Garrett Crochet

[nate82]

20 minutes ago, TURBO said:

No mention of the Brewers here in the latest info...  Are we already out?

The Brewers were never “in”.  And by that they were never seriously in on Crochet.  They had some discussions but that was it.  The Mets, Yankees, Phillies and Red Sox have been far more aggressive in a trade for Crochet.  My money is on the Mets or the Red Sox getting Crochet.

[TURBO]

2 minutes ago, nate82 said:

The Brewers were never “in”.  And by that they were never seriously in on Crochet.  They had some discussions but that was it.  The Mets, Yankees, Phillies and Red Sox have been far more aggressive in a trade for Crochet.  My money is on the Mets or the Red Sox getting Crochet.

Yeah, we were just kicking the tires, as usual, but with no real intention on getting anything done.

[BrewerFan]

19 hours ago, TURBO said:

Yeah, we were just kicking the tires, as usual, but with no real intention on getting anything done.

Maybe...or maybe this is just how the Brewers do things. How they've always done things. Seldom are any big moves the Brewers make telegraphed. Even when they trade players away, it's surprising but not surprising.

They made moves last year that made it appear they were going to try and compete and then traded Burnes when we assumed he'd be around. Hader was out of nowhere, Cain, Yelich. 

Any one player is going to be a longshot. I don't think being left out of one article means we're in or not. 

 

As for your proposal, I really like Lara and that's 4 good prospects, but for a guy who's open to an extension? Say 3/60 with a couple TO? I'd do that and I'd add a little if you could get an agreement done.

So take the ~2.9M he's projected to make, 7M for next year and then add the 3 years. 5/70, 10M SB to entice him(which would probably make it harder but worth it). For that, I'd be on board.

But we don't even know if they're actually in it or not.

[NOMAAM]

Depends if it’s quantity over quality sure.  If some of the packages proposed.  Brewers should pass.

[nate82]

4 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

But we don't even know if they're actually in it or not.

From some friends I know in MLB front offices I have been told the Brewers are not in on Crochet, but take this with a grain of salt they could be wrong.  They  have checked in on him but that is as far as the discussions went.  From what I have been told the price on Crochet has actually gone up since the trade deadline.  The White Sox want more than what they were asking for during the deadline earlier this year and it looks like they may just get what they want as there are three desperate teams wanting to add pitching without adding to their payroll majorly in the Red Sox, Yankees and Phillies with the Mets being interested if Burnes doesn't sign with them. 

On 12/10/2024 at 5:26 AM, BrewerFan said:

I don't think you can take Black, throw in 5 guys who are not really prospects and make the deal, but why wouldn't they have interest in a top 100 prospect who has...virtually no service time?

 

Wilken value is going to be in his power and ability to get on base.

They're devoid of talent. I'd guess they'd willing to take whatever the best prospects rather than filling holes in their lineup. This is a team that lost...101 and 121 games the last two years.

Black doesn't really have a position in MLB and he is more of a DH.  The DH position in MLB front offices has been devalued a lot.  So take Black's value and cut it in basically half.  This is why the White Sox wouldn't want Black regardless if he is a top 100 prospect.  It is not filling holes in their MLB roster it is filling holes in their prospect list.  The White Sox are devoid of talent at the MLB level but not at the minor league level at least pitching wise.  They have two really good pitching prospects that they are probably looking to build around and Black just doesn't fill that void in terms of a positional player. 

Wilken had a horrible year after getting hit in the face.  He continued that in the AFL which was the Brewers trying to get him more comfortable at the plate.  The getting hit in the face has made him a bit more timid at the plate causing him to be late in recognizing pitches out of the pitchers hand.  The Brewers wanted him to get more comfortable at the plate and seeing the ball better.  I am not sure if it worked or not.  Other teams have this same viewpoint on Wilken now.  I doubt Wilken even makes the top 150 prospects from what I have heard from some scouts they don't see him as an everyday MLB player since the injury occurred.  His on base ability has taken the biggest hit since the injury occurred and you could see some signs of this before the injury. 

 

[markedman5]

 

[Lloyd330]

#25 and #54 top 100 prospect

A INF that probably a bench guy and a guy that lead the minors in K rate

Brewers weren't touching that - Would have been Quero, Pratt, someone like Areinamo and Carlos Rodriguez

 

 

[NOMAAM]

14 minutes ago, markedman5 said:

 

That’s a big offer.  I’m sure extension to follow.

[nate82]

Like I said the Brewers were out a while ago.  The price tag was way too high for Crochet.

[Madhawk23]

Yeah, I'm really glad that we didn't get too serious into talks with the Sox for Crochet.  WAY too big of a prospect price to pay for two years of a pitcher that only has one year of SP track record.  No thanks.  

[TURBO]

The real question is this:

Is he keeper worthy in a keeper fantasy baseball league?  :)

[brewmann04]

so happy the crew lost out

[BrewerFan]

14 hours ago, nate82 said:

From some friends I know in MLB front offices I have been told the Brewers are not in on Crochet, but take this with a grain of salt they could be wrong. 

Oh...well, they were right. Some of these posts are stating things as facts because we just don't think it will happen, but if you actually have a reason, I will keep that in mind. And clearly you were right.

Looking at what they got, the Brewers probably got out real quick.

I actually get the price going up since the deadline. I didn't think he had all that much use to us at the deadline. Now, he's thrown a full year and a team can limit his innings, but he's pretty much going to be able to handle a full workload next year.

14 hours ago, nate82 said:

Black doesn't really have a position in MLB and he is more of a DH.  The DH position in MLB front offices has been devalued a lot.

That's with the Brewers. He's athletic and if he can hit, I think teams will want him. I think he's got positions, they're just positions the Brewers have depth and talent at. He's athletic. You can play in the OF if you're athletic(especially if you were happy running Eloy out there). 1B I'd imagine. If his skills at 2B/3B are below par for the Brewers or even for a team like the Sox, I'd think he could play 1B. He's young, athletic and has hit at every level. There's still value there. 

14 hours ago, nate82 said:

Wilken had a horrible year after getting hit in the face.  He continued that in the AFL which was the Brewers trying to get him more comfortable at the plate. 

Yeah, I did say I don't think he's got much value. Maybe some as a 1st rd pick, but not much.

[DR28]

The Brewers were serious suitors for Garrett Crochet before the White Sox traded him to the Red Sox and it would have hurt in terms of prospect capital. But Boston won out.

— Adam McCalvy (@AdamMcCalvy) December 11, 2024

[Playing Catch]

Hmmm... that's interesting to me. And that's from McCalvy, the Brewers guy, not from some rumor-mongering Yankees beat writer.

I, too, am glad they didn't get Crochet. I just am fearful he's a flash-in-the-pan. I would much prefer seeing them trade prospects for a hitter.