorizo's of the world can still have someone to be dick's too. 

 

But just to add:

On the year he was striking out 36% of the time up to that point. In the 11 games prior to his post he was striking out 47% of the time and .111 BA. He had just double and a homer for XBH's in those 11 games. On the year he had only two doubles in what was almost the entire month of April. Was he as bad as Holliday? No....but Chourio was absolutely horrendous in April. So, I really don't think pondering a demotion was a crazy thought. Even if in the minors he often times started slow. MLB is very different than any minor league level. 

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24 minutes ago, MrTPlush said:

I think everyone on the forum should be able to start a thread without needing to concern themselves with someone coming in 3 months to make some mega lame condescending reply that is basically just to troll someone. 

And people wonder why the forum is dead and people don't bother posting on here. Jopal is an active member who gives good discussion and he gets to open up his notifications to someone just being an arse for fun.

Soon enough @Brock Beauchamp is going to have to make bots to post on the forum so the Fear the Chorizo's of the world can still have someone to be dick's too. 

Just because you post doesn't mean you insulate yourselves from all future criticism of your posts like there's a statute of limitations or something.  It's a free discussion board, which goes both ways. He had a right to make a post that he very well knew (or at least should have known) would almost certainly not age well. And others have a right to look back on that and point that out. 

I'm not sure I would have done it in quite the same fashion Chorizo did, but Jopal did set himself up here. There was pushback even when he made his original post. I'll stand by all my takes and take the criticism when deserved. 

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I think it is alright for people to discuss the merits of whether it would be worthwhile to send a struggling 20-year old to the minors.

It is also fine to be happy when the 20-year old dramatically improves. 🙂

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5 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Just because you post doesn't mean you insulate yourselves from all future criticism of your posts like there's a statute of limitations or something.  It's a free discussion board, which goes both ways. He had a right to make a post that he very well knew (or at least should have known) would almost certainly not age well. And others have a right to look back on that and point that out. 

I'm not sure I would have done it in quite the same fashion Chorizo did, but Jopal did set himself up here. There was pushback even when he made his original post. 

He didn't set himself up, he made a post that at the time had merit. 

Pretty lame to drudge it up and criticize him for it now.

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6 minutes ago, TURBO said:

He didn't set himself up, he made a post that at the time had merit. 

Pretty lame to drudge it up and criticize him for it now.

"Clearly not ready for prime time." That's setting yourself up. 

Granted, he's not the only one in the fanbase who had this take early on, but there were also quite a few more simultaneously urging patience with a 20 year old player. 

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4 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Just because you post doesn't mean you insulate yourselves from all future criticism of your posts like there's a statute of limitations or something.  It's a free discussion board, which goes both ways. He had a right to make a post that he very well knew (or at least should have known) would almost certainly not age well. And others have a right to look back on that and point that out. 

I'm not sure I would have done it in quite the same fashion Chorizo did, but Jopal did set himself up here. There was pushback even when he made his original post. 

If you are going to make a lame 'I told you so' post, at least being a part of the original discussion might be useful. Coming into the thread in retrospect to act smart is really unnecessary. 

The forum is a free discussion board, but it isn't a mosh pit and last I checked has rules. Which FTC is breaking at least a few of them. But thus, respecting other people and trying to be a positive member of the forum should be something you strive to do regardless. I don't really get trying to defend what FTC did. There is nothing wrong with looking back on things and pointing out how it was wrong. For instance, pointing out how Chourio did this in the minors so it might have been predictable is a completely valid way to go about it. Mocking a forum member for enjoyment is just odd and weird. FTC can have good discussion, like many others, it is a shame they insist on being negative towards others' opinions to make themselves feel better while doing it though. 

But thus, that is all I will say on the subject. I am sure the moderators can sort it out. 

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Sheesh. The intent wasn't to call anyone out. I looked for a Chourio thread and this is the first one I found.  The kid was really struggling, adapted, and is now doing really well. Good for him. I'll make a new thread which, in retrospect, is obviously what I should have done in the first place.

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