2025 NFL Discussion

[adambr2]

I am pretty convinced that the Lions are awfully good. They had a stinker against us in Week 1 which I put about as much stock in as most Week 1 games when teams are still finding their identity.

Getting Hutch back healthy was by far their biggest offseason addition. He is a Parsons level game changer. Goff can run hot and cold but they have an offense with a lot of weapons.

I think we are pretty good too, but 1 second not ticking off the clock in OT in Dallas is the only thing separating us being the 7 instead of the 1 right now.

So I’d agree it’s probably a 2 horse race, still not sold on the Bears. Although it’s not outside the realm of possibility for us to finish anywhere from 1st to 3rd in the North.

I think we can be better, though. I’m not sure why, but there’s just been some elements missing from what we can be both on offense and defense, IMO, in a way that’s just hard to explain.

[homer]

2 hours ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Annihilated Tampa in the trenches. That was a better game than we've had since we beat them.

Is Tampa good? Theyve won a lot of one score games.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

27 minutes ago, homer said:

Is Tampa good? Theyve won a lot of one score games.

Fortunately nobody has been that good.

[Fear The Chorizo]

3 hours ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Fortunately nobody has been that good.

I think the days are long gone for when juggernaut teams just destroy everyone right from Week 1 in the NFL and ride that wave all season long - and a big part of that is how the game is played and 17 weeks of the season.

 

Now it's about how you are playing in December and health - theres a blob of about 10 teams that could either peak at the right time or wind up 10-7 and get bounced in the 1st playoff round.  I'd say the Packers are in the upper echelon of that blob and have plenty of room for improvement.  They could also fall on their face instead of improve, too.  

 

I dont like anyone's odds beating the Lions at Ford field in the playoffs - but I'd say the same thing about the Packers, Tampa, San Fran, or a focused Philly team at home in January right now, too.

[HarryDoyle]

Even though Baltimore held the Bears to a field goal, it's been amazing to see the complete collapse of their defense that has been their identity their entire existence. 

[homer]

Ankles are not supposed to bend like Cam Skattebo's ankle just did 

[HarryDoyle]

10 minutes ago, homer said:

Ankles are not supposed to bend like Cam Skattebo's ankle just did 

A hip drop tackle as well that wasn't called.

[nate82]

I am not sure how the Panthers are 4-3.  Their team screams 2-5 or 1-6.  

[HarryDoyle]

Falcons getting lit up by the Dolphins?

[young guns]

35 minutes ago, nate82 said:

I am not sure how the Panthers are 4-3.  Their team screams 2-5 or 1-6.  

Their wins have come against bad teams in the jets and dolphins, a mediocre Dallas team, and after today what looks like a bipolar Falcons team.  So not really unreasonable if they are just one of the top bad teams.

[HarryDoyle]

2 hours ago, HarryDoyle said:

Even though Baltimore held the Bears to a field goal, it's been amazing to see the complete collapse of their defense that has been their identity their entire existence. 

But the Bears still suck.

[homer]

5 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

But the Bears still suck.

that was just pathetic clock management

 

[endaround]

Down 10 with 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter and you kick a FG on 4th and 5 from the Baltimore 30 screams that you don't trust your quarterback.

[HarryDoyle]

And you're telling me MLF couldn't attack this Cowboys D for six?

[yourout]

Sean Payton is a douche nozzle of the highest order but he gets his teams to win at a fairly high clip

[HarryDoyle]

21 minutes ago, yourout said:

Sean Payton is a douche nozzle of the highest order but he gets his teams to win at a fairly high clip

And yet doesn't have the resume Mike McCarthy has.

[HarryDoyle]

Not a very compelling day of football this week. Every game but one had a double digit margin of victory with seven of those games being of at least 18 points.

[LouisEly]

Carson Wentz out for the season with shoulder surgery. 

[homer]

12 hours ago, LouisEly said:

Carson Wentz out for the season with shoulder surgery. 

Their third string guy must be seven different kinds of awful because Wentz was clearly running on fumes last week.

[OldHeidelberg]

JJ McCarthy gets his second shot and has to go into Detroit where they will have to score a lot. It's pretty close to must win for them and it will be tough. It's sink or swim now for JJ, I think I can see now why they anguished about a Rodgers decision for a few days. 

[Brian]

On 10/12/2025 at 2:28 PM, Fear The Chorizo said:

How is McDaniel still an NFL head coach?  Also, how is Tua still an NFL qb?

Beause McDaniel went to College @ Yale University and is the smartest man on paper in the room.  🤣 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Jaire is a wash out. Baltimore has gotten less than nothing out of him, and he is likely getting cut. That could be it for him.

[CheezWizHed]

On 10/23/2025 at 11:08 PM, Fear The Chorizo said:

I believe that was when Robbie Gould was automatic inside 45 yards, but couldn't kick anything close to 50

Bear FG nightmares...

On 10/28/2025 at 9:08 AM, OldHeidelberg said:

JJ McCarthy gets his second shot and has to go into Detroit where they will have to score a lot. It's pretty close to must win for them and it will be tough. It's sink or swim now for JJ, I think I can see now why they anguished about a Rodgers decision for a few days. 

Crazy to think that the Vikings had Darnold and Jones on their roster last year:

Season	Age	Team	Lg	Pos	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Succ%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	Sk%	NY/A	ANY/A	4QC	GWD	AV	Awards
Jones:
2025	28	IND	NFL	QB	8	8	7-1-0	173	243	71.2	2062	13	5.3	3	1.2	103	56.3	75	8.5	9.00	11.9	257.8	109.5	79.3	9	64	3.57	7.93	8.42	2	2

Season	Age	Team	Lg	Pos	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Succ%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	Sk%	NY/A	ANY/A	4QC	GWD	AV	Awards
Darnold:
2025	28	SEA	NFL	QB	7	7	5-2-0	131	192	68.2	1754	12	6.3	4	2.1	77	48.3	61	9.1	9.45	13.4	250.6	109.2	72.2	9	58	4.48	8.44	8.74	0	2

[OldHeidelberg]

20 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

Crazy to think that the Vikings had Darnold and Jones on their roster last year:

 

Season	Age	Team	Lg	Pos	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Succ%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	Sk%	NY/A	ANY/A	4QC	GWD	AV	Awards
Jones:
2025	28	IND	NFL	QB	8	8	7-1-0	173	243	71.2	2062	13	5.3	3	1.2	103	56.3	75	8.5	9.00	11.9	257.8	109.5	79.3	9	64	3.57	7.93	8.42	2	2

Season	Age	Team	Lg	Pos	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Succ%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	Sk%	NY/A	ANY/A	4QC	GWD	AV	Awards
Darnold:
2025	28	SEA	NFL	QB	7	7	5-2-0	131	192	68.2	1754	12	6.3	4	2.1	77	48.3	61	9.1	9.45	13.4	250.6	109.2	72.2	9	58	4.48	8.44	8.74	0	2

So, they for some reason traded a 4th and 5th rounder to trade up one spot for the 5th QB in draft, let 2 apparently legit starting QB's walk in FA, and said thanks but no thanks to another legit starter and future HOFer. All because they are sure JJ is the guy. I hope it works out for them. I feel bad for their fans. 

[homer]

On 10/28/2025 at 9:24 AM, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Jaire is a wash out. Baltimore has gotten less than nothing out of him, and he is likely getting cut. That could be it for him.

I think he's been a healthy scratch for most games this year.